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@Nishankly wrote:Norwich for their antics are still at the bottom smh

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@Vibe wrote:You back :coffee:
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Post by Nishankly on Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:11 pm

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/liverpool-make-44million-transfer-window-19171481

44m out
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42m profit

Klopp Mad
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Post by Art Morte on Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:16 pm

@Nishankly wrote:https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/liverpool-make-44million-transfer-window-19171481

44m out
1.3m in

42m profit

Klopp Mad


I don't think any PL club signed a player this summer that I thought we should have tried to sign (apart from Andy Carroll, of course).
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Post by Nishankly on Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:54 am

@Art Morte wrote:
@Nishankly wrote:https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/liverpool-make-44million-transfer-window-19171481

44m out
1.3m in

42m profit

Klopp Mad


I don't think any PL club signed a player this summer that I thought we should have tried to sign (apart from Andy Carroll, of course).


This is absolutely true but I do personally feel we could have scouted some full backup back in the same time.
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Post by Helmer on Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:50 pm

@Nishankly wrote:https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/liverpool-make-44million-transfer-window-19171481

44m out
1.3m in

42m profit

Klopp [smiley]https://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_mad.gif[/smiley]
He has to pay bills.
I would have loved to have a backup for Mane or Salah. But apparently it is Origi Mad

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Post by Sina on Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:28 pm

football365 wrote:The fear factor
For most of last season, the overriding theme of the Premier League season was Big Six teams enjoying near-total dominance against the rest. Tottenham and Arsenal were on long winning streaks, Manchester City and Liverpool were almost perfect at home and even Manchester United had only dropped points in such matches on occasion.

Between February 2018 and April 20, 2019, the teams who finished between third and sixth (Chelsea, Tottenham, Arsenal and Manchester United) played 67 league games against teams from outside the Big Six. The results were as follows:

Chelsea – 13 points dropped in 16 matches
Manchester United – 9 points dropped in 17 matches
Arsenal – 2 points dropped in 18 matches
Tottenham – 3 points dropped in 16 matches
Total: 27 points dropped in 67 matches

And then something changed. While Manchester City and Liverpool continued their relentless home onslaught, the four teams below them fell away alarmingly. In 13 matches against non-Big Six sides since, Chelsea, Arsenal, Tottenham and Manchester United have dropped a combined 25 points. That is a remarkable drop-off.

There are caveats to mention. Despite the battle for the top four going down to the wire, there may have been a fall in intensity towards the end of last season with Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs all involved in European football. It is also a small sample size from which to draw conclusions.

But there is evidence to suggest that there is far less reason to fear being the away side at Stamford Bridge, Old Trafford, the Emirates and Tottenham Hotspur Stadium: Sheffield United at Chelsea, Newcastle at Tottenham, Crystal Palace at Manchester United. If you defend stoutly and look to counter, you can frustrate and ultimately unnerve your apparently elite opponent. Are those issues likely to ease when those four teams are forced into the cycle of twice-weekly football?
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Marcus Rashford
Three goals from open play in his last 21 Manchester United matches. With Anthony Martial injured, the onus is on Rashford to score regularly. But while he had a wonderful two-month stretch between December 2018 and February when he scored eight goals in 13 matches, either side of that Rashford has scored 11 goals in 72 Manchester United games. That must improve if United are to reach the top four.
https://www.football365.com/news/premier-league-winners-and-losers-118

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Post by Jay29 on Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:04 pm

If I were managing outside the top six, I wouldn't fear going to Arsenal/Spurs/United/Chelsea, either.

On their day,they can turn teams over by four or five goals, but they're also flawed teams with obvious weaknesses that are worth attacking.
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Post by El Gunner on Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:19 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A365Spl6I0k

Mourinho is just levels hey, such a mind for the game
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Post by The Demon of Carthage on Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:38 pm

He's so enjoyable to watch, but yeah punditry is so below him and he deserves to be in the dugouts.

I used to think that pundits are (almost) as knowledgeable and competent as managers. Then I had the opportunity to see how both of them did when they crossed into each other's worlds. While Mourinho has been nothing but stellar at punditry, Neville's stint at Valencia was nothing less of a disaster.

Of course this is just one case and you can't draw a definite conclusion from just one case. And I'm sure if you really do your homework, you'll find a pundit who'll do well as a manager. But it was really interesting to see the difference in analysis between an established manager and players-turned-pundits.

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Post by Glory on Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:43 pm

Meh he says one thing and does complete opposite when he has a chance. He is a genius alright unlike morons like Neville, but what's the use if the moment things start to go bad, he uses all his intelligence to scheme and plot and form pathetic narratives to pander to his ego.
Hate the man with a passion and dont have time for his punditry either.
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Post by Vibe on Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:09 pm

@El Gunner wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A365Spl6I0k

Mourinho is just levels hey, such a mind for the game


I don't disagree about his mind, but I could have told you that. It's just that the rest of them are complete idiots so anyone who brings a bit of logic in there looks like a genius.
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Post by Glory on Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:14 pm

This ^
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Post by Art Morte on Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:30 pm

He seems to be saying all the right things as a pundit, but he certainly wasn't doing nor saying the right things as United's manager.
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Post by RealGunner on Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:45 pm

@Art Morte wrote:He seems to be saying all the right things as a pundit, but he certainly wasn't doing nor saying the right things as United's manager.


He finished 2nd with that United squad. His greatest achievement ever. Don't think he was the problem tbh
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Post by Art Morte on Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:54 pm

@RealGunner wrote:
@Art Morte wrote:He seems to be saying all the right things as a pundit, but he certainly wasn't doing nor saying the right things as United's manager.


He finished 2nd with that United squad. His greatest achievement ever. Don't think he was the problem tbh


He also spent a ton of money on players without improving the team at all. If he was available, would you take him as Arsenal's manager today?
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Post by RealGunner on Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:04 am

I like Emery so no but if we get rid of Emery then I would love Mourinho.

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Post by Nishankly on Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:17 am

@RealGunner wrote:I like Emery so no but if we get rid of Emery then I would love Mourinho.



Won't perform on your budget imo
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Post by Kick on Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:21 am

@RealGunner wrote:I like Emery so no but if we get rid of Emery then I would love Mourinho.



Don't. Man Utd hurt enough.

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Post by Helmer on Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:42 pm

@Nishankly wrote:https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/liverpool-make-44million-transfer-window-19171481

44m out
1.3m in

42m profit

Klopp [smiley]https://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_mad.gif[/smiley]
Klopp at it again Mad
We would have easily won the title in the last season and even this season had we also spent like City and Utd usually spend.

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Post by Unique on Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:08 pm

@Helmer wrote:
@Nishankly wrote:https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/liverpool-make-44million-transfer-window-19171481

44m out
1.3m in

42m profit

Klopp [smiley]https://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_mad.gif[/smiley]
Klopp at it again Mad
We would have easily won the title in the last season and even this season had we also spent like City and Utd usually spend.
its not klopp. its the owners that wont spend

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:34 pm

@Helmer wrote:
@Nishankly wrote:https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/liverpool-make-44million-transfer-window-19171481

44m out
1.3m in

42m profit

Klopp [smiley]https://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_mad.gif[/smiley]
Klopp at it again Mad
We would have easily won the title in the last season and even this season had we also spent like City and Utd usually spend.

Sorry but that's nonsense.

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Post by Helmer on Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:46 am

@Hapless_Hans wrote:
@Helmer wrote:
@Nishankly wrote:https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/liverpool-make-44million-transfer-window-19171481

44m out
1.3m in

42m profit

Klopp [smiley]https://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_mad.gif[/smiley]
Klopp at it again Mad
We would have easily won the title in the last season and even this season had we also spent like City and Utd usually spend.

Sorry but that's nonsense.

sorry but there are many logical scenarios. I can give you the most obvious one also. But I will let you figure it out albino

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