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Post by Mr Nick09 on Mon Sep 12, 2011 4:33 am

Since we have a large section, would be nice to keep track of what the boys are doing outside, and how well they are coming along.

We have a couple of players loaned out in Primera, so this would be a good place to discuss each performances, if any of us happens to catch some of them.

Obviously we will hear and will probably get to see more of Canales since he plays for Valencia, but really, would be nice for all to share any piece of infos they have on weekly performances.

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Sarabia @ Getafe
Canales @ Valencia
Juan Carlos & Mateos @ Zaragoza
Fran Rico @ Grenada

let me know if im missing someone.

Canales

Watched both Valencia games so far, He had his better performance so far against Santander. He came in the second half, and helped the transition in the last 3rd third, game opened up for Valencia and they won it. I wouldnt say he was key, but he helped. As for his individual development, too early to judge, enjoying the form from spain NT during which he showcased his natural talent.





Against Atletico, didnt notice much, Atletico was running the second half so i didnt notice him much.

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His debut game with Getafe was rough, came on very late, missed a lot of passes, very very nervous as expected for a debut.

Against Madrid he was having his first start. First half was very raw still, playing against the team of your heart does that to you, pressured cooked atmosphere in the Bernabeu as well, the pace, the excitement etc... brief, difficult first half. The fans however were clapping for him and cheering him up, and he stood up during the second half. He was playing with more confidence, and dare, beat ramos and pepe on a couple of occasions and showed that raw talent and unique make up he has. I can see him growing in that team, and taking on very big place in their attack. Good little player we have there, well balanced combination of WF/SS/AM.



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Post by SuperMAG on Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:50 pm

Canales against racing was dissapointing, did nothing but small distance passes, it was a uselss 45min.

It remininded me exatly how granero plays, he wasnt making through balls or dangerious passes that leads to goals. his positioning was bad too. too deep.

Against gerogia it was a much better performance. that freekick was incridible.

that thing is canales is a rithem player. we expected him to perform by giving 5min to him, it wasnt going to work that way.

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Post by Zealous on Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:20 pm

Sarabia was much better in the second half against us. I can see him becoming their best player eventually.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:37 pm

@SuperMAG wrote:Canales against racing was dissapointing, did nothing but small distance passes, it was a uselss 45min.

It remininded me exatly how granero plays, he wasnt making through balls or dangerious passes that leads to goals. his positioning was bad too. too deep.

Against gerogia it was a much better performance. that freekick was incridible.

that thing is canales is a rithem player. we expected him to perform by giving 5min to him, it wasnt going to work that way.

Being very harsh there, it's a game debut, new team, new system, you cant expect him to have telephatic understanding with the team and pull out xavi like passes.

Also a matter of mentality, because with Spain u21, he is the boss and he knows he is boss, but when he plays with a big team like Valencia, he starts from the bench, so he needs to adapt. Some kids think they are bosses all the time, Canales is more shy.

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Post by Adit on Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:42 pm

Canales actually played well,valencia were 1-3 down before his intro and wasnt been able to move the ball throw midfield before canales and co came in.

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Post by S32TABLANCA on Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:51 pm

Took my idea again?

Oh well, I was going to wait a bit, but meh.
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Sat Sep 17, 2011 5:19 pm

canales started for Valencia
http://wwfreddy49net.blogspot.com/2011/07/canal-2.html

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Post by EarlyPrototype on Sat Sep 17, 2011 5:21 pm

Nice I am gonna watch this.
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Post by Zees on Sat Sep 17, 2011 5:30 pm

ooo,im watching this

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Post by Doc on Sat Sep 17, 2011 6:45 pm

Canales is a cantero now? Nice...

He had a decent game today. Nothing to really talk about, still hating on Soldado though...

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Post by Ganso on Sat Sep 17, 2011 6:50 pm

he was average today.
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Post by Zealous on Sat Sep 17, 2011 6:54 pm

He's a consistent goal scorer that Soldado. Shame we couldn't really use him when he was with us.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Sat Sep 17, 2011 6:58 pm

Soldado is a difficult forward to build up in a top club. He is scorer that uses his instinct to find good position. Not naturally gifted with size, speed, power or technique, so he needed a lot of playing time to sharpen that instinct.

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Post by Zealous on Sat Sep 17, 2011 7:53 pm

Yeah but he could still have been very useful IMO. I understand why it didn't work out though.

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Post by Adit on Sat Sep 17, 2011 7:54 pm

Soldado now is a rich mans higuain.He has more things in his wallet than higuain.He is better all around striker.Jack of all trades but mastered at none.

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Post by EarlyPrototype on Sat Sep 17, 2011 7:55 pm

@Adit wrote:Soldado now is a rich mans higuain.He has more things in his wallet than higuain.He is better all around striker.Jack of all trades but mastered at none.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Sat Sep 17, 2011 7:57 pm

Soldado is now better than higuain? scratch

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Post by Adit on Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:00 pm

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:Soldado is now better than higuain? scratch
better than current injured higuain lol,btw he is a terrific all around striker.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:06 pm

No he isnt, he is a good poacher with decent skills and that's about it.

Negredo is a more interesting forward to have for a coach, and that's why he is playing with the NT at the moment.

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Post by Zealous on Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:07 pm

Injured Higuain > you

Besides he'll be 100% soon anyway.

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Post by Adit on Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:16 pm

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:No he isnt, he is a good poacher with decent skills and that's about it.

Negredo is a more interesting forward to have for a coach, and that's why he is playing with the NT at the moment.
Soldado is better than current higuain ,it is not even up for debate.Higuain has not played a single full match in this season,while soldado is leading goal scorer in la liga.Also he has no barca/real midfield to feed him.Higuain has yet to reach 100%.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:23 pm

I'm not comparing him to higuain, you are.
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Post by Doc on Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:27 pm

The f**k is Adit talking about?

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Post by Adit on Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:30 pm

@Doc wrote:The f**k is Adit talking about?
that the la liga leading goal scorer soldado is better than current injured higuain.

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Post by Ganso on Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:31 pm

Higuain is better than soldado at pretty much everything,even atm
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