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Post by Kaladin on Sun Aug 11, 2019 8:52 pm

My god i haven't seen a worst starting XI

Azpilicueta - actually one of the most overrated and probably the worst defender in the PL

Zouma - brainless

Christensen - who?

Emerson - lol

Jorginho - a player who's strengths are untapped

Kante - benched

Their whole attacking force - absolute GARBAGE

Lampard - another player turned manager who has no clur of what he's doing

I actually think they might be relegated

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Post by Lucifer on Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:41 pm

They actually looked crisp at the start, both on and off the ball until the penalty. Main issue seems to be that Tammy is not involving with others and on couple of occasions was too slow to pounce on ball. I think they will play good and if they show some quality in final third.
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Post by Art Morte on Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:43 pm

With Hazard, Higuain and Luiz they finished 3rd last season and Hazard is probably the only one that will be truly missed. This season is as great a chance as it gets for someone new to break into the top-6, though, either at Chelsea's, Arsenal's or United's expense.
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Post by RealGunner on Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:49 pm

Had Tammy scored that goal early on, it would have been a different game.
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Post by Hapless_Hans on Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:57 pm

Wasn't aware you guys are on a first name basis

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Post by Firenze on Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:57 pm

Agreed with the rest, they're not bad. We're just that good. It's our year.

Chelsea will be fine.
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Post by El Gunner on Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:00 pm

Yes as the answer to the thread title. Since they've became a big team at least, this has been their worst overall team.

I'm not trying to kneejerk as there's still many games left to go so I need to see more of them, but wouldn't be surprised if they float around the lower order of the top 10 this season
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Post by Kick on Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:44 pm

When did our history start? hmm

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:53 pm

@Kick wrote:When did our history start? hmm
when Abramovic bought the club

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Post by JespSwe on Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:47 am

i can understand that abraham and mount will be needing time as they are just integrated to first team very quickly they should have been introduced gradually though. and it showed against Utd

for me the most disappointing player has been barkley, lol and this is just from neutral point of view but been wondering when barkley actually will be top dog and prove that he deserves to be first team player and he hasnt so far.

he was abysmal against utd

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Post by McLewis on Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:18 am

Meh, Chelsea will be fine imo.

Abraham should be off to the races once he buries some chances. He looked all right, just needs to be more physical and combative. He looked cowed by Maguire and Lindelof, especially Maguire. Chelsea have a tradition of big, bruising strikers who bully defenders. Abraham isn't of that mold so time will tell if he will work up front. Too early to tell, but I like what I saw.

Lampard must settle who's going to be playing behind his striker. Pedro did well enough to warrant his spot on the right, but he's the only one right now. Willian will definitely get a spot as well when he's back. Pulisic looked better (to me anyway) than Mount, but not as good as Barkley, who probably shouldn't have been subbed off. Either way, I'm surprised Abraham got as much service as he did, even if it did wane as the game went on.

Kante will be back and I don't believe the talk of him not being in Lampard's plans. He's the best midfielder they've got and even at 50% he's invaluable to them. They need him back to 100% ASAP if that midfield is to function to the level expected otherwise, this type of loss won't be an outlier.

Zouma had a real mare obviously and Christiansen also didn't look all that assured as well. The crazy thing to me is that Rudiger, who got a mistake or 2 in him as well, was sorely missed. He reads the game much better than Zouma. Wouldn't be surprised if Chelsea's backline stabilizes when he returns.

As for Kepa, no keeper is going to look good with a leaky defense in front of him. He needs to find his voice more. Had very little chance on those goals though.

This was a hard hello for Lampard for EPL management, but he knows this league so well. The idea to give the youth academy products a chance to establish themselves is a good one and I think more clubs of Chelsea's stature should do it. Unfortunately, the price for that can be performances like this. It's a bump on a very long road. Chelsea fans gotta put this one in the rearview mirror and move on.
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Post by Kick on Mon Aug 12, 2019 6:01 am

@McLewis wrote:Meh, Chelsea will be fine imo.

Abraham should be off to the races once he buries some chances. He looked all right, just needs to be more physical and combative. He looked cowed by Maguire and Lindelof, especially Maguire. Chelsea have a tradition of big, bruising strikers who bully defenders. Abraham isn't of that mold so time will tell if he will work up front. Too early to tell, but I like what I saw.

Lampard must settle who's going to be playing behind his striker. Pedro did well enough to warrant his spot on the right, but he's the only one right now. Willian will definitely get a spot as well when he's back. Pulisic looked better (to me anyway) than Mount, but not as good as Barkley, who probably shouldn't have been subbed off. Either way, I'm surprised Abraham got as much service as he did, even if it did wane as the game went on.

Kante will be back and I don't believe the talk of him not being in Lampard's plans. He's the best midfielder they've got and even at 50% he's invaluable to them. They need him back to 100% ASAP if that midfield is to function to the level expected otherwise, this type of loss won't be an outlier.

Zouma had a real mare obviously and Christiansen also didn't look all that assured as well. The crazy thing to me is that Rudiger, who got a mistake or 2 in him as well, was sorely missed. He reads the game much better than Zouma. Wouldn't be surprised if Chelsea's backline stabilizes when he returns.

As for Kepa, no keeper is going to look good with a leaky defense in front of him. He needs to find his voice more. Had very little chance on those goals though.

This was a hard hello for Lampard for EPL management, but he knows this league so well. The idea to give the youth academy products a chance to establish themselves is a good one and I think more clubs of Chelsea's stature should do it. Unfortunately, the price for that can be performances like this. It's a bump on a very long road. Chelsea fans gotta put this one in the rearview mirror and move on.


If we're being serious in this thread, then saying Kante is benched is the silliest thing I've ever read.

If we're not, #LampordOut

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Post by Thimmy on Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:00 am

They were undoubtedly the better team on the pitch, up until Zouma conceded that penalty. Man United overwhelmed them with momentum and intensity in the second half. I don't think this match was indicative of anything in regards to their quality, that we weren't already aware of.

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Post by Glory on Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:03 am

Bad thread. Chelsea will be fine. They are a decent side when their whole squad’s fit. Only problem position is CF.

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Post by The Demon of Carthage on Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:08 am

Feel bad for Kante; a Monster of a midfielder being wasted in such a mediocre side.

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Post by Firenze on Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:51 am

It'll be a terrible season but I expect them to go HAM once the transfer ban is up - maybe. Obviously they have the Azar cash, but eh, now I'm thinking on it, Roman's interest seems to have been pretty low the last couple seasons. Hmm.
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Post by zigra on Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:36 am

Imo both teams looked pretty bad. Obviously the result could've been much different had they scored the 1-0 or even the 1-1 instead of hitting the post/bar but ultimately they were still quite poor. Either team needs to improve a lot if they want to challenge for a top 4 spot.

@Firenze Don't really think Chelsea can do that these days. You pay like £60-70m for talented young players and well above that for a proven star.
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Post by Kick on Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:52 pm

I'm going to go out on a wing here and say that Kovacic will be our best summer signing. Jorginho will be dropped once Kante is back.

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:53 pm

Kovacic is trash.

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Post by McLewis on Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:23 am

Kovacic doesn't look suited to the PL to me. Should've stayed in Serie A tbh.
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Post by danyjr on Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:01 pm

Except there is no pressure on this team to perform. The philosophy of this team has changed, they haven't been spending big on players for a few years now. They are already net €80 million on the plus side in the transfers. There is a shift with emphasis on building up the team from their infamous youth system and young players. And Frank Lampard is the right man for this job. With the transfer ban in place, it is the right thing to do.

If anything, I welcome this change. It is not going to be an overnight success but give it a few years and if Chelsea stick with this philosphy, it will start to pay off in the long run.

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Post by rincon on Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:56 pm

@danyjr wrote:Except there is no pressure on this team to perform. The philosophy of this team has changed, they haven't been spending big on players for a few years now. They are already net €80 million on the plus side in the transfers. There is a shift with emphasis on building up the team from their infamous youth system and young players. And Frank Lampard is the right man for this job. With the transfer ban in place, it is the right thing to do.

If anything, I welcome this change. It is not going to be an overnight success but give it a few years and if Chelsea stick with this philosphy, it will start to pay off in the long run.

How can you know that? Lampard has an uphill battle with this squad and his 0 experience managing in the league.

Also Kovacic. When will the hype end, he isn't even good enough to be a starter in this version of Chelsea.
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Post by danyjr on Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:19 pm

He is the right man for the job as he knows the club inside out. He is the perfect candidate to work with the youth academy. Any other coach would have gone to spend cash but instead he has chosen to build something from within the club.

Regarding his managerial expertise, it will remain to be seen. Nobody knows how good/bad he will be.

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Post by rincon on Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:36 pm

How did he choose not to spend cash? Chelsea are under a transfer ban. He didn't choose not to spend, he couldn't. He hasn't worked with Chelsea's youth academy either, or any other youth academy for that matter iirc. Saying he chose to build something from within the club, when he had no choice but to do it, sounds like a forced narrative.
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