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Post by titosantill on Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:55 am

he had a whole summer to let flo know who or how he wanted to build his squad. he got hired before the world cup started. he was asked about ronaldo and said he likes the challenge and will make it work with the available players on our team. so he knew what he was getting into and he was excited about the challenge

he had lots of time to sell flo on any ideas he had, i've always felt a good coach should be a good salesman as well. we didn't start hearing rumors that lope would have wanted reinforcement until around the uefa super cup match with atleti.

tbh imo its not just about the 3-4 months, he didn't look like he had any plan to begin with. i respect him more now than when he coached us, cos he hasn't gone the "i asked madrid for x y z and they said no" route

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Post by FennecFox7 on Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:57 am

i have a feeling he’s going to bring neymar and a top level CF. quote me on this
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Post by titosantill on Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:31 am

lmao neymar, trust me at real madrid, when it comes to transfers these days, expect very little and hope (and pray, and pray harder and hope) for the best. this is a club that lost a 40 plus goal machine and signed a goalie. you think flo wouldn't like to have neymar? its psg we are dealing with , the only hint of hope we have is that neymar may be disappointed in the psg project after their elimination. but he's under contract, and who knows what psg will ask for or what flo can offer

for a calm state of mind, i'm expecting very little in the summer , and if big things happen, i'll get excited.
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Post by vanDEEZ on Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:03 am

@titosantill wrote:he had a whole summer to let flo know who or how he wanted to build his squad. he got hired before the world cup started. he was asked about ronaldo and said he likes the challenge and will make it work with the available players on our team. so he knew what he was getting into and he was excited about the challenge

he had lots of time to sell flo on any ideas he had, i've always felt a good coach should be a good salesman as well. we didn't start hearing rumors that lope would have wanted reinforcement until around the uefa super cup match with atleti.

tbh imo its not just about the 3-4 months, he didn't look like he had any plan to begin with. i respect him more now than when he coached us, cos he hasn't gone the "i asked madrid for x y z and they said no" route


To be fair to Lope, he was only on site the day before the WC started, and once the world cup starts you can't negotiate with anyone involved (basically all the good players). You make it sound like he had time over the summer, and he really didn't.
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Post by titosantill on Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:21 am

its not about negotiation. when he got kicked out of spain he had ample time to present ideas to florentino, i'm not saying lope should go out and sign players; but sell the idea to flo on what you need and why. he either didn't or if he did it was too late and unconvincing. he wasn't doing anything all summer, and he had flo's phone number email house address everything. if not flo then he had people close to flo's ear. all he did was talk about how beautiful the anthem was, and what an amazing squad he has

by the time media started making reports that he wanted a striker, and i think the name they threw out was rodrigo, those reports came out around the super cup, when we failed in the super cup flo then rushed to get mariano

my thing is, i don't think lope did a good job of selling his ideas to flo or convincing flo he needed more. he was either as delusional as flo or wasn't convincing enough...and we've signed players in world cup years before, i can't give flo a pass , neither can i give lope a pass either. he should have seen the situation moreso than florentino, he's spanish after all and a coach, so he was well aware of what he was going into
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Post by The Madrid One on Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:25 am

I must say, no matter what happens, i hold Zidane in the pantheon of gods and will print a picture of him to put on my work desk.

I hope Perez gave him the keys to the kingdom.

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Post by titosantill on Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:32 am

i'm interested in seeing what happens with the goalie situation, not just next season but this season. that's the first issue zidane will have to address, though i think keylor may have made up his mind to move on
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Post by sportsczy on Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:35 am

Neymar and Mbappe aren't coming. Cavani is a real possibility though if we want him...

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Post by Doc on Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:01 am

Maybe he did and was told to fk off and work with what you have. And as you can see, what we have really hasn't been up to scratch. No, I disagree with you totally there Tito, Lope got the short end of the stick which is just how the cookie crumbles at Madrid. Heard his severance package was lovely though.

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Post by vanDEEZ on Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:27 am

I'm with Doc on this one, I don't really know what any manager could "sell" to Perez in a WC summer to replace 50 goals per season without signing a proper striker.

Zidane a 3 time CL winner saw the writing on the wall and dodged one of RMs most disastrous seasons in recent history. In retrospect, how was Lopetegui supposed to change that? Not by talking to Perez, you have to do that with results in Madrid and you can't get results when the players you have are injured/unmotivated and you can't get new players in. You have to admit he had the deck stacked against him. He needed a LOT of things to all go right simultaneously in order to be successful here and I really don't blame him for not attaining it.
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Post by farfan on Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:41 am

I think some of you need to cool it down with Lyon players. Watching the likes of De Jong and Van de Beek made me realize how overrated some of our players are. Aouar, in particular, has been killing us with misplaced lateral passes for months now and Ndombélé's frequent lapses of concentration and unnecessary dribbling have punished the team numerous times.
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Post by Valkyrja on Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:23 am

@farfan wrote:I think some of you need to cool it down with Lyon players. Watching the likes of De Jong and Van de Beek made me realize how overrated some of our players are. Aouar, in particular, has been killing us with misplaced lateral passes for months now and Ndombélé's frequent lapses of concentration and unnecessary dribbling have punished the team numerous times.


We'll still take Aouar Proud

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Post by Doc on Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:02 pm

@farfan wrote:I think some of you need to cool it down with Lyon players. Watching the likes of De Jong and Van de Beek made me realize how overrated some of our players are. Aouar, in particular, has been killing us with misplaced lateral passes for months now and Ndombélé's frequent lapses of concentration and unnecessary dribbling have punished the team numerous times.

Agreed but Zidane is in charge now and Lyon's presi is seemingly always willing to sell.

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Post by Thimmy on Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:33 am

Apparently, people have been hating on him for his thot pants Laughing

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:37 am

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Post by FennecFox7 on Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:00 am

@Valkyrja wrote:
@farfan wrote:I think some of you need to cool it down with Lyon players. Watching the likes of De Jong and Van de Beek made me realize how overrated some of our players are. Aouar, in particular, has been killing us with misplaced lateral passes for months now and Ndombélé's frequent lapses of concentration and unnecessary dribbling have punished the team numerous times.


We'll still take Aouar Proud


Aouar is a good player but he is nowhere near ready. Come on man.
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Post by vanDEEZ on Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:18 pm

Personally I don't see why not. Our midfield has been a pile of garbage this season. It's not too much of a stretch to imagine a talented young player who is brought in, to compete and get into the team.
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Post by rincon on Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:24 pm

With Zidane back, can I take 1 Ceballos please?
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Post by The Demon of Carthage on Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:04 pm

No, you may not. You are, however, free to take those ridiculous pair of pants he's wearing in that photo.

Holy shit, they had me dying rofl

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Post by vanDEEZ on Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:38 pm

Currently we are only offering Bales, Modrics, Vallejos, and James’s
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Post by Doc on Wed Mar 13, 2019 5:06 pm

@rincon wrote:With Zidane back, can I take 1 Ceballos please?

Honestly didn't think anyone but, like, 3 of us liked Ceballos. Or even see potential for the very least.

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Post by halamadrid2 on Wed Mar 13, 2019 5:44 pm

ZZ oversaw his first session today and started it off with the good ol' teamtalk. The only time Solari did that was probably when he said his goodbyes. Urggh why couldn't we have appointed ZZ just before the Ajax 2nd leg No

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Post by rincon on Wed Mar 13, 2019 5:51 pm

@Doc wrote:
@rincon wrote:With Zidane back, can I take 1 Ceballos please?

Honestly didn't think anyone but, like, 3 of us liked Ceballos. Or even see potential for the very least.

I was day 1 with the Ceballos hype in GL, before he ever put on a Madrid shirt, from the U21 euros.
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Post by Doc on Wed Mar 13, 2019 5:58 pm

I actually watched Betis games to see him play, ugh. Ceballos at Jjuve could work nicely. He has that grit you need in Serie A and the skill. Just needs a manager to focus him on a position he can excel in. Heard Allegri could do these things...

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Post by halamadrid2 on Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:04 pm

Juve can have Kroos. They ahould leave Ceballos and Isco the hell alone

Next season could look like this hmm

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Post by FalcaoPunch on Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:28 pm

@halamadrid2 wrote:Juve can have Kroos. They ahould leave Ceballos and Isco the hell alone

Next season could look like this hmm

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Oh god, please never this.
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