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Post by Lynx100 Sat 04 Feb 2012, 11:18

the difference with a 5-3-2 compared to a 4-3-3 is the obvious lack of a 3rd forward.

Our frailties this season havent been in the defensive line (except whenever Bonucci has the ball - but thats a diff debate!). its been the inability of our forwards to convert the numberous goalscoring opportunities. We need all the help we can get up front right now...

With that in mind, why pull OUT a forward and replace him with another defender or defensive player in a 5-3-2 as you say? Doesnt make sense to me at all..

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Post by Lynx100 Sat 04 Feb 2012, 11:21

we should either be looking to add a ruthlessness/clinicalness to our attack to boost our our goal opportunities:goal scored ratio OR be creating RIDICULOUS amounts MORE chances so that with our current ratio, we will be scoring more goals.

Having Lich in a 5-3-2 wont be addressing that main problem we have right now
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Post by BoBo Sat 04 Feb 2012, 11:28

It IS addressing that problem exactly, cause now there is 2 dedicated strikers ready to increase the goals per chance ratio.
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Post by The_ItalianFool Sat 04 Feb 2012, 11:36

Its going to be interesting to see where he plays...

I could see him being used as a utility player, rotating with CB, RB, or LB depending on the formation, whos injured, who needs a rest.

I think he would also do very well in a 3 man backline.

For some reason I dont like the idea of him being in the center of a 4 man back line too much tho
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Post by Lynx100 Sat 04 Feb 2012, 11:37

how is 2 better than 3? scratch

With 2 centre forwards will then be relying on the WBs to provide crosses into the box. And with WBs which dont really have much of an attacking knowhow (Licht), I cant see their service being any better than having 2 wide forwards who know how to create plays.


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Post by Lynx100 Sat 04 Feb 2012, 11:38

The_ItalianFool wrote:Its going to be interesting to see where he plays...

I could see him being used as a utility player, rotating with CB, RB, or LB depending on the formation, whos injured, who needs a rest.

I think he would also do very well in a 3 man backline.

For some reason I dont like the idea of him being in the center of a 4 man back line too much tho

I think the best part of Caceras is that he looks fairly comfortable in all positions. I think he would rotate quite well with any of the defenders.
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Post by BoBo Sat 04 Feb 2012, 11:40

For some reason I dont like the idea of him being in the center of a 4 man back line too much tho

It wont be a problem with Barzagli by his side but i also think he will do great in the 3 man defense and i think that is where he will play the most
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Post by The_ItalianFool Sat 04 Feb 2012, 11:42

Agreed.

On the Licht discussion, I think he excels at RB in the 3-5-2.

Yeah, his crosses arent always great(although ive seen some great ones which gives me hope that his consistency will go up), Ill give you that. BUT, his stamina and positioning is truly what is needed here. Getting back to help the 3 on counter attacks and when we dont have possession in genereal is the most vital part of that positions job if you ask me. I guess Caceres would get that done as well, but is his crosses much better? I dont really think so.
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Post by BoBo Sat 04 Feb 2012, 11:45

He is very much like Licht on the right both good and bad almost the same so he would do good there as well.
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Post by Lynx100 Sat 04 Feb 2012, 11:50

sure noone can fault Licht when we dont have the ball. hes great.

The problem really comes becuase hes wasteful with the ball in the final 3rd.

Caceras actually does have better delivery into the box. hes got a better shot than Lich too. So in an attacking sense, I do think Caceras is better. I think that Lich has better work rate. Both can be equally hot headed.

At the end of the day, time will tell. Conte wil see whats right. My money is on a 4 man defensive line to continue though.

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