Wilshere vs Chamberlain vs Szczesny

by Highburied Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:24 am

Safe hands is the best way to describe Woj. No doubt, the best GK since Lehman but GK barely gets credit when it comes to choosing the best.

So, then we have Jack Wilshere... The soul and pride of The Arsenal. One of the brightest talents in Europe with a proven record of first team football in highest levels and not just grabbing a spot in first eleven but also being a dominant figure in the midfield... at this age? It doesnt happen very often in football.

I rated Chamberlain a few games before as the biggest talent we have since Fabregas but some people looked at me like I lost my mind or something but each game, hes proving me right and he will definitely become a key player at Arsenal for many years to come.

I love his style of play. I cant believe Wenger said he reminds him of Rooney.. wtf, Rooney has nothing on THE OX Very Happy

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What you think?

How would you rate our young generation?

This is how I rate them:

1. The OX
2. Jack Wilshere
3. Coquelin
4. Szcezny
5. Miquel
6. Ramsey
7. Walcott
8. Frimpong
9. Gibbs (injury free, easilly top 5)
10. Jenkinson
11. Miyaichi

by REWB Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:27 am

joel compbell 5th imo

miyaichi 6th

miguel 7th.

the rest i agree with.

by REWB Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:37 am

is this besed on potential or how good they are atm?

by Highburied Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:40 am

REWB wrote:is this besed on potential or how good they are atm?

Obviously potential but performances cannot be ignored, lets say Miyaichi was rated higher than Chamberlain in pre season but now its different.

by Jay29 Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:34 am

Wilshere is undoubtedly the best talent at Arsenal, in my opinion. Chamberlain has been impressive during his time on the pitch but Wilshere proved himself to perform consistently for 49 games in one season and the fact he can control midfields at just 19 tells you all you need to know about him.

My top ten would be:

1. Jack Wilshere
2. Wojciech Szczesny
3. Francis Coquelin
4. Aaron Ramsey
5. Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
6. Theo Walcott
7. Kieran Gibbs
8. Kyle Bartley
9. Joel Campbell
10. Ryo Miyaichi

by Sina Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:51 am

i rate Ramsey and Ryo higher(Potential-wise,not current state)

1-Jack wilshere
2-Ryo
3-Aaron Ramsey
4-AOC
5-Kieran Gibbs
6-Wojciech Szczesny
7-Theo Walcott
8-Joel Campbell
9-Francis Coquelin
10-Carl Jenkinson
11-Kyle Bartley

by djoe26 Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:57 am

GoonerJay29 wrote:Wilshere is undoubtedly the best talent at Arsenal, in my opinion. Chamberlain has been impressive during his time on the pitch but Wilshere proved himself to perform consistently for 49 games in one season and the fact he can control midfields at just 19 tells you all you need to know about him.

My top ten would be:

1. Jack Wilshere
2. Wojciech Szczesny
3. Francis Coquelin
4. Aaron Ramsey
5. Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
6. Theo Walcott
7. Ryo Miyaichi
8. Kyle Bartley
9. Joel Campbell
10. Kieran Gibbs

This.

by TalkingReckless Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:22 am

alot of people here underrate Bartley.... he has been really good for rangers....however if he gets over his injury troubles he will be ahead of Miquel in the pecking order

by Ali Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:57 am

1. Theo Walcott
2. Jack Wilshere
3. Scez
4. Ramsey
5. Oxlade
6. Le Coq
7. Miyaichi
8. Campbell
9. Gibbs
10. Bartley/Miquel

by RealGunner Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:04 am

My top ten would be:

1. Jack Wilshere
2. Wojciech Szczesny
3. Francis Coquelin
4. Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
5. Aaron Ramsey
6. Theo Walcott
7. Kieran Gibbs
8. Ryo Miyaichi
9. Joel Campbell
10. Kyle bartley

by Raptorgunner Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:09 am

1. Wojciech Szczesny
2. Jack Wilshere
3. Theo Walcott
4. Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
5. Francis Coquelin
6. Aaron Ramsey
7. Joel Campbell
8. Kieran Gibbs
9. Kyle bartley
10.Carl Jenkinson
11. Sébastien Squillaci :bow:

by Sushi Master Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:13 am

1. Wilshere
2. Chamberlain
3. Coquelin
4. Szcezny
5. Ramsey
6. Walcott
7. Frimpong
8. Miyaichi
9. Gibbs
10. Jenkinson

Coquelin has really kicked my ass everytime I've seen him play. I used to rate Frimpong better but once I saw a few games of his, damn!

by lenear1030 Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:36 am

1. The OX
2. Jack Wilshere
3. Coquelin
4. Szcezny
5. Miquel
6. Jenkinson
7. Ramsey
8. Walcott
9. Miyaichi
10. Frimmy (just tore his acl again, smh)

red = a fvcking boss.

*Honorable mention for Eisfeld lol

by EL Patron Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:48 am

GoonerJay29 wrote:Wilshere is undoubtedly the best talent at Arsenal, in my opinion. Chamberlain has been impressive during his time on the pitch but Wilshere proved himself to perform consistently for 49 games in one season and the fact he can control midfields at just 19 tells you all you need to know about him.

My top ten would be:

1. Jack Wilshere
2. Wojciech Szczesny
3. Francis Coquelin
4. Aaron Ramsey
5. Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
6. Theo Walcott
7. Kieran Gibbs
8. Kyle Bartley
9. Joel Campbell
10. Ryo Miyaichi

Swap Frimpong with Bartley then i agree

by RealGunner Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:02 am

the likes of afobe aneke and ozyakup would be in the list if we saw a bit more of them

by Iceman Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:19 am

According to several rangers fans, Bartley has been alright, but hasn't produced anything special to show that he's as big of a talent as we assume him to be. We'll wait and see, I guess

by EL Patron Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:25 am

Iceman wrote:According to several rangers fans, Bartley has been alright, but hasn't produced anything special to show that he's as big of a talent as we assume him to be. We'll wait and see, I guess

I am in Scotland at the moment and i have watched Bartley at times, don't think he is good enough to play for us at the moment. Think he will leave in the summer

by ArsenalWenger Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:31 am

1. Jack Wilshere
2. Wojciech Szczesny
3. Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
4. Theo Walcott
5. Francis Coquelin
6. Aaron Ramsey
7. Kieran Gibbs
8. Carl Jenkinson
9. Joel Campbell
10. Ryo Miyaichi

Give Chamberlain a few more games, if he shines I'd move him up to second, maybe first place. I want to see Jack score more goals, if he does that then in my opinion, he is definitely our biggest talent. Pre-injury Aaron Ramsey would have been in my top 3 at this moment.

by Ali Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:33 am

Are we really rating Walcott so low considering he's scored against Barcelona, Chelsea, Villareal, Udinese and him being a big game player?

by lenear1030 Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:54 am

Ali"The Superman"8775 wrote:Are we really rating Walcott so low considering he's scored against Barcelona, Chelsea, Villareal, Udinese and him being a big game player?

he is as inconsistent as they come. two shades away from unreliable. and scoring a goal doesn't necessarily equate to having a good game.

by DuringTheWar Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:58 am

Chamberlain and wilshere are very different. Chamberlain is the one with the pace and shooting ability, hes the sort of player that gets everone excited. Wilshere is different to that, he is a master of subtlety, indeed too subtle sometimes for some people to appreciate, his close control and ability to beat players with the smallest movement is incredible, imo its a more valuable ability to have than chamberlain. Look at barcelona, their pressing tactics couldnt do anything to wilshere, he just kept making them fall on their faces, could chamberlain do that? im not so sure

Based on talent:

1. Wilshere
2. Wellington silva
3. Chamberlain

by Highburied Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:02 pm

Ali"The Superman"8775 wrote:Are we really rating Walcott so low considering he's scored against Barcelona, Chelsea, Villareal, Udinese and him being a big game player?

We rating Walcott so low considering he lost 10000000000 balls, 100000 chances and 1000 one on ones...

by Highburied Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:02 pm

@diego armando

Why do u rate Wellington so high?

by REWB Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:03 pm

Diego Armando Maradona wrote:Chamberlain and wilshere are very different. Chamberlain is the one with the pace and shooting ability, hes the sort of player that gets everone excited. Wilshere is different to that, he is a master of subtlety, indeed too subtle sometimes for some people to appreciate, his close control and ability to beat players with the smallest movement is incredible, imo its a more valuable ability to have than chamberlain. Look at barcelona, their pressing tactics couldnt do anything to wilshere, he just kept making them fall on their faces, could chamberlain do that? im not so sure

Based on talent:

1. Wilshere
2. Wellington silva
3. Chamberlain

yeah based on pure talent, id go with this. not sure about wellington though, but he looks good, if he can sort out his attitude.

by DuringTheWar Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:09 pm

highburied wrote:@diego armando

Why do u rate Wellington so high?

Because hes got quickest feet ive ever seen. Some of the skills hes done you literally need slow motion replays to even see properly, that and the arsenal reserve coaching staff consider him the best talent they have ever seen

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