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Post by huntsman on Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:26 pm

Obviously guys you ve pinpointed the wrong problem, sure our midfield can be improved but our defense is the main problem.

Problem starts with iker, anyways who do you think we should sign to improve our defense?
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Post by Ganso on Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:29 pm

Madrid should sell iker
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Post by huntsman on Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:36 pm

Well said, Ganso.

And Kaka should start, and also Lasssana and Varane.
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Post by Guest on Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:47 pm

We pinpointed the problem

It was Lass

Problem solved

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Post by Zealous on Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:49 pm

Basically this ^^^

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Post by huntsman on Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:49 pm

Mourinho needs to get his shit together.

Iker, GTFO.

Lassana, Starts

kaka not only starts, but continues.

Varane, come on.


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Post by Rebaño Sagrado on Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:50 pm

we should also sell ozil,benz and pipita...

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Post by huntsman on Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:50 pm

@Zealous wrote:Basically this ^^^

You re wrong. Lassana is the dude. I just hope mourinho would give him the chance to prove himself.
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Post by Zealous on Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:51 pm

No "you re" wrong LOL

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Post by huntsman on Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:51 pm

MARADONA>messi wrote:we should also sell ozil,benz and pipita...

i dont give a bleep about Ozil and Pipita, but i d rather we stick with Benz.

Sell the Ozil and pipita. They're nothing but details.
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Post by Adit on Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:52 pm

Lass on the filed -assist to rayo.0-1

Lass out-6-2

enough said.

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Post by Guest on Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:53 pm

@huntsman wrote:
@Zealous wrote:Basically this ^^^

You re wrong. Lassana is the dude. I just hope mourinho would give him the chance to prove himself.

Prove himself

Like during the preseason he told Real Madrid to frack off and refused to play and train with his team mates and then tried to force his way out?

Or the part where he started against Racing and cost us the game with 10 costly turnovers and one of the worst midfield perfomances in Madrid's history since Graveson??

Or the part where he got subbed after 30mins because he cost us a goal and was doing nothing NOTHING at all in midfield?

Stop trolling and being a fracking idiot. Go back to your own section, Barcelona is over there and frack off from our forums you pos.

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Post by Onyx on Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:01 pm

Ramos and Marcelo were getting owned far too many times. Also Casillas needs to concentrate.
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Post by Kev on Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:40 am

TBF, if there's one thing Valdes is better than Casillas at, it's concentration. Valdes hardly sees the ball, but when he does, he's usually always ready and rarely screws up massively.

At least Casillas only loses concentration in low-profile games and not big games where the scores are tight. Apart from the 5-0 debacle, he has performed exceptionally well in all big games.

In terms of defence, Varane needs to play as much as he can. I don't care if we lose games from his mistakes (which won't happen), because this guy will be our most important defender from next season onwards. The more we prepare for Carvalho's retirement/ benching/ exit, the better condition we will be in when he eventually retires/ is benched/ exits.

Varane is one youth we cannot f*ck up. We aren't exactly loaded with 10000 promising young defenders.
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Post by huntsman on Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:44 am

That goal we conceded this game? It wasnt Lassana's fault. It was Iker's and the defense.

I hope we all agree on that.
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Post by H.A. on Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:54 am

@huntsman wrote:That goal we conceded this game? It wasnt Lassana's fault. It was Iker's and the defense.

I hope we all agree on that.



look closely [10th second] :lol!: :lol!:

Troll on though xD

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Post by huntsman on Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:12 am

I saw the goal. You just proved my point buddy. Two Rayo players trolled our entire defense line made of 4 players, and one of the two rayo players took a long range shot but iker was being himself.

Sure Lass lost the ball, almost every goal comes from a turnover one way or the other but if we want to pinpoint the problem (to learn from our mistakes in the future) it was not lassan's fault, it was Iker and the defense.

The mini-crisis is not over yet. It's just postponed until next week. I will wait and see.
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Post by guest7 on Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:19 am

Lass is a headless, stupid, bad defending chicken. Can't even think for one second.
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Post by huntsman on Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:21 am

omarish wrote:Lass is a headless, stupid, bad defending chicken. Can't even think for one second.

I dont know about that, but he wasnt responsible for the goal we conceded against Rayo. It was an Iker tradermark and a defensive mistake.

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Post by guest7 on Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:23 am

@huntsman wrote:
omarish wrote:Lass is a headless, stupid, bad defending chicken. Can't even think for one second.

I dont know about that, but he wasnt responsible for the goal we conceded against Rayo. It was an Iker tradermark and a defensive mistake.


So giving away possession that cheaply isn't his fault? If he didn't give away that risky pass (and not a forward risky-esq pass) they wouldn't even have that goal scoring chance.
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Post by huntsman on Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:26 am

omarish wrote:
@huntsman wrote:
omarish wrote:Lass is a headless, stupid, bad defending chicken. Can't even think for one second.

I dont know about that, but he wasnt responsible for the goal we conceded against Rayo. It was an Iker tradermark and a defensive mistake.


So giving away possession that cheaply isn't his fault? If he didn't give away that risky pass (and not a forward risky-esq pass) they wouldn't even have that goal scoring chance.

I didnt say he wasnt at fault. Turnovers happen all the time. It's our fault we didnt integrate him earlier to our system. What i said is, the goal we conceded was an Iker Blunder and a defensive lacking.

With this kind of defending and goalkeeping, we will struggle to win any trophies.
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Post by guest7 on Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:28 am

@huntsman wrote:
omarish wrote:
@huntsman wrote:
omarish wrote:Lass is a headless, stupid, bad defending chicken. Can't even think for one second.

I dont know about that, but he wasnt responsible for the goal we conceded against Rayo. It was an Iker tradermark and a defensive mistake.


So giving away possession that cheaply isn't his fault? If he didn't give away that risky pass (and not a forward risky-esq pass) they wouldn't even have that goal scoring chance.

I didnt say he wasnt at fault. Turnovers happen all the time. It's our fault we didnt integrate him earlier to our system. What i said is, the goal we conceded was an Iker Blunder and a defensive lacking.

With this kind of defending and goalkeeping, we will struggle to win any trophies.

Dude, when he did something that stupid and unnecessary, there is only him to blame. Iker and the defense shouldn't even need to deal with it. They all were caught off guard and Lass is the only one to blame.
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Post by huntsman on Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:32 am

But they ended dealing with it and they were not caught off guard. They were well positioned, see the vid again.

Iker was crapping in his pants, and he stuttered like he always does. I ve never liked him because his saves are driven by fear and not motivation and thrust.

It's just my opinion dude. I am not defending Lassana, that was a very bad turn over, but i wouldnt want to blame it all on him because that goal was a defensive and iker blunder.


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Post by H.A. on Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:45 am

@huntsman wrote:I saw the goal. You just proved my point buddy. Two Rayo players trolled our entire defense line made of 4 players, and one of the two rayo players took a long range shot but iker was being himself.

Sure Lass lost the ball, almost every goal comes from a turnover one way or the other but if we want to pinpoint the problem (to learn from our mistakes in the future) it was not lassan's fault, it was Iker and the defense.

The mini-crisis is not over yet. It's just postponed until next week. I will wait and see.

I like your persistence xD

Lass was the reason the two rayo players even attacked, it wasn't even a proper turnover but a pass directly to them eco smile

Let me put it this way, if lass didn't pass to the rayo players they wouldn't have attacked, iker wouldn't have spilled the ball, NO GOAL affraid

Again no lass stupid pass, no attack, no goal Wink

So this is his fault, like it or not :lol!:

Another thing, what crisis, you mean lass staying in the midfield?! That's a crisis for sure! You see each time lass starts, misplaces a pass, go into stupid tackles or gains a yellow card a kitten dies. The world will soon end out of kitten, we cannot have that, it'll be a HUGE crisis pale

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Post by huntsman on Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:51 am

Our defense and Captain should know better and be prepared for these kinds of scenarios dont you think?

We have 4 defenders in place and a captain and they were taken by two Rayo players. How do you want me to trust our defense and captain again especially if it's against elite strikers and players in general?

Maybe i worry too much, but the way i see it, this goal was not Lass's fault. It was purely a defensive mistake.




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