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Post by guest7 on Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:24 am

also kaka has been in a fantastic form, also i think we can cover him if he gets injured

özil gets injured (he plays on the wing) = di maria
kaka gets injured = özil and benz can play AM

so we are ok depth wise. kaka deserves to start the way hes playing, he is carrying our team alone on this bad form

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Post by hrealmadrid on Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:40 am

Kaka hasn't been playing THAT well
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Post by estrella bernabeu on Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:33 am

@hrealmadrid wrote:Kaka hasn't been playing THAT well

Much better and classier than Dive Maria or Coentrao !! Statiscs speak of him, 2 games as starter and 2 epic wins !! Not a coincidence hmm

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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:12 am

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Post by Don't call me James on Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:30 am

Benz can't just loose his spot because of injury....not fair
But same thing happened to higgy when he got injured....
I say bench Cristiano
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Post by alexander mahone on Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:57 am

Everyone will compete week in, week out.

[quote="omarish“] kaka deserves to start the way hes playing, he is carrying our team alone on this bad form[/quote]

He's been pretty convincing so far, but carrying the team alone? Lol. When?
When starting with Di Maria, Coentrao, and Benzema againts Levante, all three of them created more than Kaka in the first half when we're still 11 vs 11, while Kaka missed the chances they created. Then he did nothing in second half until got substituted.
Againts Rayo & Ajax, he was key player, but I can argue Ronaldo & Ozil played more important roles than him.
Againts Espanyol, Higuain and Ronaldo were more important.
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Post by Shamirr on Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:23 am

I see no problem with Maria/Kaka and Benz fighting for the remaining spot if Higgy hit's his stride...

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Post by Le Samourai on Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:27 am

@Shamirr wrote:I see no problem with Maria/Kaka and Benz fighting for the remaining spot if Higgy hit's his stride...

If benz and Kaka hit top form Higuain has to go to the bench, even if he as well is in top form, but that's unlikely.

On another note , I've been hoping for something like this for a while now.

.........Khedira...............Alonso...
...................Ozil.....................
...............Benz...................Ronaldo.
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Higuain..............

Improvements can only really truly happen when Ronaldo accepts that he has lost basically every ounce of wing skill he once had and decides to move to CF.

Or

We sell him.


But I can only dream.

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Post by StevieRayVaughan on Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:23 pm

ragbirjosh wrote:
@Shamirr wrote:I see no problem with Maria/Kaka and Benz fighting for the remaining spot if Higgy hit's his stride...

If benz and Kaka hit top form Higuain has to go to the bench, even if he as well is in top form, but that's unlikely.

On another note , I've been hoping for something like this for a while now.

.........Khedira...............Alonso...
...................Ozil.....................
...............Benz...................Ronaldo.
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Higuain..............

Improvements can only really truly happen when Ronaldo accepts that he has lost basically every ounce of wing skill he once had and decides to move to CF.

Or

We sell him.


But I can only dream.


Yes please sell Ronaldo. Its seems funny to me that you guys think he can be replaced, just like that. I promise you if you sell Ronaldo today, you will finish at least 15/20 points behind Barca ( considering barca maintain their usual form).

You guys just take such a great player for granted. Ronaldo at the wing ( currently) is still better than any other Real madrid player on the wing.

Who will do a better job? If you honestly think Benz can take over Ronaldo's position comfortably, then you have no idea how wrong you are.

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Post by Adit on Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:47 pm

Agreed hendrix

For some reasons some here thinks we can easily replace him and he is the one that ruin team play which is complete BS for me.

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Post by skali on Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:34 pm

Ronaldo has been a vital part of virtually every threatening attack we unleashed, and is a joint top assister at the moment. I consider him to be our best player by far.

The only dent he has are the moments of old selfishness when he takes a shot from a poor position, but he is nowhere near being selfish (again, top assister top playmaker in team at the moment - Ozil is the only one who may be better in this aspect, but CR trumps both Ozil and Kaka in terms of individual ability).
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Post by EarlyPrototype on Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:43 pm

I like our current line up with Di Maria on the bench and Kaka starting. I prefer Benz over Higgy tbh, but Benz really needs to adapt to that 9 role. Higgy is a lethal finisher that will finish off what Kaka and Ozil create. We would have much more control with Benz, Kaka and Ozil.
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Post by Doc on Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:05 pm

So...we bench Benzema yet?

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Post by futbol_bill on Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:39 pm

@alexander mahone wrote:Everyone will compete week in, week out.

[quote="omarish“] kaka deserves to start the way hes playing, he is carrying our team alone on this bad form

He's been pretty convincing so far, but carrying the team alone? Lol. When?
When starting with Di Maria, Coentrao, and Benzema againts Levante, all three of them created more than Kaka in the first half when we're still 11 vs 11, while Kaka missed the chances they created. Then he did nothing in second half until got substituted.
Againts Rayo & Ajax, he was key player, but I can argue Ronaldo & Ozil played more important roles than him.
Againts Espanyol, Higuain and Ronaldo were more important. [/quote]

It's not that Kaka is carrying team. It's he is playing well and the Kaka / Ozil combination is making up for the lack of a true MF partner for Alonso. As long as Sahin is out, this is our best combination (if Kaka can stay healthly, fit and in form). For a rotation I would put Benz on wing with Higgy at CF and Ozil at CAM.
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Post by futbol_bill on Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:50 pm

Mr.Hendrix wrote:

Yes please sell Ronaldo. Its seems funny to me that you guys think he can be replaced, just like that. I promise you if you sell Ronaldo today, you will finish at least 15/20 points behind Barca ( considering barca maintain their usual form).

You guys just take such a great player for granted. Ronaldo at the wing ( currently) is still better than any other Real madrid player on the wing.

Who will do a better job? If you honestly think Benz can take over Ronaldo's position comfortably, then you have no idea how wrong you are.

Oh, I agree, CR7 is a selfish arrogant player, but he also is the best player on team and gets 50% of our goals. He could however be substituted occasionally which may help tone him down a bit. Problem is the the coach has the same character traits so he thinks it's OK.
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Post by Zealous on Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:41 pm

He's more than OK bill he's f*cking fantastic.

Our best player by miles and frankly if he continues to play this way until the end of the season I'll be more than happy with him.

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Post by Zealous on Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:43 pm

ragbirjosh wrote:
@Shamirr wrote:I see no problem with Maria/Kaka and Benz fighting for the remaining spot if Higgy hit's his stride...

If benz and Kaka hit top form Higuain has to go to the bench, even if he as well is in top form, but that's unlikely.

On another note , I've been hoping for something like this for a while now.

.........Khedira...............Alonso...
...................Ozil.....................
...............Benz...................Ronaldo.
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Higuain..............

Improvements can only really truly happen when Ronaldo accepts that he has lost basically every ounce of wing skill he once had and decides to move to CF.

Or

We sell him.


But I can only dream.

I could agree with this post but then we'd both be drop dead wrong.

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Post by Onyx on Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:51 pm

I don't think Benzema dropping deep is a problem. Messi drops deep and becomes a playmaker too.

However Barca have Pedro in the attack too so we need to bench Di Maria for a goalscorer.

I think Benzema and Higuain can play together.
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Post by hrealmadrid on Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:58 pm

I think we need to rotate these four, two at a time

Benz
Higuain
Kaka
Di Maria
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Post by Le Samourai on Thu Oct 06, 2011 4:17 am

@Zealous wrote:
ragbirjosh wrote:
@Shamirr wrote:I see no problem with Maria/Kaka and Benz fighting for the remaining spot if Higgy hit's his stride...

If benz and Kaka hit top form Higuain has to go to the bench, even if he as well is in top form, but that's unlikely.

On another note , I've been hoping for something like this for a while now.

.........Khedira...............Alonso...
...................Ozil.....................
...............Benz...................Ronaldo.
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Higuain..............

Improvements can only really truly happen when Ronaldo accepts that he has lost basically every ounce of wing skill he once had and decides to move to CF.

Or

We sell him.


But I can only dream.

I could agree with this post but then we'd both be drop dead wrong.

The sell him part is my personal bias.But other than that do you disagree?

His wingplay has drastically declined while his positioning and goal scoring instincts have heightened.Natural move would be to CF.

As it is he is occuying a creative space on the pitch that would suit Kaka/Benz/Ozil. TBH even Di Maria is better than him as a natural winger atm.

As my personal bias kicks in though I realise even with that move I would not be happy since Higuain would be buried on the bench..............so life goes.


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Post by Shamirr on Thu Oct 06, 2011 5:46 am

Benz at his best deserves a spot above Di Maria OR kaka (kaka only because he will prolly never get back to his absolute best, if by some miracle he does then we will truly be very scary) a front 3 of Higgy/ Benz and CR7 would suit us quite well...

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Post by Zealous on Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:54 am

ragbirjosh wrote:
@Zealous wrote:
ragbirjosh wrote:
@Shamirr wrote:I see no problem with Maria/Kaka and Benz fighting for the remaining spot if Higgy hit's his stride...

If benz and Kaka hit top form Higuain has to go to the bench, even if he as well is in top form, but that's unlikely.

On another note , I've been hoping for something like this for a while now.

.........Khedira...............Alonso...
...................Ozil.....................
...............Benz...................Ronaldo.
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Higuain..............

Improvements can only really truly happen when Ronaldo accepts that he has lost basically every ounce of wing skill he once had and decides to move to CF.

Or

We sell him.


But I can only dream.

I could agree with this post but then we'd both be drop dead wrong.

The sell him part is my personal bias.But other than that do you disagree?

His wingplay has drastically declined while his positioning and goal scoring instincts have heightened.Natural move would be to CF.

As it is he is occuying a creative space on the pitch that would suit Kaka/Benz/Ozil. TBH even Di Maria is better than him as a natural winger atm.

As my personal bias kicks in though I realise even with that move I would not be happy since Higuain would be buried on the bench..............so life goes.


Your entire Argument falls apart when you look at the number of chances Ronaldo has created for himself and for others (shots on target/assist to shot and or goal).

Stop making the most complete player in the game sound like some no name scrub who is lucky to play for us.

Ronaldo is this club's most prized possession and I'm not talking about shirt sales here. Two more seasons with +35 goals and a couple of important trophies and he'll be up there with Raul and Don Alfredo. I'm not even exaggerating.

Look at his numbers, they are absolutely f*cking insane.If he has another 40+ goal season and we win the CL and/or the league I'm going to post a bio about him in the Real Madrid legends thread that's on the top of this board.

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Post by futbol_bill on Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:57 pm

Keep in mind that this wing position, you are arguing about (di Maria, Benz, Kaka) will be Neymar next year.
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Post by LeVersacci on Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:38 pm

One forward will leave next year?

Kaka or Di Maria?
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Post by futbol_bill on Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:13 pm

Anti-DNA wrote:One forward will leave next year?

Kaka or Di Maria?

Almost for certain it's Kaka, but that still leaves di Maria on bench and probably prohibits Benz playing along side Higgy.
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