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Post by Babun on Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:53 pm

Essentiallly, they both play CAM/AM. It was a battle of the leagues first, now,we can compare them to each other first hand Very Happy


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Post by Mr Nick09 on Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:54 pm

one is a starter, the other is a bench warmer

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Post by The Madrid One on Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:55 pm

we will compare sahin vs him more, but if we can contain xavi then we can do good on fabregas as well

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Post by the xcx on Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:55 pm

Why compare future zidane to a benchplayer? Laughing Fabregas sealed hes career when he joined farca.
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Post by Babun on Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:59 pm

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:one is a starter, the other is a bench warmer
I didn't mean their game, I meant their hairstyles, shirt numbers, jerseys Very Happy I mean, what else could you compare with Cesc, how he entertains himself on the bench? Very Happy

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Post by H.A. on Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:59 pm

It's like comparing Ozil to our Kaka Razz

Anyway Ozil will always be better since he's our main creator, cesc at barca won't be able to shine with a certain iniesta/messi/xavi/thiago being around

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Post by Guest on Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:00 pm

One's more of a converted forward (Ozil), while the other is an old school attacking midfielder. As such, Cesc tends to start a lot deeper than Ozil and truly plays in the middle. Rarily does he go to a wing. Cesc also uses a lot of different passes in terms of length.

Ozil is more of a creative forward. He attacks the box a lot more than Cesc and prefers to start from a wing and work inside. Plays much closer to his strikers and, thus, scores regularly.

Both are very precise and creative with their passing, although technically very different.

Of course, one is schooled in Tiki Taka while the other is playing in a direct style of attack.

I don't rate one better than the other right now. Now that they are playing in the same league, we will truly see who is the better player.

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Post by Babun on Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:01 pm

@H.A. wrote:It's like comparing Ozil to our Kaka Razz

Anyway Ozil will always be better since he's our main creator, cesc at barca won't be able to shine with a certain iniesta/messi/xavi/thiago being around
C'mon now, he isn't bad. Yeah, he'll need to be Xavi's shadow for the next 2 years but ,eventually, he'll get the role Very Happy
@sportsczy wrote:One's more of a converted forward (Ozil), while the other is an old school attacking midfielder. As such, Cesc tends to start a lot deeper than Ozil and truly plays in the middle. Rarily does he go to a wing. Cesc also uses a lot of different passes in terms of length.

Ozil is more of a creative forward. He attacks the box a lot more than Cesc and prefers to start from a wing and work inside. Plays much closer to his strikers and, thus, scores regularly.

Both are very precise and creative with their passing, although technically very different.

Of course, one is schooled in Tiki Taka while the other is playing in a direct style of attack.

I don't rate one better than the other right now. Now that they are playing in the same league, we will truly see who is the better player.
Sportsczy grasped the essense of my post Very Happy I only think that he'll be their main force next year to come...
Sportsczy, did Spain ever have a real AM except of Mendieta? Very Happy

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Post by H.A. on Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:06 pm

babun1024 wrote:
@H.A. wrote:It's like comparing Ozil to our Kaka Razz

Anyway Ozil will always be better since he's our main creator, cesc at barca won't be able to shine with a certain iniesta/messi/xavi/thiago being around
C'mon now, he isn't bad. Yeah, he'll need to be Xavi's shadow for the next 2 years but ,eventually, he'll get the role Very Happy

By then Ozil will be counting the number of personal achievements he'll have lol, getting compared to the legends of the game Very Happy

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Post by Guest on Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:13 pm

Back in the 80s, Senor played close to a AM role in Euro 84 from what i recall.

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Post by StrugaRock on Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:22 pm

Cesc >>> Ozil, God knows what will happen in the future

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Post by bebop_23 on Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:58 pm

frankly, my knowledge of cesc extends only as far as youtube highlights. i know he has an incredible passing range n quite a decent shot. how good is he at possession keeping ala xavi?

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Post by The Madrid One on Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:00 am

people will be incredibly aggressive if we say 1 is better than the other.

but i feel that fabregas will never explode into doing something ballon d or worthy with barca as have xavi and maybe ozil in the future with madrid.

fabregas is a wc player but something gives me that feeling even after xavi leaves. i might be very very wrong though.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:09 am

Did'nt the Ozil>>>>>Fabregas cookie tell you anything? scratch
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Post by steve_vai on Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:20 am

for me Ozil is not only a good passer,he is fast,slick and elegant unlike fabregas who counts mainly on his accurate passing and movement on the bitch and thats it.both are great but Ozil is the winner.

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Post by LeSwagg James on Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:17 am

I agree with sportsczy... Can't wait for El Clasico man, the match ups keep getting better and better every year it seems, Barca has gotten stronger but so have we... It's going to be on like Donkey Kong

Btw there is no doubt in my mind Fab will get a lot of minutes, he will be worked into the line up some how... Maybe he won't be a starter this season but I see him being a starter as early as next season...

He is more similar to Xavi than Iniesta but I could see him replacing Iniesta because he is a true Cule, and you know Barca love their Cule's Razz

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Post by JuvenelCuore on Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:21 am

Right now, probably Fabregas for me only because Ozil just broke out, whereas Fabregas has been on the scene at the top level since he was 16.

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Post by halamadrid2 on Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:21 pm

why are we comparing the two, better to compare fabregas to kaka, they will be doing the same job next season

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Post by Freeza on Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:33 pm

I can't say which one is better, but in real i would much rather have özil on the team, he has more potential and isn't as injury proned as cesc, and he fits our style perfectly.

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Post by futbol_bill on Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:03 pm

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:one is a starter, the other is a bench warmer

!!Not for long Nick
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Post by futbol_bill on Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:11 pm

I like Ozil a lot. But as Sportsczy says he actually a converted forward and will play some games as a forward wing.

Cesc on the other hand is a top notch attacking midfielder. He will start the season the the bench, due to his late integration with the team, but the plan is for him to start. They are planning on playing 4 midfielders (Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets with Cesc) and playing only 3 defense. Also they have Thiago, Mascherano, Keita and Kiko in reserve. In a few years you'll see them with a starting line-up of Thiago and Cesc with Busquets.

I think both players are excellent and it's difficult to say who is better and also to say who will be more valuable to their team.

I think the bigger question is how much better is their midfield to our??
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Post by Babun on Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:16 pm

@Freeza wrote:I can't say which one is better, but in real i would much rather have özil on the team, he has more potential and isn't as injury proned as cesc, and he fits our style perfectly.
He defines our way of playing in final 3rd Very Happy In other words, our attack is based around him, of course he fits more at the moment but Cesc is no less of a midfielder Very Happy


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Post by Guest on Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:18 pm

Barca will have the better midfield Bill. No question about that... by how much will be more interesting. They started Keita-Iniesta-Thiago in the last game. That is their C midfield lineup honestly. Will be interesting to see how we do against their A midfield lineup.

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Post by Babun on Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:22 pm

@futbol_bill wrote:I like Ozil a lot. But as Sportsczy says he actually a converted forward and will play some games as a forward wing.

Cesc on the other hand is a top notch attacking midfielder. He will start the season the the bench, due to his late integration with the team, but the plan is for him to start. They are planning on playing 4 midfielders (Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets with Cesc) and playing only 3 defense. Also they have Thiago, Mascherano, Keita and Kiko in reserve. In a few years you'll see them with a starting line-up of Thiago and Cesc with Busquets.

I think both players are excellent and it's difficult to say who is better and also to say who will be more valuable to their team.

I think the bigger question is how much better is their midfield to our??
To the first part, Özil has got more options than Cesc (a lot faster, better ball control, stronger, leaves goalkeepers almost no chance when free on goal), he could develop into midfielder and forward, something Cesc can't do because he isn't as fast or much of a real attacking midfielder ( more like a CM converted to ACM). He is also not much of a dribbler, at the moment I'd say Cesc is better but with time Ozil has got more room for improvement. Something else where Cesc is really bad at is controlling the pace of the game. He can't do it like Xavi or Iniesta, even Thiago is ahead of him in that aspect Very Happy

About the second part, they can only field 11 players on the field( unless they field their infamous 4-3-3-4 formation). I'm not scared of their midfield at all. If they start with 3 defenders, our counters would murder them. No midfield is fast enough to recover against people like CR7, Ozil or Di Maria in defence in time Very Happy
The only guy who could prove to be a real problem is Alexis Sanchez Very Happy

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