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Post by Zees on Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:45 pm

Son would be great imo, two-footed so can play on both wings and through the middle. Good on the ball, pacey, hardworking and can score all types of goals. Hazard is the better player but i think Son would suit us more, especially if Benz keeps this up.

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Post by Mamad on Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:36 am

Just looked back at some highlights from supercup game against Atletico. Ramos and Specially Varane looked as if they were dead lol. World cup did ruined them all.

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Post by Thimmy on Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:51 am

@Zees wrote:Son would be great imo, two-footed so can play on both wings and through the middle. Good on the ball, pacey, hardworking and can score all types of goals. Hazard is the better player but i think Son would suit us more, especially if Benz keeps this up.


I wouldn't mind Son, at all. He has his limitations, but he's a top, top player with very high allround quality, as well as work rate. I've been a fan of his for a few seasons now. I can't imagine us getting him, though.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:28 am

Hakimi is still a comically bad defender

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Post by vanDEEZ on Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:02 am

Yeah, everyone has been hyping him as one of the best defenders in the league, but he was probably the worst defender on the pitch. Made Vertonghen look like prime Ronaldo on the LW.

I hope this performance was a blip, and not descriptive of how he has been playing. I haven't watched much of Dortmund this season, but that's what fans are saying luckily.
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:31 am

It's not a slip, it's consistent from with what i have seen in the rare big bundi games i watched, and the games in madrid last season. He is very bad at defending, never in position and makes bad decisions.

However, his attacking potential is awesome, and this is where he is shining. he is young, maybe he will learn

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Post by The Demon of Carthage on Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:11 pm

What a shame. I have been hearing a lot of good things about him.

It's okay though, Madrid doesn't have to bring him back this summer. I would still loan him back to Dortmund next year as well, if they're interested, and see how he responds to that.

His position is pretty much covered anyway here, and he won't complain either if we don't bring him back. Maybe Dortmund will bring the best out of him like Leverkusen did with Carvajal.

Wish him all the best.

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Post by Doc on Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:57 pm

Well, it's a 2 year loan so he'll be there anyway.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:55 pm

According to EC City are offering 30 mil+ Zinchenko for Firpo and the might best us to him


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Post by vanDEEZ on Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:14 pm

Lots of rumors of us (along with Chelsea, Barca, and Bayern) going in for Jovic. Deal would probably be around 60m I believe was reported
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:45 pm

The rumour about Jovic was from Bild, but Bild is not what it used to be. Nothing in Madrid medias about him so I wouldn't get too excited

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:53 pm

As the season goes Jovic continues to score in a role where he is not an out and out striker. In this terrible CF market among the young talents in Europe he is looking quite good.


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Post by sportsczy on Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:46 pm

I have a hard time with the stats because Haller is scoring at Frankfurt too... and I remember Haller being an extremely average footballer.

Not saying Jovic isn't good... but Bundi is starting to make me feel like it's become as good defensively as Eredivisie.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:58 pm

That has never changed. Haller career arc is odd but looks like a late bloomer. Both along with rebic are scoring a lot, they do it in Europe and in Germany so I give them credit.

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Post by vanDEEZ on Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:49 pm

Jovic looks good certainly, but always gotta be skeptical of players in their "breakout" seasons.

But if it is the choice between him and Mariano, there is an obvious answer there.
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Post by sportsczy on Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:16 pm

Meanwhile, Barca get De Jong, De Ligt and Rabiot to overhaul their aging midfield.... sigh.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:54 pm

It doesn't matter who they sign as long as Messi lol, like literally who cares. And people really need to stop selling our players short.

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Post by sportsczy on Sat Feb 23, 2019 3:24 am

So we need to stop selling our old players short that take until January to get going and cause us to never have a chance at winning La Liga?

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:41 am

im saying that we have quality oung players like the squad already, and we will sign more talents moving forward. Dunno why we need to bother with what barca are doing, and they have not signed De Ligt or Rabiot by the way, just speculations lol

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Post by halamadrid2 on Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:51 am

Meh I wasn't impressed with DeJong at all when we played Ajax. He'll probably look better at Barca but meh Alena >>>

It doesn't matter who qe buy or who we have because when some old players aren't removed from the line up there's nothing we can do

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Post by The Demon of Carthage on Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:50 am

@sportsczy wrote:Meanwhile, Barca get De Jong, De Ligt and Rabiot to overhaul their aging midfield.... sigh.

I hear you, but sadly that's not the only thing that you should be bothered by if you're a Madrid fan because there's a lot of things going on.

Aside from the fact that Barça appears to be way more active and ambitious in their transfer dealings, Madrid seems to have embraced a second-tier policy where they only go after established players when they are in the last year of their contract. Now, this may look smart on paper, and in some cases it is, but there are times when you really need to move quick and hard to secure a rising talent before they get snatched by another club and you can't afford to wait until they run out their contract. Mbappé for instance is prime example of that.

If the club's new policy is to wait until their target runs out the clock to sign him, they'll be able to only sign 1 or 2 established players once every 5 years, which is not enough to compete with Barça, PSG or City who are spending heavily every year to ensure that the quality of their squads remains elite and the bulk of their roster is composed of established players in their prime -

My main concern with Madrid's new transfer policy is that it doesn't bring immediate success. The best case scenario, you get a starlet like Vini who's gorged with talent and potential, but still not ready yet to deliver at the highest level consistently throughout the season. And in the worst case scenario, you end up with a failed transfer.

This bothers me because this policy only brings success after a lengthy period of major trophy drought. You have to wait until your youngsters come of age, develop nicely and acquire enough experience to make the jump to elite territory. In other words, and this is why I'm a little agitated, Madrid doesn't seem to mind at all going a few years without picking up a single major trophy. It must be the case because they have embraced a policy that takes a lot of time to bear fruit. Now, this shouldn't be a problem when you're the only title contender in your country, but in Spain there's a relentless challenger called Barça. You simply can't afford to go down this path if you're ambitious and looking to win major titles regularly.

I have to tell you, I'm really sick and tired of seeing Barcelona winning the league almost every year. There were times when they really deserved it, especially under Guardiola. But recently, we have been gifting them the league without even trying, even when they weren't at their best.

Madrid should accept the fact that you can't assemble a team of world beaters by relying heavily on cheap transfers of youngsters and waiting for established players until they reach the last year of their contracts to move for them. Sometimes, you really have to get your hands dirty and break the bank to get the best.

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Post by titosantill on Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:15 am

i think we should postpone our grievances till the summer window. nobody knows what the club's policy will be until the season is over (despite what flo says in front of the media), i think we should give the whole "new transfer policy criticism" a rest till the summer. transfer dealings in football are not as transparent as say nba for example, the so called insiders in the football media seem to have little to no information and just speculate the same way fans do, i get the concern but i think we should save it till the summer.......if we do something crazy like sign another goalie and a couple of 15 yr olds

for now i think we should ease up on the transfer criticisms , its middle of the season, nobody really knows who flo's linked to. i mean we hear the same names, but as i said we know just as much as the so called media specialists, who hardly break news these days. i've been critical myself , quite a lot too, but i think we should just chill out till seasons end
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:20 pm

please go support barca if you like their transfer policy so much lol. this is the first season since a historic CL run, and you guys are complaining like this club has had 0 success for 10 years and our squad is made by a bunch of jabronis.

all this complaining is quite ridiculous, when you consider the players we have, the willingness to sign young talents, and the fact that this club president has never shied away from signing elite players when given the right opportunity.

stop the crying ffs, i had said it before but you guys act like people who have started being fans 5 years ago. and it's not like you sign players in february lol, what do you guys expect? if you react to rumours about barca signing De ligt or rabiot, then why dont you also give credit to rumous about us signing Eriksen, Hazard, Neymar, Militao, Firpo?

i guess it's better to complain

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Post by Thimmy on Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:41 pm

Marcelo has told Real Madrid he wants to leave the club at the end of the season, according to Sport.

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Post by Thimmy on Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:20 pm

@Mr Nick09 wrote:please go support barca if you like their transfer policy so much lol. You sound like you're saying "marry her then! I don't care!" Rolling Eyes

this is the first season since a historic CL run, and you guys are complaining like this club has had 0 success for 10 years and our squad is made by a bunch of jabronis. We're all aware of how successful we've been. Doesn't excuse the fact that we've spent the last half a decade mostly signing players that most wouldn't project to have a substantial impact on the team in the near future, and by near future, I'm not just referring to this season or the next season. We'll have to desperately sign someone to patch up the holes that we've left unattended soon, and I don't think anyone considers that good preparation. If we want to continue challenging for trophies, that is. We have plenty of fullbacks, though. Marcelo is the least of our worries. Just because everyone considered you hot property last year, doesn't mean that you should let yourself go, all of a sudden.

all this complaining is quite ridiculous, when you consider the players we have, the willingness to sign young talents, and the fact that this club president has never shied away from signing elite players when given the right opportunity. The complaining may be a bit over the top sometimes, but the willingness to sign young talents seems to have completely taken over from our willingness to sign established talents in recent years. Arsene Wenger would be proud, for what it matters. "Never shied away from signing elite players when given the right opportunity". Well, he used to scour the transfer market quite aggressively, and elite players, both young prospects and ones that were entering their prime, wanted to join us. I don't think we have that kind of appeal anymore. We can boast all we want about our recent success, but I'm pretty sure other clubs and players have kept track of our current performance level, our unstable managerial situation, and Marcelo/Modric's flirting with other clubs. I would agree with you if our situation was that we only needed to replace one or two individuals, like CR7 and Bale, but the way I see it, we have a lot of patching up to do - alternatively, we wait for our young ones to mature 4-5 years down the line. The latter option doesn't sound awfully appealing.  

stop the crying ffs, i had said it before but you guys act like people who have started being fans 5 years ago. and it's not like you sign players in february lol, what do you guys expect? if you react to rumours about barca signing De ligt or rabiot, then why dont you also give credit to rumous about us signing Eriksen, Hazard, Neymar, Militao, Firpo?Well, Barca's transfer activity has never been perfect. They've fked up a lot more transfers than we have, and I think our sporting director+Flo deserve a lot of credit for that. However, they've always showed ambition to improve and sustain a competitive team - and because of that, people are more inclined to believe in rumors that are linked to Barca, and much less so when they're linked to us. We built the core of our successful team, back when we were widely considered to be more ambitious than Barca. As far as transfers go, things were different then.

i guess it's better to complain
I guess it's better not to discuss these things, and just be happy about everything?
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:52 pm

@Thimmy, we had a made squad in its prime where players like Bale, CR, Modric, casemiro, Kroos, Ramos, Varane, Marcelo, Caravajal were at the top of the game. They were literally top 3-5 in their positions and we had 0 need to upgrade. Benzema is a special case because he was protected. that's your starting XI, which was winning champions league. There was no room and no need to go spend millions on other players. Yet we signed James and look how that turned out, he was unhappy with playing time and left.

You guys have this unrealistic idea that we should have signed galacticos when those guys were in their primes, had created a fantastic bond on the pitch, and just knew how to play with one another. This is how you build a team. That squad was made and there was no glaring hole to fill. Keeping that squad together yielded 4 CLs in 5 years, never seen before.

RM dont have an unlimited well of money to sign 3-4 galacticos every summer. There is a willingness to sign the right players. We were ready to spend 180 millions on Mbappe. We were ready to make a deal with Chelsea last summer for Hazard but they did not want to sell. If Neymar becomes available, we will be ready to make a deal. That's the type of top end talents we are looking at. We have had 0 indication that Perez is unwilling to sign top players, this is a speculation born from people's frustration at not getting what they fantasize about. But in this market where players can easily be priced at 100 mil if they have 5 good games, you have to be careful who you sign. The strategy to sign young players is to see a kid like Vinicius come through. If he was playing for Borussia, we would have paid 100 mil next summer for him...

Saying that we have lost appeal as a club is unfunded and a tad ridiculous to me. We have always been unstable coaching wise, and the best example of our appeal is Hazard whoring himself out in england waiting that we sign him. he doesnt care who is coaching the club or what modric and marcelo are doing lol. Players are selfish enough not to care about those things.

At the end of the day, this discussion stemmed from Sports fapping about barca signing De Jong, and being linked with Rabiot and De ligt.

Why is it that i hear no praised about us being linked with militao, Hazard, Firpo, nerman, Eriksen? isn't that the kind of names you want associated with madrid? as i said, too much complaining over nothing. Be patient, squad building is not something you do overnight. Even next summer, we will continue to sign young players and elite talents provided the right opportunity. If there is no great deal to be made, we will simply not sign any schmuck for a crazy amount of money to make some here happy.

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