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Post by Mr Nick09 on Mon Jan 28, 2019 3:26 am

so what makes you think we are muting coaches or not following their recommendation on players? i see 0 evidence of us outright not involving the coach in signings. So i dont really understand this concern.


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Post by titosantill on Mon Jan 28, 2019 3:40 am

because we have had coaches who have left and talked about what they coulda shoulda woulda done at madrid, but their requests went unanswered. i'm not going to go into detail because its something i've posted on multiple occasions. and mind you i don't respect coaches saying that once they have left, especially if they where busy playing school boy when their requests went unanswered

if lopetegui remains quiet and doesn't go into the "i wanted this or that spiel while i was at madrid", i would really have some respect for him. as i said before i've made numerous posts in detail about my point above and included links....this isn't the time to go through that again.

if come summer we do something crazy and bizarre like hire raul or guti then i'd be forced to go on that tirade again
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Post by Freeza on Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:34 am

@titosantill wrote:pop had a say, so too pat riley when he was coaching the lakers and the knicks, and phil jackson, as a matter of fact, that's why bulls dumped on phil when they felt he was getting too much shine, so after mj left , phil left , they left it in the hands of jerry krause who hired a stooge college coach that was his friend and bulls sucked thereafter. how are the suns, cavs, and bulls doing? the coaches barely have any say. phil instead of coaching hired fisher to be his yes-man, how'd that go?

obviously you can't give 100 percent to your coach, but if you want to build a team, you can't expect your coach to just be mute. you own a bakery doesn't mean you're a good baker. the coach and technical director work together to get those players who can help the squad, management can focus on getting their galacticos is all i'm saying.



Pat Riley never had power to pull off his vision for the Lakers.

Neither did Phil.

Lakers was always about having stars under Jerry Buss. If any coach wanted to change that they'd be fired. Hell Magic and Kobe have gotten coaches fired on multiple occasions.

Pop said no to being a GM and gave it to RC Buford which led to their five latest titles.

It's not a good idea to have coaches also be head of personel. They will pick transfers, draft picks etc. because of emotion. It's much better to have someone who can see players from a distance.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:40 am

@titosantill wrote:because we have had coaches who have left and talked about what they coulda shoulda woulda done at madrid, but their requests went unanswered. i'm not going to go into detail because its something i've posted on multiple occasions. and mind you i don't respect coaches saying that once they have left, especially if they where busy playing school boy when their requests went unanswered

if lopetegui remains quiet and doesn't go into the "i wanted this or that spiel while i was at madrid", i would really have some respect for him. as i said before i've made numerous posts in detail about my point above and included links....this isn't the time to go through that again.

if come summer we do something crazy and bizarre like hire raul or guti then i'd be forced to go on that tirade again
well, you have to go into details, saying we have had coaches asking for players is not enough, give examples.

Also, just because a coach feels very strongly about one player does that mean we absolutely must sign him even if it's unreasonable?

Like when Lopetegui wanted us to sign Rodrigo, was it reasonable to do as he asked and spend the 80 millions Valencia wanted. Rodrigo doesnt even have 5 goals in la liga this season.

Coaches make suggestions based on what they think their need will be. They will suggest maybe a 4th CB or a back up CF, maybe even name a target, but we are under no obligation to sign the exact player they asked for.

If the summer comes, and we are not signing an elite coach, Solari will stay in place because he is already earning credibility with the players in the squad.

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Post by titosantill on Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:58 am

@freeza , i'm not saying the coach should be doc rivers and become the tech director, there's a middle ground, the coach should work with a technical director and be able to say what he wants, he won't get it all the time, no coach does. pop has pull, he isn't just sitting there and saying give me what you got and we'll go. phill too, which is why kraus hated him and wanted that college coach. mgt can take care of the draft stuff or major stuff, but any self respecting coach wants a reasonable say. one can argue that many of the terrible franchises, in the nba feature more owners or directors just running things with no input

anyway we've exhausted this, for now, i guess its trust the process @ madrid. and we had a convincing win over the weekend . rodrigo example is an example of a coach not doing their homework. if he did want him, that only became an issue after we lost the uefa "super" cup, lope had all summer to make requests, after the "super" cup he got desperate.

its not like he came here saying he wants him, his tone in the summer was he loves the anthem and is very happy with the squad. but that's just my 2 cents on the situation
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Post by Doc on Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:09 pm

Speaking of transfers, someone tell Hala his boy Morata is dead to me.

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Post by halamadrid2 on Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:10 pm

rofl

He was dead to me ever since he called Atleti his boyhood club
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Post by The Demon of Carthage on Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:19 pm

Honestly, I forgive him. It really hasn't been easy for him. He was never a prolific goalscorer or elite (if we're being totally honest) but he had the courage to step out of the coziness at Madrid and go to uncharted territory for personal success.

Even at Atlético, I wish him all the best. The goals he scored for us during our title-winning campaign two years ago were vital to us lifting the trophy. I'll be forever grateful to him for that and I'll always consider him a son of the Bernabeu.


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Post by Thimmy on Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:49 pm

@The Demon of Carthage wrote:Honestly, I forgive him. It really hasn't been easy for him. He was never a prolific goalscorer or elite (if we're being totally honest) but he had the courage to step out of the coziness at Madrid and go to uncharted territory for personal success.

Even at Atlético, I wish him all the best. The goals he scored for us during our title-winning campaign two years ago were vital to us lifting the trophy. I'll be forever grateful to him for that and I'll always consider him a son of the Bernabeu.



I couldn't have said it better. It makes you wonder, though.. I really don't understand why he would keep pursuing a starting spot with such persistence, when evidently, he's never had the mentality to be a 90 minute player at the top level of football. Hell, he never proved through his stint at Chelsea that he's even cut out for this level of football. Can't remember the last time I witnessed a player with such a fragile self-esteem. Every time I saw him miss a great chance to score for Chelsea, his expression made it look like he had Mourinho sitting on his back.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:41 pm

apparently the players organized a team dinner, and im looking for who is missing....

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Is Bale taking the picture?

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Post by titosantill on Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:32 am

bale is at the doctor's office, probably pulled a hamstring while walking to the table. looks like a cool versace shirt benzema's rocking
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Post by Freeza on Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:41 am

I wish Benzema had that much confidence on the pitch

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Post by Doc on Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:20 am

I know Benzema's outfit is flashy but Vallejo's outfit stood out for me. It's so plain and boring that I can't help but admire it. He already plays like a teddy bear with a heart beat and now, he dresses like that wholesome guy you know at work.

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Post by sportsczy on Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:53 am

On a side note... I'm always going to be salty that a player like Zlatan changed so many clubs since 2009... yet never came to Madrid.

i mean even today I want Zlatan.

I miss the days where we had geniuses of football on Real Madrid. As great as Ronaldo is/was... he's more of machine.

I want to be inspired damn it.

Ok, my rant is over.

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Post by Clutch on Tue Jan 29, 2019 6:18 am

@Mr Nick09 wrote:apparently the players organized a team dinner, and im looking for who is missing....

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Is Bale taking the picture?
kroos bale and keylor are missing

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Post by halamadrid2 on Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:13 am

Feels like Ramos is coaching this team. Crisis meeting behind our upturn in form now organising a dinner to celebrate the upturn in form
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Post by Mamad on Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:51 am

Kroos has been shat this season. last game he was our worst player. he continues like this he will be benched by Ceballos.

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Post by halamadrid2 on Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:02 am

De Thomas balling for Rayo. Beat Alaves who haven't lost at home. 10 goals this season despite being at RM for tbe first 3 games
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Post by Thimmy on Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:41 am

@Mamad wrote:Kroos has been shat this season. last game he was our worst player. he continues like this he will be benched by Ceballos.


Really? I thought Casemiro was our worst player in the last game. Hardly did anything right, should've gotten a yellow card, looked out of depth and unnecessarily gave away possession with poor passes. Kroos has definitely not been one of our worst players since the start of the season, but I agree that he had a poor game.

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Post by Doc on Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:40 pm

Yeah, I too saw Kroos having a fine match. Casemiro was the one that really didn't handle it well but he takes long to get into gear.

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Post by Adit on Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:54 pm

I actually thought Kroos was pretty good on both ends. He dispossessed everyone who came at him and also passed the ball quickly .

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Post by Thimmy on Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:56 pm

I think Kroos was lively, but seemed to lose focus at times. He’s usually more solid in possession. He definitely didn’t stand out as one of our worst players on the night, from what I could tell.
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Post by Mamad on Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:22 pm

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This is the 10 year anniversary of signing the goat himself, the mysterious, Julien Faubert. played total of 52 minutes for us.

despite that, he is fondly remembered for falling asleep on the bench against Villarreal on one occasion.

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Post by Nivash on Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:29 pm

@Mamad wrote:Transfer Rumours | Tactics | Who to buy/sell etc - Page 9 Julien-Faubert

This is the 10 year anniversary of signing the goat himself, the mysterious, Julien Faubert. played total of 52 minutes for us.

despite that, he is fondly remembered for falling asleep on the bench against Villarreal on one occasion.


Not forgetting the time where he complained about his lack of game time, only to be reminded that he was, at the time, injured

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:11 pm

Icardi is such a spectacularly meh striker lmao. Damn glad we did not spend a time signing a scrub ass poacher

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Post by Thimmy on Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:15 pm

@Mr Nick09 wrote:Icardi is such a spectacularly meh striker lmao. Damn glad we did not spend a time signing a scrub ass poacher


What has he done now? I missed their last game because I was eating out with my girlfriend.
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