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Post by Babun Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:37 pm

We were in total control until he lost it. Nothing, we could do about right now Very Happy As bad as it was, he is an integral part of the squad, live with it and stop complaining Very Happy
I don't see how Mou could've turned things around with a single pivot (Alonso) Very Happy Kaka didn't create or finish properly and Benz had an off day. If one of them had scored in first half, we could've have spared ourselves from late drama.Calm down friends, no need to hate on Di Maria or others. The team has itself to blame for losing its cool.
Before some comes, he could've substituted Lass. Lass had no preseason and no match practice... eco smile
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Post by Zealous Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:44 pm

Khedira didn't lose anything. His red card was a disgrace and should never have happened.

The same people calling out Di Maria's BS are having a go at Khedira even though the Levante player's dive was arguable worse.

And I swear if youu guys pull out the "He was on a yellow he should be more careful" I'm going to bust a fuse. Khedira is 100% blameless in my eyes and he should be in yours as well.
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Post by Giovanni10 Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:47 pm

Khedira was on a yellow, he maybe should have been more careful :coffee:
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Post by Babun Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:48 pm

Zealous wrote:Khedira didn't lose anything. His red card was a disgrace and should never have happened.

The same people calling out Di Maria's BS are having a go at Khedira even though the Levante player's dive was arguable worse.

And I swear if youu guys pull out the "He was on a yellow he should be more careful" I'm going to bust a fuse. Khedira is 100% blameless in my eyes and he should be in yours as well.
He isn't blameless but he isn't the sole reason we lost Very Happy I get your chivaliry points for him but he should've been more careful Very Happy Honestly, their leftback outdid Alves by miles in one night Very Happy
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Post by Zealous Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:02 pm

When a player has to be more careful because the Ref is absolute garbage then something is wrong with football.

The ref is not supposed to be an obstacle. Khedira is blameless.
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Post by alexander mahone Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:04 pm

I don't blame Khedira, but I agree he should have been more careful after on yellow.
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Post by Magricos Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:08 pm

I didn't see the match which is probably a good thing but people seem to be reacting very strongly was it really that bad ?

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Post by Zealous Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:12 pm

It was nothing. If you watch it you'll just get pissed off at how ridiculous that red card was.
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Post by Guest Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:16 pm

Di Maria is at fault, it was an utter disgrace what he did.

Khedira was trying to pull DI Maria up, instead Di Maria continued to act like a little b....

Di Maria should be benched for an indefinite amount of time, because it was his fault alone why we went down to 10 men and why we ended up losing

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Post by Magricos Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:18 pm

I'm talking about the general play in the match as well.

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Post by Babun Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:21 pm

Magricos wrote: I'm talking about the general play in the match as well.
All control and no goals until Khedira saw the red card(Di maria playacting with a push afterwards...). Afterwards, the midfield was a mess like in the two previous games. Mou subbed Benz off for CR7. They still couldn't do anything. At some point, Levante scored on counter because Carvalho had the sudden urge to mark the same man Marcelo did Very Happy Ozil came on the last 20 minutes, obviously too late Very Happy
Here my explanation why we couldn't score with all the possession but without Ozil when Khedira was still on:
https://goallegacy.forumotion.com/t8264-balance-and-width-problems#231557
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Post by Onyx Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:21 pm

Why did Khedira have to push the other player over?

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Post by teza1992 Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:14 pm

I don't blame Khedira at all, it was all Di Maria.
The entire situation would've been resolved if Di Maria would've gone on with it.
He needs to get benched I wanna see Callejon having a go on the wing he's always done a good job when he played, but knowing mou Di Maria could score a hat trick own goal and still play next week.

And here I thought the days ofno player was untouchable were overguess I was wrong.

Was so annoyed when mou partially blamed sami for the loss, look at the god damn root
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Post by skali Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:45 pm

Whenever you put yourself in a position that a referee gets to decide the outcome, you are wrong. End of story.

We can all agree here that his second yellow was way too harsh, but simple fact of the matter is that if he hadn't pushed that guy from Levante, he wouldn't be carded period.

When Busquets rolls over exaggarating fouls like a *bleep*, he isn't doing the irrational thing, even if it is despicable, because experience tells us that he is at a very low risk of getting a card for that, much less a second yellow. On the other hand, just one foul well acted out (out of several he will be involved in during a normal game) can raise the odds of the opponent seeing red by leaps and bounds.

On the other hand indiscipline - pushing, elbowing, harsh, reckless or outright dangerous tackles - are completely irrational. They increase the odds of you getting a card, whereas the opponent stands to lose nothing.

So if you put A (diving, theatrics) and B (increased aggressivenes in fouls) together, you will notice that instead of being opposing forces that seek to cancel each other out, the two actually create a momentum which inevitably leads to increased odds that team B is going to be on the receiving end of unfavourable refereeing, and quite possibly a red card.
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Post by EarlyPrototype Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:49 pm

Khedira was innocent and just unlucky to be the victim of Levantes shit antics.
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Post by Adit Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:51 pm

I dont understand why every one blaming maria and maria alone?

Khedira was equally at fault,i dont care if he is the most innocent guy in the team or not.Use your fraking brain.He fell in their crap trap.
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Post by EarlyPrototype Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:52 pm

Di maria was the one that chose to roll around on the floor holding his face and that is what triggered Khedira to push the Levante player.
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Post by skali Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:56 pm

Is the concept of rationality completely lost on everyone?
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Post by Adit Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:00 pm

EarlyPrototype wrote:Di maria was the one that chose to roll around on the floor holding his face and that is what triggered Khedira to push the Levante player.
so what?. if maria was actually got hit khedira would have earned that red no matter what.
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Post by EarlyPrototype Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:08 pm

You don't know that. His first yellow was nothing as well.
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Post by Pedram Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:30 pm

I think we just need to move on. finding who was at fault won't get us anywhere. we lost 3 points, nothing more, put the blame on the team not individual.
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Post by Babun Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:23 pm

Zealous wrote:It was nothing. If you watch it you'll just get pissed off at how ridiculous that red card was.
You belong to the majourity of real fans Very Happy There was a survey by 'ABC' sport and most of the people blamed Mou for the loss,followed by ref etc. On the 4th place was Khedira with 2.4% votes Very Happy
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