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Post by Mamad on Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:59 pm

Thats that. every time Barca attacked = goal. what the frak was that? Ramos and Carvalho are shit.

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Post by vanDEEZ on Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:03 am

pepe was the only thing even remotely positive in our defense tonight..

coentrao played well but carvalho and ramos were just piss poor tonight
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Post by ÖMARz on Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:03 am

kneejerk. it doesnt suck. however during that game, yes it did.

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Post by Ganso on Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:04 am

you need a good cb par like manu has rio-vidic or milan nesta-silva.Your defense would be the last thing i would care about if we were to face Madrid again.

People can disagree as much as they,but pepe-carvalho doesnt cut it.
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:04 am

the midfield is the problem, not the defense. Too much focus on either attack or defense, while barca strength is the middle, and we are trying to bypass it

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Post by vanDEEZ on Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:05 am

honestly it is knee jerk but the fact still remains, our defense is one of the worst in europe.. of the "big" squads.
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Post by Freeza on Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:05 am

I don't our defense is that bad, Carvalho is just too old and Varane needs more experience. But Man United's defense wasn't much better against Barca

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Post by jenno on Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:06 am

Messi is just GREATT!!!
Our defence is fine...

I mean what can barca do without Messi?
Messi scored 14 goals against us...


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Post by The Madrid One on Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:08 am

its the midfield for you idiots that still think its the defense.

4-3-3 is the way to go.

instead khedira and xabi get overpowered by a world class pressing system.

this time i can say.

tactical error mr mourinho.
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Post by Ganso on Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:08 am

@Freeza wrote:I don't our defense is that bad, Carvalho is just too old and Varane needs more experience. But Man United's defense wasn't much better against Barca
it took them 2 long shots to win the game.tbh Man u's defense was very solid considering it was barca.
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Post by ÖMARz on Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:10 am

@Ganso wrote:
@Freeza wrote:I don't our defense is that bad, Carvalho is just too old and Varane needs more experience. But Man United's defense wasn't much better against Barca
it took them 2 long shots to win the game.tbh Man u's defense was very solid considering it was barca.

Thats because man u's defence was there whole team last time i checked....

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Post by FalcaoPunch on Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:12 am

Di Maria didn't do shit.
Kheidra had a terrible game.

Coentrao played well but I noticed he gave Pedro to much space.
He played alot better when he shift to the midfield.

Ronaldo would honestly piss me off at times. All he did was ridiculous step overs and lose the ball every time. Dani Alves made him his bitch.
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Post by Turok_TTZ on Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:12 am

Carvalho played. that was the problem. ramos played at rb. that too was a problem.

We needed ramos at the centre not the wing. arbeloa shud have played and ramos in cb. Mourinho I feel messed up bad in the selection for the field.

Midfield wise.... wut nick said somewhat.

and we dont take our chances at front.

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Post by The Madrid One on Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:16 am

its a garbage cup afterall, its nothing else but glorified pre season game.

of course its honor and its important as a show of improvement to win against them but take into consideration that we are getting closer.

our in ability to score more in the bernabeu, and the luck those faggets had in the bernabeu helped them so much that i cant even believe it
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Post by Thimmy on Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:25 am

Another problem is that, despite Benzema playing well these days, he still bottles crucial chances and I've noticed him having gaps in concentration when it matters. You can deny it all you want, but that's a fact Smile Oh, and I'm a Benzema-fan, for those who don't already know that. Where's RVN when you need him Sad

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Post by vanDEEZ on Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:29 am

ill just restate a post i said somewhere else i forget

goal1: ramos is in no mans land.. what are you doing? kept iniesta onsides by a mile with all the room in the world

goal2: carvalho moved about as much as a traffic cone to stop messi

goal3:ball watching on all accounts- team fail.

that said i have no regrets blaming the first 2 goals on our defense.. though our midfield was quite non existant tonight anyways so it didnt help.
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Post by zarola on Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:32 am

Lmao Ramos is the best RB in the world and hes so young. How can you even begin to criticize him?

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Post by Thimmy on Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:35 am

deezydeez wrote:ill just restate a post i said somewhere else i forget

goal1: ramos is in no mans land.. what are you doing? kept iniesta onsides by a mile with all the room in the world

goal2: carvalho moved about as much as a traffic cone to stop messi

goal3:ball watching on all accounts- team fail.

that said i have no regrets blaming the first 2 goals on our defense.. though our midfield was quite non existant tonight anyways so it didnt help.

Now, list who's responsible for all of our missed chances and how they managed to miss them Thumbs up We need Higuain to get back into form. Right now, we're missing efficiency up-front.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:37 am

this thread is just focusing on the wrong issue, as always.

first we blame casillas, then the defense.

but no one talks about the midfield, where you actually win and lose games, oh well.

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Post by S32TABLANCA on Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:39 am

Coentrao played absolutely shit at LB. I dont even. Marcelo wasnt good either.
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Post by vanDEEZ on Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:42 am

@Thimmy wrote:Now, list who's responsible for all of our missed chances and how they managed to miss them Thumbs up We need Higuain to get back into form. Right now, we're missing efficiency up-front.

i agree, benzema was a ghost for most of the game, higuain came on and didnt really make an impact

and again like the first leg i feel like we could have put this game away early, but we wasted chances and allowed barcelona the space to develop their game

good and poor play on all areas of the field for us tonight.
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Post by ÖMARz on Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:43 am

Some people here are unbelievable. one game you praise the defence and are content its one of the best D's in the world and once we lose a match you start dissing them. Midfield is key, when there is no link up between the D and midfield then there wont be any solid play. similar to how there was no link between the midfield and attack. The first leg proves this, we dominated and over ran them in the midfield and so we won the link from D to attack and vice versa.

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Post by vanDEEZ on Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:44 am

@zarola wrote:Lmao Ramos is the best RB in the world and hes so young. How can you even begin to criticize him?

sorry did you watch the match? if you had you would realize that ramos held iniesta onsides by a mile.. completely out of position.

this doesnt mean i dont think ramos is a great defender- he is.. but he was caught out of position and it led to their first goal as simple as that.
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Post by ÖMARz on Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:45 am

deezydeez wrote:
@zarola wrote:Lmao Ramos is the best RB in the world and hes so young. How can you even begin to criticize him?

sorry did you watch the match? if you had you would realize that ramos held iniesta onsides by a mile.. completely out of position.

this doesnt mean i dont think ramos is a great defender- he is.. but he was caught out of position and it led to their first goal as simple as that.

And so now hes the problem of our team, sell ramos and we'll win the CL. kneejerk.

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Post by vanDEEZ on Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:47 am

@ÖMARz wrote:
deezydeez wrote:
@zarola wrote:Lmao Ramos is the best RB in the world and hes so young. How can you even begin to criticize him?

sorry did you watch the match? if you had you would realize that ramos held iniesta onsides by a mile.. completely out of position.

this doesnt mean i dont think ramos is a great defender- he is.. but he was caught out of position and it led to their first goal as simple as that.

And so now hes the problem of our team, sell ramos and we'll win the CL. kneejerk.

do you know how to read? because im not sure where i said sell ramos?

i made that line more visible for you
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