Why isn't anyone buying Leandro Damiao in the Window?????

Ganso wrote:when i mean fast i meant walcott,pato type of fast,benz,higuain and damiao have around the same speed

Walcott and Pato are exceptions, not many players in the world have godly speed like them.

Damiao is not fast as Higuain.

Yeah..Damiao is nowhere near as fast as Higuain or Benz.

Don't think he, as well as many other brazilian youngsters, will leave before the Libertadores.

i think he would fit best at napoli.

dnmac4 wrote:

EarlyPrototype wrote:Liverpool are being linked with Bent. I would take Bent over Damiao. If they don't get him then yeh they should go for him, but that means they have given up on Carrol.

Chelsea could use him tbh, but Milan don't need him since Tevez > Damiao even though they are different players.


Sadly Newcastle can't afford him though Ba and Damiao would be sexy.

I really like Bent a lot, but Damiao IMO is a better player. He has more talent then Bent and his cealing is way way higher plus he is a lot younger.

As for Tevez and Milan. Give me Damiao over Tevez every day of the week, You have no clue what your getting from Tevez and IMO his best days are behind him. Plus he can't stay anywhere for more then 2 years and will be a total headache after year 1 no matter what. His risk/reward just isn't worth it IMO, but to be fair I am very hard on Tevez as I think he is an idiot and a cancer.

Bent with BA would be out of control. They would terrorize the EPL as Damiao is a very good passer in the final third as well.

As for someone calling him a poacher, LOL. Now I know you haven't seen him play much. The guy is so much more then that. He is VERY fast, can pass in the final third, his dribbling is great for a front man, and he is very creative, plus he has a hell of a header.

you're taking this tevez thing way too far, fcks sake 8 months ago he was joint top scorer of the EPL. He's in a his prime. Tevez >>>>>>>>> Damiao all day long, Damiao could score 20 goals at most in his first season in Europe.

Ganso wrote:when i mean fast i meant walcott,pato type of fast,benz,higuain and damiao have around the same speed

Pipita is extremely fast, if you remember before his back injury he had some pace on him, while Benz is fatter and slower

EarlyPrototype wrote:

windkick wrote:Spurs

EarlyPrototype wrote:Tottenham wanted him before they got Ade, but his price was too high.

I don't see why they would replace him.

The teams that could afford him don't really need him.

Spurs should get him in the event Adebayor doesnt stay after his loan

Would be a stupid from Ade because he is not going to find a better club.
If he goes then Damiao would be good for Spurs.

seriously, just yesterday i was playing fifa 12 online with spurs and thinking "ade's good, but spurs need a higher class striker to match the rest of the team, but who"? And today, boom. Damiao, he'd be great. Perfect fit it would seem like.

barca 2011 wrote:

EarlyPrototype wrote:

windkick wrote:Spurs

EarlyPrototype wrote:Tottenham wanted him before they got Ade, but his price was too high.

I don't see why they would replace him.

The teams that could afford him don't really need him.

Spurs should get him in the event Adebayor doesnt stay after his loan

Would be a stupid from Ade because he is not going to find a better club.
If he goes then Damiao would be good for Spurs.

seriously, just yesterday i was playing fifa 12 online with spurs and thinking "ade's good, but spurs need a higher class striker to match the rest of the team, but who"? And today, boom. Damiao, he'd be great. Perfect fit it would seem like.

Adebayor has been great for Spurs, he is easily one of the biggest reason why Spurs are in the position they are.

Blue wrote:

barca 2011 wrote:

EarlyPrototype wrote:

windkick wrote:Spurs

EarlyPrototype wrote:Tottenham wanted him before they got Ade, but his price was too high.

I don't see why they would replace him.

The teams that could afford him don't really need him.

Spurs should get him in the event Adebayor doesnt stay after his loan

Would be a stupid from Ade because he is not going to find a better club.
If he goes then Damiao would be good for Spurs.

seriously, just yesterday i was playing fifa 12 online with spurs and thinking "ade's good, but spurs need a higher class striker to match the rest of the team, but who"? And today, boom. Damiao, he'd be great. Perfect fit it would seem like.

Adebayor has been great for Spurs, he is easily one of the biggest reason why Spurs are in the position they are.

Well im not saying get rid of Ade, just get Damiao as well. I think i made it sound like they should get rid of him, my bad. not what i meant.

Ganso wrote:higuain and benz arent fast either

Benzema is alot faster sprinting then you'd think trust me. He had back problems last season which hindered his speed
And LOL LM@ i see what u did there

Actually, LM is right. Higuain used to be really fast, but since his injury his speed has been toned down abit.

Benzema is not slow but he is not the fastest. He is a pure skill player, doesn't really rely on his pace anyway

I don't know about pure skill, he's quite strong as well

Lionel Messi wrote:

dnmac4 wrote:

EarlyPrototype wrote:Liverpool are being linked with Bent. I would take Bent over Damiao. If they don't get him then yeh they should go for him, but that means they have given up on Carrol.

Chelsea could use him tbh, but Milan don't need him since Tevez > Damiao even though they are different players.


Sadly Newcastle can't afford him though Ba and Damiao would be sexy.

I really like Bent a lot, but Damiao IMO is a better player. He has more talent then Bent and his cealing is way way higher plus he is a lot younger.

As for Tevez and Milan. Give me Damiao over Tevez every day of the week, You have no clue what your getting from Tevez and IMO his best days are behind him. Plus he can't stay anywhere for more then 2 years and will be a total headache after year 1 no matter what. His risk/reward just isn't worth it IMO, but to be fair I am very hard on Tevez as I think he is an idiot and a cancer.

Bent with BA would be out of control. They would terrorize the EPL as Damiao is a very good passer in the final third as well.

As for someone calling him a poacher, LOL. Now I know you haven't seen him play much. The guy is so much more then that. He is VERY fast, can pass in the final third, his dribbling is great for a front man, and he is very creative, plus he has a hell of a header.

you're taking this tevez thing way too far, fcks sake 8 months ago he was joint top scorer of the EPL. He's in a his prime. Tevez >>>>>>>>> Damiao all day long, Damiao could score 20 goals at most in his first season in Europe.

I can see why you would say that but first of all I think Damiao walks into any league as long as he's on a good team and starts scoring goals at a good clip right away. I don't think he's capped at 20 goals if he plays in 40 games which would mean he's a starter at all.

Physically and maturity wise he is ready to go, I don't think he needs much adjustment time at all, I mean he went over to Europe in the Summer and ripped it apart. I know it was pre season but it was also against Barca and Milan.

As for Tevez, you have no clue what your getting from him. Why do you think only 2 or 3 teams want him and really only on a loan? Last time he played at Copa America he was AWFUL, just TERRIBLE.

He's gonna be out of shape with a terrible attitude and expect to start right away. Not to mention no matter where he is, in year two you can forget it, he's done and is a cancer. How many times does he need to prove this for people to realize it's a trend not an exception.

dnmac4 wrote:

Lionel Messi wrote:

dnmac4 wrote:

EarlyPrototype wrote:Liverpool are being linked with Bent. I would take Bent over Damiao. If they don't get him then yeh they should go for him, but that means they have given up on Carrol.

Chelsea could use him tbh, but Milan don't need him since Tevez > Damiao even though they are different players.


Sadly Newcastle can't afford him though Ba and Damiao would be sexy.

I really like Bent a lot, but Damiao IMO is a better player. He has more talent then Bent and his cealing is way way higher plus he is a lot younger.

As for Tevez and Milan. Give me Damiao over Tevez every day of the week, You have no clue what your getting from Tevez and IMO his best days are behind him. Plus he can't stay anywhere for more then 2 years and will be a total headache after year 1 no matter what. His risk/reward just isn't worth it IMO, but to be fair I am very hard on Tevez as I think he is an idiot and a cancer.

Bent with BA would be out of control. They would terrorize the EPL as Damiao is a very good passer in the final third as well.

As for someone calling him a poacher, LOL. Now I know you haven't seen him play much. The guy is so much more then that. He is VERY fast, can pass in the final third, his dribbling is great for a front man, and he is very creative, plus he has a hell of a header.

you're taking this tevez thing way too far, fcks sake 8 months ago he was joint top scorer of the EPL. He's in a his prime. Tevez >>>>>>>>> Damiao all day long, Damiao could score 20 goals at most in his first season in Europe.

I can see why you would say that but first of all I think Damiao walks into any league as long as he's on a good team and starts scoring goals at a good clip right away. I don't think he's capped at 20 goals if he plays in 40 games which would mean he's a starter at all.

Physically and maturity wise he is ready to go, I don't think he needs much adjustment time at all, I mean he went over to Europe in the Summer and ripped it apart. I know it was pre season but it was also against Barca and Milan.

As for Tevez, you have no clue what your getting from him. Why do you think only 2 or 3 teams want him and really only on a loan? Last time he played at Copa America he was AWFUL, just TERRIBLE.

He's gonna be out of shape with a terrible attitude and expect to start right away. Not to mention no matter where he is, in year two you can forget it, he's done and is a cancer. How many times does he need to prove this for people to realize it's a trend not an exception.

2-3 teams want him on loan because
1. He costs almost a fortune.
2. His disciplinary problems.

Plus, Marwood of City has already confirmed more than 3 teams desire his services.

Copa America? I assume you support Argentina right? This team was lead by the greaseball Batista who is possibly one of the worst tacticians to ever step foot for the managerial job. His naive tactics (or complete lack thereof) were the demise of every player within the team as Lavezzi, Higuian, Pastore, Banega, Di Maria, and to some extent, Kun Aguero and Messi all had poor performances. They ALL looked a shadow of themselves and I don't really blame them for that.

As for him being finished, is there any clear indication that actually leads to this conclusion? Besides scoring 54 goals in the last 2 years for his club?

If he DIDN'T piss of the City fans I am 100% sure he would be picked by the fans and Mancini over all their forwards as thats how good he was for them.

As for his disciplinary problems this was common in Manchester City considering the clash of egos and general disputes that occurred repeatedly the years before this season due to poor mis-management of players and other factors.

While I do agree he is a livewire I am 100% sure Milan when they acquire him will able to successfully tame Tevez. Why? If you want to know further on this I will gladly explain.

As for his fitness I guess you don't know he has been training but only separately as his agent has confirmed his more intense training sessions to prepare for his next club and has been doing so for 2 months. Only thing he lacks now is match experience after his long period out.

OT: Damiao is a terrific striker and is the only true 9 for Brazil. While I am happy about the incoming Tevez deal, this is the man I've always wanted Milan to invest in as he to me is the true replacement for when Ibra gets tired and old.

Brasil league eh?

Arquitecto wrote:

dnmac4 wrote:

Lionel Messi wrote:

dnmac4 wrote:

EarlyPrototype wrote:Liverpool are being linked with Bent. I would take Bent over Damiao. If they don't get him then yeh they should go for him, but that means they have given up on Carrol.

Chelsea could use him tbh, but Milan don't need him since Tevez > Damiao even though they are different players.


Sadly Newcastle can't afford him though Ba and Damiao would be sexy.

I really like Bent a lot, but Damiao IMO is a better player. He has more talent then Bent and his cealing is way way higher plus he is a lot younger.

As for Tevez and Milan. Give me Damiao over Tevez every day of the week, You have no clue what your getting from Tevez and IMO his best days are behind him. Plus he can't stay anywhere for more then 2 years and will be a total headache after year 1 no matter what. His risk/reward just isn't worth it IMO, but to be fair I am very hard on Tevez as I think he is an idiot and a cancer.

Bent with BA would be out of control. They would terrorize the EPL as Damiao is a very good passer in the final third as well.

As for someone calling him a poacher, LOL. Now I know you haven't seen him play much. The guy is so much more then that. He is VERY fast, can pass in the final third, his dribbling is great for a front man, and he is very creative, plus he has a hell of a header.

you're taking this tevez thing way too far, fcks sake 8 months ago he was joint top scorer of the EPL. He's in a his prime. Tevez >>>>>>>>> Damiao all day long, Damiao could score 20 goals at most in his first season in Europe.

I can see why you would say that but first of all I think Damiao walks into any league as long as he's on a good team and starts scoring goals at a good clip right away. I don't think he's capped at 20 goals if he plays in 40 games which would mean he's a starter at all.

Physically and maturity wise he is ready to go, I don't think he needs much adjustment time at all, I mean he went over to Europe in the Summer and ripped it apart. I know it was pre season but it was also against Barca and Milan.

As for Tevez, you have no clue what your getting from him. Why do you think only 2 or 3 teams want him and really only on a loan? Last time he played at Copa America he was AWFUL, just TERRIBLE.

He's gonna be out of shape with a terrible attitude and expect to start right away. Not to mention no matter where he is, in year two you can forget it, he's done and is a cancer. How many times does he need to prove this for people to realize it's a trend not an exception.

2-3 teams want him on loan because
1. He costs almost a fortune.
2. His disciplinary problems.

Plus, Marwood of City has already confirmed more than 3 teams desire his services.

Copa America? I assume you support Argentina right? This team was lead by the greaseball Batista who is possibly one of the worst tacticians to ever step foot for the managerial job. His naive tactics (or complete lack thereof) were the demise of every player within the team as Lavezzi, Higuian, Pastore, Banega, Di Maria, and to some extent, Kun Aguero and Messi all had poor performances. They ALL looked a shadow of themselves and I don't really blame them for that.

As for him being finished, is there any clear indication that actually leads to this conclusion? Besides scoring 54 goals in the last 2 years for his club?

If he DIDN'T piss of the City fans I am 100% sure he would be picked by the fans and Mancini over all their forwards as thats how good he was for them.

As for his disciplinary problems this was common in Manchester City considering the clash of egos and general disputes that occurred repeatedly the years before this season due to poor mis-management of players and other factors.

While I do agree he is a livewire I am 100% sure Milan when they acquire him will able to successfully tame Tevez. Why? If you want to know further on this I will gladly explain.

As for his fitness I guess you don't know he has been training but only separately as his agent has confirmed his more intense training sessions to prepare for his next club and has been doing so for 2 months. Only thing he lacks now is match experience after his long period out.

OT: Damiao is a terrific striker and is the only true 9 for Brazil. While I am happy about the incoming Tevez deal, this is the man I've always wanted Milan to invest in as he to me is the true replacement for when Ibra gets tired and old.

OK, let me answer the piece by piece.

First of all for Tevez's fitness he was out of shape at the Copa and he hasn't played in 8 months of course he is going to be totally out of game shape so if you think your going to get vintage Tevez for the second half of this season, IT's just not going to happen. I don't care how much he is training, you can't get in game shape like that.

Second, As for the whole team being bad in the Copa, there is truth to that but Tevez just look awful. He cost them games all by him self and couldn't even convert penalty kicks. I mean he was really really bad and not bad from a sense that he's being played out of position or not farmiliar with what the coach wants like the rest of the Argentina team, he just looked like he gave up.

OF course he costs a fortune, he's a top class striker when everything is right. So does Hulk, Benz, Higgy, etc etc. I can guarantee you if Hulk was available for the 25 mill or so that City want for him teams would not be doing this loan crap and they would snatch him up right away and the same goes for BEnz and Higgy etc etc.

Teams know they have no clue what he is anymore and he is just as likely (probably more) to wreck your team then lead them in goals. So they want to try him out before they buy and City wont give them that luxuary because they know what he has become.

As for Milan being able to tame him, you have no proof of that. City paid him a kings ransom and treated him with kid gloves and he found reasons to think he was being treated badly, and he can always pull the homesick card again. SAF, and Mancini havn't been able to so to say someone else will is just guessing and IMO it's not the correct guess.

dnmac4 wrote:

Arquitecto wrote:

dnmac4 wrote:

Lionel Messi wrote:

dnmac4 wrote:

EarlyPrototype wrote:Liverpool are being linked with Bent. I would take Bent over Damiao. If they don't get him then yeh they should go for him, but that means they have given up on Carrol.

Chelsea could use him tbh, but Milan don't need him since Tevez > Damiao even though they are different players.


Sadly Newcastle can't afford him though Ba and Damiao would be sexy.

I really like Bent a lot, but Damiao IMO is a better player. He has more talent then Bent and his cealing is way way higher plus he is a lot younger.

As for Tevez and Milan. Give me Damiao over Tevez every day of the week, You have no clue what your getting from Tevez and IMO his best days are behind him. Plus he can't stay anywhere for more then 2 years and will be a total headache after year 1 no matter what. His risk/reward just isn't worth it IMO, but to be fair I am very hard on Tevez as I think he is an idiot and a cancer.

Bent with BA would be out of control. They would terrorize the EPL as Damiao is a very good passer in the final third as well.

As for someone calling him a poacher, LOL. Now I know you haven't seen him play much. The guy is so much more then that. He is VERY fast, can pass in the final third, his dribbling is great for a front man, and he is very creative, plus he has a hell of a header.

you're taking this tevez thing way too far, fcks sake 8 months ago he was joint top scorer of the EPL. He's in a his prime. Tevez >>>>>>>>> Damiao all day long, Damiao could score 20 goals at most in his first season in Europe.

I can see why you would say that but first of all I think Damiao walks into any league as long as he's on a good team and starts scoring goals at a good clip right away. I don't think he's capped at 20 goals if he plays in 40 games which would mean he's a starter at all.

Physically and maturity wise he is ready to go, I don't think he needs much adjustment time at all, I mean he went over to Europe in the Summer and ripped it apart. I know it was pre season but it was also against Barca and Milan.

As for Tevez, you have no clue what your getting from him. Why do you think only 2 or 3 teams want him and really only on a loan? Last time he played at Copa America he was AWFUL, just TERRIBLE.

He's gonna be out of shape with a terrible attitude and expect to start right away. Not to mention no matter where he is, in year two you can forget it, he's done and is a cancer. How many times does he need to prove this for people to realize it's a trend not an exception.

2-3 teams want him on loan because
1. He costs almost a fortune.
2. His disciplinary problems.

Plus, Marwood of City has already confirmed more than 3 teams desire his services.

Copa America? I assume you support Argentina right? This team was lead by the greaseball Batista who is possibly one of the worst tacticians to ever step foot for the managerial job. His naive tactics (or complete lack thereof) were the demise of every player within the team as Lavezzi, Higuian, Pastore, Banega, Di Maria, and to some extent, Kun Aguero and Messi all had poor performances. They ALL looked a shadow of themselves and I don't really blame them for that.

As for him being finished, is there any clear indication that actually leads to this conclusion? Besides scoring 54 goals in the last 2 years for his club?

If he DIDN'T piss of the City fans I am 100% sure he would be picked by the fans and Mancini over all their forwards as thats how good he was for them.

As for his disciplinary problems this was common in Manchester City considering the clash of egos and general disputes that occurred repeatedly the years before this season due to poor mis-management of players and other factors.

While I do agree he is a livewire I am 100% sure Milan when they acquire him will able to successfully tame Tevez. Why? If you want to know further on this I will gladly explain.

As for his fitness I guess you don't know he has been training but only separately as his agent has confirmed his more intense training sessions to prepare for his next club and has been doing so for 2 months. Only thing he lacks now is match experience after his long period out.

OT: Damiao is a terrific striker and is the only true 9 for Brazil. While I am happy about the incoming Tevez deal, this is the man I've always wanted Milan to invest in as he to me is the true replacement for when Ibra gets tired and old.

OK, let me answer the piece by piece.

First of all for Tevez's fitness he was out of shape at the Copa and he hasn't played in 8 months of course he is going to be totally out of game shape so if you think your going to get vintage Tevez for the second half of this season, IT's just not going to happen. I don't care how much he is training, you can't get in game shape like that.

Second, As for the whole team being bad in the Copa, there is truth to that but Tevez just look awful. He cost them games all by him self and couldn't even convert penalty kicks. I mean he was really really bad and not bad from a sense that he's being played out of position or not farmiliar with what the coach wants like the rest of the Argentina team, he just looked like he gave up.

OF course he costs a fortune, he's a top class striker when everything is right. So does Hulk, Benz, Higgy, etc etc. I can guarantee you if Hulk was available for the 25 mill or so that City want for him teams would not be doing this loan crap and they would snatch him up right away and the same goes for BEnz and Higgy etc etc.

Teams know they have no clue what he is anymore and he is just as likely (probably more) to wreck your team then lead them in goals. So they want to try him out before they buy and City wont give them that luxuary because they know what he has become.

As for Milan being able to tame him, you have no proof of that. City paid him a kings ransom and treated him with kid gloves and he found reasons to think he was being treated badly, and he can always pull the homesick card again. SAF, and Mancini havn't been able to so to say someone else will is just guessing and IMO it's not the correct guess.

dnmac4 wrote:

Arquitecto wrote:

dnmac4 wrote:

Lionel Messi wrote:

dnmac4 wrote:

EarlyPrototype wrote:Liverpool are being linked with Bent. I would take Bent over Damiao. If they don't get him then yeh they should go for him, but that means they have given up on Carrol.

Chelsea could use him tbh, but Milan don't need him since Tevez > Damiao even though they are different players.


Sadly Newcastle can't afford him though Ba and Damiao would be sexy.

I really like Bent a lot, but Damiao IMO is a better player. He has more talent then Bent and his cealing is way way higher plus he is a lot younger.

As for Tevez and Milan. Give me Damiao over Tevez every day of the week, You have no clue what your getting from Tevez and IMO his best days are behind him. Plus he can't stay anywhere for more then 2 years and will be a total headache after year 1 no matter what. His risk/reward just isn't worth it IMO, but to be fair I am very hard on Tevez as I think he is an idiot and a cancer.

Bent with BA would be out of control. They would terrorize the EPL as Damiao is a very good passer in the final third as well.

As for someone calling him a poacher, LOL. Now I know you haven't seen him play much. The guy is so much more then that. He is VERY fast, can pass in the final third, his dribbling is great for a front man, and he is very creative, plus he has a hell of a header.

you're taking this tevez thing way too far, fcks sake 8 months ago he was joint top scorer of the EPL. He's in a his prime. Tevez >>>>>>>>> Damiao all day long, Damiao could score 20 goals at most in his first season in Europe.

I can see why you would say that but first of all I think Damiao walks into any league as long as he's on a good team and starts scoring goals at a good clip right away. I don't think he's capped at 20 goals if he plays in 40 games which would mean he's a starter at all.

Physically and maturity wise he is ready to go, I don't think he needs much adjustment time at all, I mean he went over to Europe in the Summer and ripped it apart. I know it was pre season but it was also against Barca and Milan.

As for Tevez, you have no clue what your getting from him. Why do you think only 2 or 3 teams want him and really only on a loan? Last time he played at Copa America he was AWFUL, just TERRIBLE.

He's gonna be out of shape with a terrible attitude and expect to start right away. Not to mention no matter where he is, in year two you can forget it, he's done and is a cancer. How many times does he need to prove this for people to realize it's a trend not an exception.

2-3 teams want him on loan because
1. He costs almost a fortune.
2. His disciplinary problems.

Plus, Marwood of City has already confirmed more than 3 teams desire his services.

Copa America? I assume you support Argentina right? This team was lead by the greaseball Batista who is possibly one of the worst tacticians to ever step foot for the managerial job. His naive tactics (or complete lack thereof) were the demise of every player within the team as Lavezzi, Higuian, Pastore, Banega, Di Maria, and to some extent, Kun Aguero and Messi all had poor performances. They ALL looked a shadow of themselves and I don't really blame them for that.

As for him being finished, is there any clear indication that actually leads to this conclusion? Besides scoring 54 goals in the last 2 years for his club?

If he DIDN'T piss of the City fans I am 100% sure he would be picked by the fans and Mancini over all their forwards as thats how good he was for them.

As for his disciplinary problems this was common in Manchester City considering the clash of egos and general disputes that occurred repeatedly the years before this season due to poor mis-management of players and other factors.

While I do agree he is a livewire I am 100% sure Milan when they acquire him will able to successfully tame Tevez. Why? If you want to know further on this I will gladly explain.

As for his fitness I guess you don't know he has been training but only separately as his agent has confirmed his more intense training sessions to prepare for his next club and has been doing so for 2 months. Only thing he lacks now is match experience after his long period out.

OT: Damiao is a terrific striker and is the only true 9 for Brazil. While I am happy about the incoming Tevez deal, this is the man I've always wanted Milan to invest in as he to me is the true replacement for when Ibra gets tired and old.

OK, let me answer the piece by piece.

First of all for Tevez's fitness he was out of shape at the Copa and he hasn't played in 8 months of course he is going to be totally out of game shape so if you think your going to get vintage Tevez for the second half of this season, IT's just not going to happen. I don't care how much he is training, you can't get in game shape like that.

Second, As for the whole team being bad in the Copa, there is truth to that but Tevez just look awful. He cost them games all by him self and couldn't even convert penalty kicks. I mean he was really really bad and not bad from a sense that he's being played out of position or not farmiliar with what the coach wants like the rest of the Argentina team, he just looked like he gave up.

OF course he costs a fortune, he's a top class striker when everything is right. So does Hulk, Benz, Higgy, etc etc. I can guarantee you if Hulk was available for the 25 mill or so that City want for him teams would not be doing this loan crap and they would snatch him up right away and the same goes for BEnz and Higgy etc etc.

Teams know they have no clue what he is anymore and he is just as likely (probably more) to wreck your team then lead them in goals. So they want to try him out before they buy and City wont give them that luxuary because they know what he has become.

As for Milan being able to tame him, you have no proof of that. City paid him a kings ransom and treated him with kid gloves and he found reasons to think he was being treated badly, and he can always pull the homesick card again. SAF, and Mancini havn't been able to so to say someone else will is just guessing and IMO it's not the correct guess.

Your judging him from a tournament that took place within July as since his return to the season with Man City, he has been training there ever since and even made 3 full appearance with City and displayed his usual intensity and fitness. He may be short on match fitness, but every common athlete knows that physical fitness takes FAR longer to gain than match fitness which is more psychologically measured. Tevez by the words of Mancini and his agent had already been confirmed fit to play yet did not only due to his disciplinary problems. Most recent example of this factor is Antonio Cassano.

Your naming strikers who are younger than him as of course clubs would have more incentive to buy him. You also forgot that clubs wont go for him because of his attitude. Hulk, Benz and Higgy do not have that problem.

No proof for Milan? Ibrahimovic, Robinho, KPB, Mexes, and of course Cassano who makes Tevez look like a saint. All egos and badboys who now work only for the team, keep their head down and respect their manager and badge.

The difference in Man City and Milan in pedigree and handling players is a MASSIVE GAP. Every player who arrives in Milanello, meets it staff, meets large amount of pure leaders and champions along with the calm but disciplinarian manager that is Allegri, instantly feels at home along with their rapport and motivation to win for the team as I never have heard that from City players. Thats pedigree, thats prestiege, decades of philosophy and principle within a club thats serves its players and something City cannot buy and will never have. Milan have been KNOWN to always tame personalities like this and it isn't anything new.

Ferguson and United? Since when did he face disciplinary problems there? Even if he fell out with Ferguson, the manager isn't exactly known to handle big personalities well as frankly I find him quite poor in that given his recent track record in this respect.

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EarlyPrototype wrote:Liverpool are being linked with Bent. I would take Bent over Damiao. If they don't get him then yeh they should go for him, but that means they have given up on Carrol.

Chelsea could use him tbh, but Milan don't need him since Tevez > Damiao even though they are different players.


Sadly Newcastle can't afford him though Ba and Damiao would be sexy.

I really like Bent a lot, but Damiao IMO is a better player. He has more talent then Bent and his cealing is way way higher plus he is a lot younger.

As for Tevez and Milan. Give me Damiao over Tevez every day of the week, You have no clue what your getting from Tevez and IMO his best days are behind him. Plus he can't stay anywhere for more then 2 years and will be a total headache after year 1 no matter what. His risk/reward just isn't worth it IMO, but to be fair I am very hard on Tevez as I think he is an idiot and a cancer.

Bent with BA would be out of control. They would terrorize the EPL as Damiao is a very good passer in the final third as well.

As for someone calling him a poacher, LOL. Now I know you haven't seen him play much. The guy is so much more then that. He is VERY fast, can pass in the final third, his dribbling is great for a front man, and he is very creative, plus he has a hell of a header.

you're taking this tevez thing way too far, fcks sake 8 months ago he was joint top scorer of the EPL. He's in a his prime. Tevez >>>>>>>>> Damiao all day long, Damiao could score 20 goals at most in his first season in Europe.

I can see why you would say that but first of all I think Damiao walks into any league as long as he's on a good team and starts scoring goals at a good clip right away. I don't think he's capped at 20 goals if he plays in 40 games which would mean he's a starter at all.

Physically and maturity wise he is ready to go, I don't think he needs much adjustment time at all, I mean he went over to Europe in the Summer and ripped it apart. I know it was pre season but it was also against Barca and Milan.

As for Tevez, you have no clue what your getting from him. Why do you think only 2 or 3 teams want him and really only on a loan? Last time he played at Copa America he was AWFUL, just TERRIBLE.

He's gonna be out of shape with a terrible attitude and expect to start right away. Not to mention no matter where he is, in year two you can forget it, he's done and is a cancer. How many times does he need to prove this for people to realize it's a trend not an exception.

2-3 teams want him on loan because
1. He costs almost a fortune.
2. His disciplinary problems.

Plus, Marwood of City has already confirmed more than 3 teams desire his services.

Copa America? I assume you support Argentina right? This team was lead by the greaseball Batista who is possibly one of the worst tacticians to ever step foot for the managerial job. His naive tactics (or complete lack thereof) were the demise of every player within the team as Lavezzi, Higuian, Pastore, Banega, Di Maria, and to some extent, Kun Aguero and Messi all had poor performances. They ALL looked a shadow of themselves and I don't really blame them for that.

As for him being finished, is there any clear indication that actually leads to this conclusion? Besides scoring 54 goals in the last 2 years for his club?

If he DIDN'T piss of the City fans I am 100% sure he would be picked by the fans and Mancini over all their forwards as thats how good he was for them.

As for his disciplinary problems this was common in Manchester City considering the clash of egos and general disputes that occurred repeatedly the years before this season due to poor mis-management of players and other factors.

While I do agree he is a livewire I am 100% sure Milan when they acquire him will able to successfully tame Tevez. Why? If you want to know further on this I will gladly explain.

As for his fitness I guess you don't know he has been training but only separately as his agent has confirmed his more intense training sessions to prepare for his next club and has been doing so for 2 months. Only thing he lacks now is match experience after his long period out.

OT: Damiao is a terrific striker and is the only true 9 for Brazil. While I am happy about the incoming Tevez deal, this is the man I've always wanted Milan to invest in as he to me is the true replacement for when Ibra gets tired and old.

OK, let me answer the piece by piece.

First of all for Tevez's fitness he was out of shape at the Copa and he hasn't played in 8 months of course he is going to be totally out of game shape so if you think your going to get vintage Tevez for the second half of this season, IT's just not going to happen. I don't care how much he is training, you can't get in game shape like that.

Second, As for the whole team being bad in the Copa, there is truth to that but Tevez just look awful. He cost them games all by him self and couldn't even convert penalty kicks. I mean he was really really bad and not bad from a sense that he's being played out of position or not farmiliar with what the coach wants like the rest of the Argentina team, he just looked like he gave up.

OF course he costs a fortune, he's a top class striker when everything is right. So does Hulk, Benz, Higgy, etc etc. I can guarantee you if Hulk was available for the 25 mill or so that City want for him teams would not be doing this loan crap and they would snatch him up right away and the same goes for BEnz and Higgy etc etc.

Teams know they have no clue what he is anymore and he is just as likely (probably more) to wreck your team then lead them in goals. So they want to try him out before they buy and City wont give them that luxuary because they know what he has become.

As for Milan being able to tame him, you have no proof of that. City paid him a kings ransom and treated him with kid gloves and he found reasons to think he was being treated badly, and he can always pull the homesick card again. SAF, and Mancini havn't been able to so to say someone else will is just guessing and IMO it's not the correct guess.

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Arquitecto wrote:

dnmac4 wrote:

Lionel Messi wrote:

dnmac4 wrote:

EarlyPrototype wrote:Liverpool are being linked with Bent. I would take Bent over Damiao. If they don't get him then yeh they should go for him, but that means they have given up on Carrol.

Chelsea could use him tbh, but Milan don't need him since Tevez > Damiao even though they are different players.


Sadly Newcastle can't afford him though Ba and Damiao would be sexy.

I really like Bent a lot, but Damiao IMO is a better player. He has more talent then Bent and his cealing is way way higher plus he is a lot younger.

As for Tevez and Milan. Give me Damiao over Tevez every day of the week, You have no clue what your getting from Tevez and IMO his best days are behind him. Plus he can't stay anywhere for more then 2 years and will be a total headache after year 1 no matter what. His risk/reward just isn't worth it IMO, but to be fair I am very hard on Tevez as I think he is an idiot and a cancer.

Bent with BA would be out of control. They would terrorize the EPL as Damiao is a very good passer in the final third as well.

As for someone calling him a poacher, LOL. Now I know you haven't seen him play much. The guy is so much more then that. He is VERY fast, can pass in the final third, his dribbling is great for a front man, and he is very creative, plus he has a hell of a header.

you're taking this tevez thing way too far, fcks sake 8 months ago he was joint top scorer of the EPL. He's in a his prime. Tevez >>>>>>>>> Damiao all day long, Damiao could score 20 goals at most in his first season in Europe.

I can see why you would say that but first of all I think Damiao walks into any league as long as he's on a good team and starts scoring goals at a good clip right away. I don't think he's capped at 20 goals if he plays in 40 games which would mean he's a starter at all.

Physically and maturity wise he is ready to go, I don't think he needs much adjustment time at all, I mean he went over to Europe in the Summer and ripped it apart. I know it was pre season but it was also against Barca and Milan.

As for Tevez, you have no clue what your getting from him. Why do you think only 2 or 3 teams want him and really only on a loan? Last time he played at Copa America he was AWFUL, just TERRIBLE.

He's gonna be out of shape with a terrible attitude and expect to start right away. Not to mention no matter where he is, in year two you can forget it, he's done and is a cancer. How many times does he need to prove this for people to realize it's a trend not an exception.

2-3 teams want him on loan because
1. He costs almost a fortune.
2. His disciplinary problems.

Plus, Marwood of City has already confirmed more than 3 teams desire his services.

Copa America? I assume you support Argentina right? This team was lead by the greaseball Batista who is possibly one of the worst tacticians to ever step foot for the managerial job. His naive tactics (or complete lack thereof) were the demise of every player within the team as Lavezzi, Higuian, Pastore, Banega, Di Maria, and to some extent, Kun Aguero and Messi all had poor performances. They ALL looked a shadow of themselves and I don't really blame them for that.

As for him being finished, is there any clear indication that actually leads to this conclusion? Besides scoring 54 goals in the last 2 years for his club?

If he DIDN'T piss of the City fans I am 100% sure he would be picked by the fans and Mancini over all their forwards as thats how good he was for them.

As for his disciplinary problems this was common in Manchester City considering the clash of egos and general disputes that occurred repeatedly the years before this season due to poor mis-management of players and other factors.

While I do agree he is a livewire I am 100% sure Milan when they acquire him will able to successfully tame Tevez. Why? If you want to know further on this I will gladly explain.

As for his fitness I guess you don't know he has been training but only separately as his agent has confirmed his more intense training sessions to prepare for his next club and has been doing so for 2 months. Only thing he lacks now is match experience after his long period out.

OT: Damiao is a terrific striker and is the only true 9 for Brazil. While I am happy about the incoming Tevez deal, this is the man I've always wanted Milan to invest in as he to me is the true replacement for when Ibra gets tired and old.

OK, let me answer the piece by piece.

First of all for Tevez's fitness he was out of shape at the Copa and he hasn't played in 8 months of course he is going to be totally out of game shape so if you think your going to get vintage Tevez for the second half of this season, IT's just not going to happen. I don't care how much he is training, you can't get in game shape like that.

Second, As for the whole team being bad in the Copa, there is truth to that but Tevez just look awful. He cost them games all by him self and couldn't even convert penalty kicks. I mean he was really really bad and not bad from a sense that he's being played out of position or not farmiliar with what the coach wants like the rest of the Argentina team, he just looked like he gave up.

OF course he costs a fortune, he's a top class striker when everything is right. So does Hulk, Benz, Higgy, etc etc. I can guarantee you if Hulk was available for the 25 mill or so that City want for him teams would not be doing this loan crap and they would snatch him up right away and the same goes for BEnz and Higgy etc etc.

Teams know they have no clue what he is anymore and he is just as likely (probably more) to wreck your team then lead them in goals. So they want to try him out before they buy and City wont give them that luxuary because they know what he has become.

As for Milan being able to tame him, you have no proof of that. City paid him a kings ransom and treated him with kid gloves and he found reasons to think he was being treated badly, and he can always pull the homesick card again. SAF, and Mancini havn't been able to so to say someone else will is just guessing and IMO it's not the correct guess.

Your judging him from a tournament that took place within July as since his return to the season with Man City, he has been training there ever since and even made 3 full appearance with City and displayed his usual intensity and fitness. He may be short on match fitness, but every common athlete knows that physical fitness takes FAR longer to gain than match fitness which is more psychologically measured. Tevez by the words of Mancini and his agent had already been confirmed fit to play yet did not only due to his disciplinary problems. Most recent example of this factor is Antonio Cassano.

Your naming strikers who are younger than him as of course clubs would have more incentive to buy him. You also forgot that clubs wont go for him because of his attitude. Hulk, Benz and Higgy do not have that problem.

No proof for Milan? Ibrahimovic, Robinho, KPB, Mexes, and of course Cassano who makes Tevez look like a saint. All egos and badboys who now work only for the team, keep their head down and respect their manager and badge.

The difference in Man City and Milan in pedigree and handling players is a MASSIVE GAP. Every player who arrives in Milanello, meets it staff, meets large amount of pure leaders and champions along with the calm but disciplinarian manager that is Allegri, instantly feels at home along with their rapport and motivation to win for the team as I never have heard that from City players. Thats pedigree, thats prestiege, decades of philosophy and principle within a club thats serves its players and something City cannot buy and will never have. Milan have been KNOWN to always tame personalities like this and it isn't anything new.

Ferguson and United? Since when did he face disciplinary problems there? Even if he fell out with Ferguson, the manager isn't exactly known to handle big personalities well as frankly I find him quite poor in that given his recent track record in this respect.

OK, answer me this. IF teams thought they were buying one of the top strikers in the world why has no one stepped up and offered the 25 million for him? 25 Million is peanuts for a top class striker. I will give you an answer, teams are scared to death of him because they don't know where his skills are and they know he will only be cooperative for a year or two, plus he is totally out of shape.

Like I said before I don't care how much your training, game shape is Totally different and mark my words you will get minimal impact from him this season.

Also, just because others have worked out at Milan does not mean Tevez will. There is tons of history and evidence of older players doing well at United and that didn't mean shit. He still messed that up.

One last thing, give me one reason for Tevez to be unhappy at City? He lived in the red half of the city for years before he asked for the transfer and then suddenly he hated the city when he got to the Blue half? It's the same freaking city, did it take him 4 years to realize people don't speak spanish there and it's cold and rainy. The point is nothing he does makes any sense.

City treated him as well as they could and every offseason they had to hold there breath that he would be with the team the next season. To say Milan can fix that is just a wish IMO as Tevez makes no sense, as he is moving further away from Argentina which was supposed to be the reason for the transfer in the first place.

I'm telling you it's going to be a disaster no matter where he ends up. And that's not even taking into account that he has been talking about wanting to retire soon.

The whole point to the thread in the first place is why would you want to deal with all this when you can get Damiao for the same price or even cheaper?