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Post by Adit Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:02 pm

Illaramndi is a midget and we cant pair him with the likes of Modric or Gundogan with him.While Jose Rodriguez is tall,excellent on the ball and very good physically and better defensive contribution/putting body in the line...i think we can mold Jose R to a busquets/Guardiola type player.

Not calling for Jose to get promoted now btw; He is just 18.

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Post by sportsczy Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:07 pm

Jose Rodriguez is nowhere near ready. He needs to go somewhere on loan and see if he can play at a top level before coming to Madrid. Jese is the only exception because he has off the charts skills.. We need to buy people in the CM/DM area.
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Post by SuperMAG Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:11 pm

Jose is one of my fav cantera players, i expect him to make it big, he has it all, all the qualities needed to be a complete midfielder, just need to polish them out and he is ready for the first team, a full dominating season in castilla will be enough.

I also like the inter midfielder, kovacic, we should sign him if we fail to sign gundogan.

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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:11 pm

Adit wrote:Illaramndi is a midget and we cant pair him with the likes of Modric or Gundogan with him.While Jose Rodriguez is tall,excellent on the ball and very good physically and better defensive contribution/putting body in the line...i think we can mold Jose R to a busquets/Guardiola type player.

Not calling for Jose to get promoted now btw; He is just 18.

Jose Rodiguez 180 cm (realmadrid website)
Illarramendi 177cm (espn, 179cm transfermarket)

ok adit, 2-3 centimeters difference, amazing
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Post by SuperMAG Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:12 pm

sportsczy, the same was said about carvajal. i think jose just need one full season with castilla (with dominating performance afcource)

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Post by SuperMAG Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:14 pm

Jose will get 1,2 cm taller, just wait for it nick lol Laughing

what he meant was the body build, jose looks and fights like a tall dude.

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Post by Onyx Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:14 pm

If only Javi Martinez was signed last year. Would have been a good partner for Modric/Gundogan.

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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:18 pm

SuperMAG wrote:Jose will get 1,2 cm taller, just wait for it nick lol Laughing

what he meant was the body build, jose looks and fights like a tall dude.

blabla bullshit
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Post by Onyx Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:31 am

How about Nemanja Matic from Benfica for DM?

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Post by Onyx Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:33 pm

Alonso rejected a new contract again, according to El Economista. He wants to leave on a free next year.

At the start of the year he wanted to see how his physical fitness was at the start of 2014.

Because of a recent groin operation, he think he's in the final stretch of his career.

Apparently he's dreaming of returning to the EPL.

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Post by LeVersacci Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:34 pm

Let him go next year, he's finished anyway.
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Post by halamadrid2 Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:40 pm

this is hardly surprising. He wanted to run down his contract since last season

I think he will retire in LaReal though personally which is where he started his career


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Post by Nedved Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:42 pm

He will go to Liverpool. I really loved those days when he played along with Gerrad. I doubt he wants to go anywhere else.
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Post by halamadrid2 Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:49 pm

The last thing Liverpool need right now that would disturb them from breaking into that top four is another legend who most likely will not improve them but will be played from start because of his status

He loves both Sociedad and Liverpool though so you never know which club he might choose
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Post by SuperMAG Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:45 pm

he can/should leave this summer (at least i hope so), i want him to make way for gundogan.

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Post by halamadrid2 Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:47 pm

why would we replace him with somebody completely different who is similar to Khedira??? Doesn't make sense sorry

Its like Thiago replacing Busquets lol........its just not feasible
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Post by SuperMAG Thu Jul 04, 2013 6:34 pm

have you watched us vs dortmound few months ago.

We dont need to find the exact replica of alonso, we just need to create good combination.

A combination of gundogan with a dm like illamandi or bender (lars) or jose (in the future hopefully) will do much much much better then alonso-khedira.

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Post by Onyx Thu Jul 04, 2013 6:39 pm

Gundogan isn't similar to Khedira. Gundogan is a playmaker.

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Post by halamadrid2 Thu Jul 04, 2013 6:46 pm

SuperMAG wrote:have you watched us vs dortmound few months ago.

We dont need to find the exact replica of alonso, we just need to create good combination.

A combination of gundogan with a dm like illamandi or bender (lars) or jose (in the future hopefully) will do much much much better then alonso-khedira.

so what you essentially is saying is replace Khedira/Modric with Gundogan, now thats a plausible wish but I regard Modric higher than him. Maybe if Ancelotti in the future wanted a midfield of Gundogan-Illaramendi-Modric it would be good but what guarantee do we have that he actually doesn't do a Sahin???
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Post by MadridiCanada Thu Jul 04, 2013 6:49 pm

selll this immobile statue this summer!! at least we will earn a little money by selling him..

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Post by halamadrid2 Thu Jul 04, 2013 6:53 pm

Alonso is still very useful you know. He is just declining a bit and our problem with him is not even an ounce of our problems with Kaka. At least Alonso isn't blocking anyone and will be extremely useful when we need an experienced player to step in. He can tutor the new DM that we will get.
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Post by sportsczy Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:20 pm

Yeah... I like Alonso. I just think he's only suited in a 3-man midfield and not a 2-man one anymore. He doesn't have enough athleticism to get away with it now.
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Post by Error Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:13 pm

sportsczy wrote:Yeah...  I like Alonso.  I just think he's only suited in a 3-man midfield and not a 2-man one anymore.  He doesn't have enough athleticism to get away with it now.
Yea, I think so too. He is nowhere near as bad as some here suggest. It would be same as if Juve would play Pirlo next to a CM. I would definitely keep him as a rotational player at least if we continue with 2-man midfield and an ideal situation would be him as a mentor for Illaramendi like halamadrid2 has suggested.
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Post by SuperMAG Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:03 pm

yess, he can work in juve easily, will be world class there. BUT NOTTTTTT in madrid.

We have fullbacks that are in the final third, we have cb's in the midfeild, we have midfields acting as a striker.

We need energy midfeilders, who can be all over the field, covering all areas, midifelders who dont have weaknesses, who are not slow.

Alonso is defenitly not that. Modric is too weak, and has no game plan, when he receaves the ball, he just dances around while the whole attack is passed.

Thats the difference between ozil and other am's, they dont have control over flow of attack, while ozil is a master of it, even having a bad day, he still governs the attack which makes us more dangerious and controlling.

Modric screws alot of our attacks with his dancing, despite that he is a great player. but i want gundogan. he will be the ozil of midfeild.

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Post by Valkyrja Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:15 pm

SuperMAG wrote:yess, he can work in juve easily, will be world class there. BUT NOTTTTTT in madrid.

We have fullbacks that are in the final third, we have cb's in the midfeild, we have midfields acting as a striker.

We need energy midfeilders, who can be all over the field, covering all areas, midifelders who dont have weaknesses, who are not slow.

Alonso is defenitly not that. Modric is too weak, and has no game plan, when he receaves the ball, he just dances around while the whole attack is passed.

Thats the difference between ozil and other am's, they dont have control over flow of attack, while ozil is a master of it, even having a bad day, he still governs the attack which makes us more dangerious and controlling.

Modric screws alot of our attacks with his dancing, despite that he is a great player. but i want gundogan. he will be the ozil of midfeild.

Modric can't be the fulcrum of a team like Real Madrid. Not composed on the ball, can't dictate the midfield and is too selfish for a dictating CM.
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Post by SuperMAG Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:23 pm

my point, lol thats the word, didcating. forgot that word, so had to explain it in a longer post. Smile 

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