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Post by Doc Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:35 am

Just wanted to know if there was anything in the Dutch media that making this actually anything solid. Don't trust Marca, AS or Nick tbh.

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Post by Mr Nick09 Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:46 am

you should have trusted me from the start, brother Vandeez just repeated the same thing

Van de Beek, OUT! 50-60 millions for him rofl
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Post by punkfusion1992 Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:16 am

I dont see Van De Beek coming here. He doesnt offer more than an Isco or Asensio. Honestly I am really happy with the signings as they are, we need to trim some fat out of the team and we are good to go. Its possible that we recoup more than 200 mill this transfer window the way our transfers out are going. Already got back 100 mill from Kova and Llorente transfers. Another 25 mill from RDT, and still need around 10 more transfers/loans. Reguilon will find a solid loan, so will Odegaard(though I would like to keep him for a season) and Theo will be sold. Overall the team has shaped up well
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Post by Cyborg Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:27 am

People are really off Van de Beek here aye.

I don't think he is anything like isco.

good value for a potential great imo.

I would love to see Odegaard in the team as well, he seems to be progressing well. That rw slot.
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Post by chad4401 Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:52 am

Isco and asensio offer next to nothing and their not team players, don't know much you guys need to see before just being honest, those guys and ceballos want to do is flukey dribbling and take nonsense shots zero creativity, instead trying to pass the buck to benzema/kroos open your eyes and take a good look what these players are doing on the pitch.

they all had their chances and they blew it because the fans and the Spanish media gives them that eternal free pass, getting more team oriented players is plus enough of the shitty dribblers that can't pass and only shoot.

The Ajax kid or frede or whomever don't care as long as they keep out the entitled selfish players of the starting 11, I'm good.
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Post by Turok_TTZ Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:36 am

if i want to lose a match quickly id go with

--------------benz
vinicius--hazard--rodrygo
-----casemiro---modric
mendy REEeMos Varane Carvajal.

no balance whatsoever we cannot pull off a 4231 that formation is suicide with what we got available for the dm spots.
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Post by Cyborg Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:53 pm

Reports that Vinicus and Rodrygo have been registered with the youth team.

How many players will be registered in the full team now. Is there room for everyone to stay?

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Post by Mr Nick09 Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:26 pm

Vinicius and Rodrygo registered with Castilla and kubo with juvenil to go around the non-EU rule, it's not about the number of players  in the squad mate.

Militao, Casemiro and Valverde are the non EU guys if the first team. Valverde hasn't gottent his paperwork done yet.
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Post by Cyborg Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:40 pm

Oh right.

It's a massive squad though. No one leaving
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Post by Mr Nick09 Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:01 pm

It's July chill lol, things will sort themselves out by September
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Post by sportsczy Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:12 am

Zidane is pretty savage in his interviews these days lol
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Post by Thimmy Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:32 am

I ate spaghetti today. It was good.
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Post by sportsczy Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:41 am

You do this whole setup... a million reporters show up... and they all know the dude will literally say nothing. But they keep asking questions lol.
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Post by futbol_bill Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:11 pm

If this is the extent of the revamping we all have been asking for ( i.e. no new midfielder coming and Bale staying), then one has to ask why wasn’t it done a year ago. They have added a star forward to replace Ronaldo, have added legit challengers to Benzema, Marcelo, Varane/Ramos as well as Bale. We do know that Zidane doesn’t want Bale, but with his contract and his attitude, it is what it is.

It seems to me Zidane is hoping on a rebound season for a lot of squad; Kroos, Modric, those being pushed as noted above plus Isco and Asensio. It baffles me why they think the midfield issues will go away with just one addition, let alone not having a plan B. Latest rumor is Atletico may go for Eriksen!

There will be a battle for RW between Asensio and Vinicius and in future Rodrygo, Brahim and Kubo, which hopefully doesn’t get derailed with Bale’s presence
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Post by sportsczy Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:48 pm

We don’t have more money to spend Bill. We literally have to sell in order to buy Pogba.

It’s as much as we can do In one window currently it looms like unless we sell and still have time to buy.
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Post by chad4401 Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:57 pm

Lmao bill so the revamp you wanted was to sell 90 percent of team and start over? As usual nonsensical let's spend a billion dollars on mbappe,Neymar and pogba, just play them and youth players.
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Post by Cyborg Sat Jul 20, 2019 3:44 pm

sportsczy wrote:You do this whole setup... a million reporters show up... and they all know the dude will literally say nothing. But they keep asking questions lol.


That little smile from Zidane when asked about Pogba. From that alone you could tell he wants Pogba.

Also, he is still saying players will leave. So thats' good.
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Post by futbol_bill Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:06 pm

sportsczy wrote:We don’t have more money to spend Bill.  We literally have to sell in order to buy Pogba.  

It’s as much as we can do In one window currently it looms like unless we sell and still have time to buy.


Nonsense, the last time we did a major revamping, we borrowed 600M using Ronaldo and Kaka as collateral. Much the way Barca are currently doing. The issues are

1. Flo doesn’t want to spend what ManU are asking (and I btw agree with him). And I question that even if we do sell Isco, James and / or Bale, whether Flo would then pay what ManU are asking.

2. There is no plan B. We lost out on Ndombele and now probably Eriksen. I unlike what Chad is suggesting did not believe entire midfield needed changing (it was you btw), but I do believe we need to change at least one of the starters.

But other than the midfield I do agree with the rest of the squad, except Bale.

My point in the post earlier today, was twofold.

1. Couldn’t these changes have been done last season?

2. Zidane is counting on return to form of Kroos, Modric, Isco and Asensio, plus is hoping for the veterans (Varane, Ramos, Benzema, Marcelo) are sufficiently motivated by their challengers and then that one of the kids Vinicius, Asensio, Rodrygo become a solid starter. - that’s a lot of faith, hope and charity on a very poor performing team (under all 3 coaches) from last season.
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Post by titosantill Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:37 pm

@bill, to answer your question, we couldnt make any changes at all last year because we needed to be embarrassed, lose 3 titles in one week, and barely score against a side in the top 4 for us to realize change has to happen
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Post by Clutch Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:39 pm

Were ever in on ndombele? Never heard Madrid being interested

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Post by sportsczy Sat Jul 20, 2019 11:11 pm

@Bill.  Look at the financials.  We were at a 100 mil working capital deficit last season and 190 mil cash in the bank.

Just a very illiquid time at Real Madrid.  IF we borrow big, we then need to shed wages and bring down the working capital deficit so that we can afford the extra interest payments.  

I spent some time looking at the annual report last season and it made me realize that we're not in a position in the immediate term to spend.  Just cannot unless we borrow quite a bit.

Take a look if you don't believe me:

https://www.realmadrid.com/en/members/member-card/annual-reports

I don't think Flo wants to borrow. He's changed his ways or there's something looming that he needs the capital for.
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Post by futbol_bill Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:18 am

I partially agree with you Sports. Above everything else Perez is a smart businessman. The papers you have examined reflects the concentration and investment in stadium renovation over past couple of years. He has told socios we have little debt other than the loc for stadium which will easily be paid once new stadium sponsorship is in place. He has said before there will be 300M available for purchases. I assume that is the 100M you have found plus the anticipated sales. All that said though he could go to the bank for more if he thinks it’s the right player as he has done before and as Barca are currently doing. My personal belief is he isn’t convinced Pogba is the right player at the price ManU is asking.
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Post by sportsczy Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:49 pm

I think it's more a wage issue than the fee for Pogba... given the working capital deficit. We can't add such a significant annual wage without shedding another big one.

I honestly think that selling Bale opens the door for Pogba even if there's little to no fee.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:11 pm

Zidane went full savage on Bale it doesn't get closer to GTFO my man
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Post by Thimmy Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:19 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:Zidane went full savage on Bale it doesn't get closer to GTFO my man


Zidane had spoken about Bale ahead of the match and left much more up to question, claiming that Bale “staying was not a problem,”
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:30 pm

Did you miss what he said after the game?

"Gareth Bale wasn't in the matchday squad today because the club is negotiating his departure...I hope it's soon, that would be the best for everyone".

"It's nothing personal against Gareth. It's just I have to take decisions. These things happen."

I think Zidane wasn't happy about the game yesterday because there are still too many players in the team he wants to get rid off, and his midfield target(s) are not in yet. The point of preseason is to prepare your new team not to play deadweight players to make the numbers. I would wager he was a bit frustrated yesterday and just decided to rip Bale and his agent a new one.

His fat fck of an agent finally confirmed they are working on an exit

Barnett [Bale’s agent]: “Zidane is a disgrace; he does not show respect for a player who has done so much for Real Madrid. Will Gareth leave? We’re working on it because it’s good for Bale and not because of Zidane’s pressure.” [afp]
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