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Post by Guest on Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:02 pm

@EarlyPrototype wrote:
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St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:Higgy goal record is kind of horrendous in CL
which is why i don't really rate higuain that high..
flop in big games

Absolutely wrong

He scored in the semi final, I don't care what anyone says that was a perfectly legit goal

Lol. A disallowed goal makes him a big game striker when he's been an epic fail otherwise?

Scored against Milan Very Happy and Barca(legit goal) and was unlucky against Lyon.

Do you really want me to list the big time goals in benzema's career. Hint: there are at least 10.

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Post by ♠Ace on Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:03 pm

I'm still not over that lyon miss.. painful memories Sad

hey sportsczy, whats with the signature? thought you were a real madrid fan

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:04 pm

It's kinda scary how Benzema played well for half a season and still has great stats.

Benzema x Kun :coffee:

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Post by Yuri Yukuv on Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:05 pm

How about game winning goals? I bet this table would be opposite.

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Post by Freeza on Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:05 pm

Higgy is aweful in the cl, we kind of need a big time attacker to score in the cl, give Benzema another year and i think he will shine

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Post by EarlyPrototype on Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:06 pm

@sportsczy wrote:
@EarlyPrototype wrote:
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@Crimson wrote:
@♠️Ace wrote:
St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:Higgy goal record is kind of horrendous in CL
which is why i don't really rate higuain that high..
flop in big games

Absolutely wrong

He scored in the semi final, I don't care what anyone says that was a perfectly legit goal

Lol. A disallowed goal makes him a big game striker when he's been an epic fail otherwise?

Scored against Milan Very Happy and Barca(legit goal) and was unlucky against Lyon.

Do you really want me to list the big time goals in benzema's career. Hint: there are at least 10.

Yeh I know Benz steps up in big games just saying you guys being a bit harsh on higuain.
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Post by Yuri Yukuv on Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:08 pm

lets be realistic, benzema scored a load of hattricks in meaningless games. 3 goals against auxere LOL. Only meaningful goal he scored all season was against sevilla.

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Post by Turok_TTZ on Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:10 pm

Thats right folks, i didnt forget my "list". Higuain srsly needs to improve CL wise. Hes perfect everywhere but not CL.....

Benzema with OL-

Rosenborg BK - Norway
FC Steaua Bucureşti - Romani
Dynamo Kyiv - Ukraine
Stuttgart - Germany
Rangers - Scotland
Fiorentina - Italy
Bayern Munich - Germany
Manchester United - England

Benzema with Real Madrid-

AC Milan - Italy
Ajax - Holland
Auxerre - France
OL - France

Quite a profile.

Heres Higuain's profle for those who might be interested.

Higuain - Real Madrid

FC Zürich - Switzerland
Ajax - Holland
AC Milan - Italy

I thought he wud have one more team he scored on when I read that higuain scored only 4 (Officially) but it turned out in the season of 09-10 he scored two goals his two goals that season on FC Zurich exclusively. that same season, benz scored only one goal which was against AC Milan.

Thoughts?

EDIT: Okay now u all may be wondering why I excluded Higuain's goal against Farca. well that is becuz not only was the goal disallowed (At the hands of the ref and UEFA), but also becuz currently, Higuain plays for Real madrid. I dont count any team that is from the domestic league during which the said player is playing for a team which is in the same league as the team he scored on in europe. If Benz scored against barca during when he wore the madrid shirt, I will not count it either. likewise, if he had scored against a french team during when he wore the OL jersey, I wud not count it as well. Only reason I list his former team OL in the profile is becuz he is with Real Madrid now and Lyon isnt part of La Liga when he scored on them, Auxerre included. Hope ye all understand all that long text and hope it clears any unanswered questions.

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Post by Turok_TTZ on Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:11 pm

@Yuri Yukuv wrote:lets be realistic, benzema scored a load of hattricks in meaningless games. 3 goals against auxere LOL. Only meaningful goal he scored all season was against sevilla.

I love how u overlooked his goal against lyon in the first leg. being selective are we?

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Post by Freeza on Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:13 pm

@Yuri Yukuv wrote:lets be realistic, benzema scored a load of hattricks in meaningless games. 3 goals against auxere LOL. Only meaningful goal he scored all season was against sevilla.
I seem to recall he scored a very important goal against Lyon this season

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Post by Doc on Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:13 pm

That I would give him. The goal against Lyon was a pretty huge goal that shouldn't be ignored.

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Post by Guest on Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:14 pm

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
@Crimson wrote:
Higuain and Benzema have created more goal scoring chances per min than Aguero alot more actually

do you have numbers to support this?

Total 2010/2011 Statistics:

Higuain (6 Assists) 28 goalscoring chances in 1850mins - 1 per 66mins

Benzema (8 Assists) 42 goalscoring chances in 2880mins - 1 per 68mins

Aguero (5 Assists) 41 goalscoring chances in 3409 minutes - 1 per 83mins

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Post by Guest on Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:15 pm

He also set up the last minute tying goal in Milan.

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Post by Yuri Yukuv on Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:16 pm

Meh, that goal was coming anyways. Cris got a leg on it. Marcelos goal was the important one.

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Post by Turok_TTZ on Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:18 pm

@Yuri Yukuv wrote:Meh, that goal was coming anyways. Cris got a leg on it. Marcelos goal was the important one.
I cud say the same for many of Higuain's goals but I wont. Im not biased enough to do such nonsense.

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Post by Doc on Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:19 pm

@Yuri Yukuv wrote:Meh, that goal was coming anyways. Cris got a leg on it. Marcelos goal was the important one.

Lol, a goal is always coming but sometimes never reaches. Benzema's away goal proved to be a really vital goal in us breaking the R16 issue.

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Post by Turok_TTZ on Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:20 pm

@Doc wrote:
@Yuri Yukuv wrote:Meh, that goal was coming anyways. Cris got a leg on it. Marcelos goal was the important one.

Lol, a goal is always coming but sometimes never reaches. Benzema's away goal proved to be a really vital goal in us breaking the R16 issue.

especially when Benz once again in the 2nd leg, again between lloris's legs lol. give our forwards some credit ffs.

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Post by Yuri Yukuv on Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:25 pm

@Turok_TTZ wrote:
@Yuri Yukuv wrote:Meh, that goal was coming anyways. Cris got a leg on it. Marcelos goal was the important one.
I cud say the same for many of Higuain's goals but I wont. Im not biased enough to do such nonsense.

You dont get it, I dont care for higgy or benzema. This thread is supposed to reflect the reality of our striker but it does anything but. Fact remains that the only player who scores winning goals regularly through out all the season against different opponents is cristiano. Higgy is fantastic at times, a life saver in our darkest moments and then he fails in easy moments. Benzema is great but he is ohhh soooooo emotional, he had a good run but we could have decided the title on the last day if he didnt miss so much during Dec-Feb period.

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Post by Doc on Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:26 pm

@Turok_TTZ wrote:
especially when Benz once again in the 2nd leg, again between lloris's legs lol. give our forwards some credit ffs.

Like not belittling Higuain to show Benzema in a good light in the midst of the rumours of him getting the chop for Aguero?!

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:36 pm

@Crimson wrote:
St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
@Crimson wrote:
Higuain and Benzema have created more goal scoring chances per min than Aguero alot more actually

do you have numbers to support this?

Total 2010/2011 Statistics:

Higuain (6 Assists) 28 goalscoring chances in 1850mins - 1 per 66mins

Benzema (8 Assists) 42 goalscoring chances in 2880mins - 1 per 68mins

Aguero (5 Assists) 41 goalscoring chances in 3409 minutes - 1 per 83mins

Thx. It's actually looking good for both our strikers, their game is much cleaner. My only reserve with this is that they are playing with Ozil, Di Maria, Ronaldo etc...

Kun does it alone, Forlan was crao this season, and Reyes is Mr. inconsistent

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Post by Guest on Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:39 pm

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
@Crimson wrote:
St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
@Crimson wrote:
Higuain and Benzema have created more goal scoring chances per min than Aguero alot more actually

do you have numbers to support this?

Total 2010/2011 Statistics:

Higuain (6 Assists) 28 goalscoring chances in 1850mins - 1 per 66mins

Benzema (8 Assists) 42 goalscoring chances in 2880mins - 1 per 68mins

Aguero (5 Assists) 41 goalscoring chances in 3409 minutes - 1 per 83mins


Thx. It's actually looking good for both our strikers, their game is much cleaner. My only reserve with this is that they are playing with Ozil, Di Maria, Ronaldo etc...

Kun does it alone, Forlan was crao this season, and Reyes is Mr. inconsistent

Shots and pass attempts + goalscoring chances is a more complete way to look at the overall impact of a striker. I'll post these after the France game.


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Post by hrealmadrid on Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:39 pm

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
@Crimson wrote:
St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
@Crimson wrote:
Higuain and Benzema have created more goal scoring chances per min than Aguero alot more actually

do you have numbers to support this?

Total 2010/2011 Statistics:

Higuain (6 Assists) 28 goalscoring chances in 1850mins - 1 per 66mins

Benzema (8 Assists) 42 goalscoring chances in 2880mins - 1 per 68mins

Aguero (5 Assists) 41 goalscoring chances in 3409 minutes - 1 per 83mins

Thx. It's actually looking good for both our strikers, their game is much cleaner. My only reserve with this is that they are playing with Ozil, Di Maria, Ronaldo etc...

Kun does it alone, Forlan was crao this season, and Reyes is Mr. inconsistent

Thank you, and I think that's the main point in this discussion
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Post by Turok_TTZ on Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:39 pm

@Doc wrote:
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especially when Benz once again in the 2nd leg, again between lloris's legs lol. give our forwards some credit ffs.

Like not belittling Higuain to show Benzema in a good light in the midst of the rumours of him getting the chop for Aguero?!

Im more worried about higuain than i am the benz. if higuain is non transferable then he doesnt need to affirm himself staying.

I rate Higuain very highly. just dont rate him very much in cl. he has done nothing to change my opinion of him in cl if anything its worse now. If he cant break this bad habit next season, he is on his way to becoming the new Zlatlan Ibrahimovic.


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Post by the xcx on Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:42 pm

What do you guys prefer a clinical CF or a Cf that is technical?
Have to with technical here.
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Post by Turok_TTZ on Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:44 pm

Benz in top form is both. though if i have to choose between one technical.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:47 pm

Always a technical one. They can make the difference in more diverse ways and get involved in the game. They are also always the best.

technically limiited poachers are a waste, good supersub

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