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Post by guest7 Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:21 pm

Dante13 wrote:
omarish wrote:Ranieri schooled Allegri

http://www.zonalmarking.net/2012/01/15/milan-0-1-inter-inter-sit-deep-and-counter/

Ranieri :bow:

If by schooled you mean , couldn't do anything more than catennacio .. schooled yeah..

The difference between the two is, Allegri actually tried to win the game. The other just went not to lose it. got lucky with Abate's mistake , got the win.

"Schooled" ...

A very interesting tactical battle – which Ranieri got right. Alvarez wasn’t hugely influential on the left, but Ranieri correctly decided he could play with three deeper midfielders picking up Milan’s three attacking midfielders, have one player breaking forward from midfield, and play on the break. The risks were leaving Zambrotta and van Bommel free – and the latter was the width of a crossbar away from giving Milan the lead – but that, a 25-yard effort, was the only time Milan seriously threatened Julio Cesar. Ranieri can consider his strategy a success.

But whatever, defensive tactics are anti football and is no valid tactic etc etc

The fact remains everything went in to Inters gameplans and Allegris plan failed completly

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Post by DeviAngel Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:24 pm

I told to inter fans that Ranieri will stabilize Inter he ain't bad coach just not a coach to win title simple as that.
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Post by Zealous Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:25 pm

TBF Allegri's tactics were not bad. It's just that Zambrotta and Van Bommel couldn't step up.

Inter allowed them to have space because they thought they could get away with it. They were right. Milan need a few addition at fullback and midfield imo.

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Post by guest7 Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:27 pm

Zealous wrote:TBF Allegri's tactics were not bad. It's just that Zambrotta and Van Bommel couldn't step up.

Inter allowed them to have space because they thought they could get away with it. They were right. Milan need a few addition at fullback and midfield imo.


Then Allegri's tactic failed. If his tactic was revolved around Van Bommel & Zambrotta and he tought they could have handled it his gameplan was wrong and hence his tactic was invalid.

However, Ranieri expected this and thus why I think he schooled him. Did the best he could with the team. I also think Inter's squad is meant to play calciopoli... Their players are the masters at it.
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Post by Albiceleste Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:31 pm

Van Bommel and Zambrotta got put in their pockets by Cambiasso and Zanetti respectively, which could explain why the tactics failed if they were "revolved" around them.

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Post by Zealous Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:49 pm

omarish wrote:
Zealous wrote:TBF Allegri's tactics were not bad. It's just that Zambrotta and Van Bommel couldn't step up.

Inter allowed them to have space because they thought they could get away with it. They were right. Milan need a few addition at fullback and midfield imo.


Then Allegri's tactic failed. If his tactic was revolved around Van Bommel & Zambrotta and he tought they could have handled it his gameplan was wrong and hence his tactic was invalid.

However, Ranieri expected this and thus why I think he schooled him. Did the best he could with the team. I also think Inter's squad is meant to play calciopoli... Their players are the masters at it.

You can only play the hand you are dealt and Allegri did just that. Tactically I see few faults in Allegri's game plan for this game. At least that's how I see it.

Ranieri's tactics were spot on though I agree.

P.S. I think you mean cattencaccio lol
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Post by Dante Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:52 pm

omarish wrote:]
Dante13 wrote:
omarish wrote:Ranieri schooled Allegri

http://www.zonalmarking.net/2012/01/15/milan-0-1-inter-inter-sit-deep-and-counter/

Ranieri :bow:

If by schooled you mean , couldn't do anything more than catennacio .. schooled yeah..

The difference between the two is, Allegri actually tried to win the game. The other just went not to lose it. got lucky with Abate's mistake , got the win.

"Schooled" ...

A very interesting tactical battle – which Ranieri got right. Alvarez wasn’t hugely influential on the left, but Ranieri correctly decided he could play with three deeper midfielders picking up Milan’s three attacking midfielders, have one player breaking forward from midfield, and play on the break. The risks were leaving Zambrotta and van Bommel free – and the latter was the width of a crossbar away from giving Milan the lead – but that, a 25-yard effort, was the only time Milan seriously threatened Julio Cesar. Ranieri can consider his strategy a success.

But whatever, defensive tactics are anti football and is no valid tactic etc etc

The fact remains everything went in to Inters gameplans and Allegris plan failed completly

Not valid ? no it's valid , every tactic is valid. The point is , Inter stepped into the field going for a draw and if anything went up , then so be it.

It was another Milan - Tottenham game , or a Barcelona - Granada game..
In any case , your whole "Ranieri schooled Allegri" point is wrong , because of one single mistake , that's all am saying.

And if Ranieri really knew Van Bommel could threat Inter and did nothing for it , then he let it down to luck,didn't he.. Serious tactics being deployed tonight ,

catennacio AND pure luck!! (Van Bommel's crossbar)
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Post by Dante Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:58 pm

Zealous wrote:

You can only play the hand you are dealt and Allegri did just that. Tactically I see few faults in Allegri's game plan for this game. At least that's how I see it.

Ranieri's tactics were spot on though I agree.

P.S. I think you mean cattencaccio lol

Of course he did just that. And Ranieri. To be fair enough , we weren't up to our usuall standards in attack tonight and that's not entirely up to Inter's great defence.

P.S i think you mean catenaccio Razz
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Post by andiii Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:28 am

Dante13 wrote:
Not valid ? no it's valid , every tactic is valid. The point is , Inter stepped into the field going for a draw and if anything went up , then so be it.

actually i'm not so sure that's true

we've played this defensive style enough times to know we can win the game that way. ofc there's an element of if we don't score then so be it. but we stepped into the field knowing there's a genuinly large chance we can play catenaccio and still score goals and win games because we're skilled at it


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Post by kiranr Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:56 am


Catenaccio is not the same as parking the bus. Just letting this out there!
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Post by baresi Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:10 am

kiranr wrote:
Catenaccio is not the same as parking the bus. Just letting this out there!
was about to say this, Catenaccio is SCHOOL on its own and one of the hardest to master at that, if Inter had a less experienced team there would be no where on earth they would have adopted that quickly to it.
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Post by eltractor Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:50 am

catenaccio is our game, half of your team didnt appear in the match, it was outstandigly applied. remember it should be 2-0 (motta's goal) and remember that we got more clear chances on goal.
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Post by Be/\/ceCALI Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:55 am

I watched the game. I love how it's "pure luck" that Inter won, and Milan fans can just ignore the fact that Motta's goal should've stood..
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Post by CroInter Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:26 am

Dante13 wrote:
omarish wrote:Ranieri schooled Allegri

http://www.zonalmarking.net/2012/01/15/milan-0-1-inter-inter-sit-deep-and-counter/

Ranieri :bow:

If by schooled you mean , couldn't do anything more than catennacio .. schooled yeah..

The difference between the two is, Allegri actually tried to win the game. The other just went not to lose it. got lucky with Abate's mistake , got the win.

"Schooled" ...

Milan-Inter 0-1 – posticipo di domenica sera (arbitro Orsato, voto 7) Al 4’ l’assistente Copelli (voto 5) annulla ingiustamente un gol di Thiago Motta su punizione di Maicon. Il centrocampista brasiliano sbuca alle spalle dei difensori rossoneri, in fuorigioco ci sono Milito e Samuel ma non partecipano all’azione.


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Clear goal not allowed.

Should have been 2-0.

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Post by baresi Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:35 am

Ranieri never lost a derby,
Roma vs Lazio never lost.
Juve vs Torino never lost
Inter vs Milan never lost.
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Post by EarlyPrototype Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:43 am

Ranieri :bow:
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Post by Dante Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:46 pm

andiii wrote:
Dante13 wrote:
Not valid ? no it's valid , every tactic is valid. The point is , Inter stepped into the field going for a draw and if anything went up , then so be it.

actually i'm not so sure that's true

we've played this defensive style enough times to know we can win the game that way. ofc there's an element of if we don't score then so be it. but we stepped into the field knowing there's a genuinly large chance we can play catenaccio and still score goals and win games because we're skilled at it

no one said Inter aren't skilled at it. That's what your team is best suited for and i can't go against that. Of course any team would opt the most suitable and capable tactics to win a game , no doubt.

In any case , i guess i am frustrated at the way we lost , nothing more.


kiranr wrote:
Catenaccio is not the same as parking the bus. Just letting this out there!

They are different , but with huge similarities and the mentality of it is the same , extreme defence. But in any case , i was just frustrated , that's all. Inter did very well last night , despite how they won
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Post by guest7 Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:02 pm

Catenaccio is more counter attacking then defense imo

Quick counters with a wall of defense that can soak pressure

Parking the bus is just defending for a draw

Also Ranieri :bow: Never lost a derby :bow:
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Post by Swanhends Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:32 pm

Gil

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Master of reverse jinxes :bow:



By the way, I'd just like to point out that I said all along that it was Vibe, not Ranieri :coffee:
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Post by CroInter Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:38 pm

Vibe stops making threads and we have 1 draw and 3 losses :facepalm:

Before that 8 wins, this shit cant be coincidence :coffee:
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Post by Swanhends Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:41 pm

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Post by Gil Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:56 pm

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