Re: Santi Cazorla - Europe's Best All-Round Midfielder

by RED Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:47 am

^ Mata was Praised enough last season. Ur acting really salty here. Santi is a newcomer to the league and he is lighting it uo. He deserves the attention and praise he is currently getting

by urbaNRoots Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:27 am

Gil

Stop embarrassing yourself like this.

by VendettaRed07 Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:17 am

Awesome player! Fantastic signing.

If he can score goals like that he needs to be a bit more selfish and try for goal more often.

by Thimmy Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:00 am

harhar11 wrote:
Bénin wrote:It's only now, when he has joined the '' Best league '' in the world that people rate him correctly

I'm sure if the like of Gotze, Reus, Pipita, were playing there they would be all of sudden more rated. they are but they will be so much more ( even overrated)

I like Santi btw

I get annoyed by that as well...

Aguero, Santi, Mata, Torres(before),Silva etc seems like not every good player in la liga played for Barca/Madrid like some on this forum have implied before...

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On topic, didnt watch the game but Cazorla what a player

Real Madrid castilla :coffee:

by Vibe Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:05 am

He is truly amazing,another 30 million in the bag from City next year.

by urbaNRoots Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:08 am

Vibe wrote:He is truly amazing,another 30 million in the bag from City next year.

by Vibe Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:10 am

It is not a trolling attempt,it's a pseudo-sarcastic fart of frustration...

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Oct 07, 2012 12:18 pm

So basically...... Mata feasts on Norwich he is GOAT and Silva and Cazorla feast on West Ham and Sunderland respectively they are mere flat track bullys Laughing

Also Mata run the show is ridiculous rofl

he did'nt run shit, Arsenal had more of possession and more chances.

Chelsea was clinical but that wasn't dominant, outside of set pieces they created hardly anything.

Also the reason people are hyping Cazorla is because he's new to the league, people were doing the same with Mata and Silva last year, Ben Arfa towards the end of last season and Hazard at the beginning of this season.

Get over it ffs.

by Zealous Sun Oct 07, 2012 12:21 pm

Anyone who saw him play before knows how good he is and what a special talent he has. PL fans as always are so late to the party Laughing

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Oct 07, 2012 12:24 pm

Being fashionably late is cool :coffee:

Spoiler:

by RealGunner Sun Oct 07, 2012 2:10 pm

2. Bore off. Cazorla got shut down by Mikel while Mata ran the show in that game. Not even a debate. That was by far Santi's worst performance so far this season.

lol Mata was in Gibbs pocket all game. Stop re writing history mate

by Gil Sun Oct 07, 2012 2:22 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:So basically...... Mata feasts on Norwich he is GOAT and Silva and Cazorla feast on West Ham and Sunderland respectively they are mere flat track bullys

Also Mata run the show is ridiculous he did'nt run shit, Arsenal had more of possession and more chances.

Chelsea was clinical but that wasn't dominant, outside of set pieces they created hardly anything.

Also the reason people are hyping Cazorla is because he's new to the league, people were doing the same with Mata and Silva last year, Ben Arfa towards the end of last season and Hazard at the beginning of this season.

Get over it ffs.

We had more of the ball until the last 20 minutes when we were playing on the counter. Watch the game again you weapon. Even if you're going to be a Neanderthal about this we had 49% of the ball in their own backyard, that's simply outstanding.

Of course Arsenal had more chances they were playing at home. This current Chelsea side is still trying to change their philosophy and style of play now that Didier's gone while Arsenal are a settled team.

Why dismiss the set pieces btw? :facepalm:

And no Mata definitely did not get the amount of praise Cazorla has been getting this year. Nowhere near close and you know it!

No praise for Giroud who was just as good on the night or THEOOOOOOOOOOO who changed the game. "Wenger unearthed a gem" *cringe*

Can't wait till Mikel locks him up again.

by Swanhends Sun Oct 07, 2012 2:27 pm

Dnmac4 wrote:
Gil wrote:Tired of the Cazorla hype now.

He went missing against Chelsea. Locked up by Mikel.

He's awesome against midtable dross though.

Jesus, for a guy with Fernando Torres in his signature you would think that you may cut Cazorla more slack seeing how this is his first 10 games in a new league and his coach basically just said from day one, hey why don't we run our whole offense through you. And he's had one average game.

Your standards are remarkably high for anyone not wearing a Chelsea jersey.

dat truth

by Swanhends Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:46 pm

Been so terrible that he's been reduced to just another diving Spaniard smh :facepalm:

dnmac do you need a hug? hmm

by donttreadonred Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:13 pm

Swanhends wrote:Been so terrible that he's been reduced to just another diving Spaniard smh

dnmac do you need a hug?

Really?

Let's be equal opportunity cynics here... :coffee:

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by RealGunner Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:11 pm

I hope Santi never does that again.

by Rev Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:12 pm

Don't need another diving Chamakh.

Wenger better educate Santi about fairplay. Clubber

by Swanhends Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:26 pm

"Santi needs to show eh littell, how do you say, le mental fortitude" - Wenger

by RealGunner Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:37 pm

"Wenger apologised and says he will talk to him"

by Dnmac4 Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:40 pm

Swanhends wrote:Been so terrible that he's been reduced to just another diving Spaniard smh

dnmac do you need a hug?

LOL, a non english player dives and people act shocked. Then when English players dive no thread ever pops up. And then they act like Cazorla is bad or isn't playing well or something?????????

Well EPL fans get used to it because your league has turned into a league full of foreigner's and Wayne Rooney. Not to mention the offensive play in that league is just pitiful, I mean if we took the foreigner's out of the EPL there probably wouldn't be one goal all year scored from someones foot, just blind crosses into the box and headers.

There is such an identity crisis in the EPL it's incredible teams have no identity what so ever except for United and that's because of there coach and Rooney. All the big teams come out looking like a different team every week and the offense shown lately has been really just sub par especially in Europe, I mean they could barely score in the Champions League and had trouble stopping anyone.

Every race of players dive but for some reason only the Spanish / Hispanic players catch any slack for it on this board, gee I wonder why?

It could be because by in large players grown outside the EPL dominate football. English players can't dive because they can't even get on the field anymore in there own league and they don't dare to try any other league out because they already know there not good enough and the donkey ball they have been playing wont fly anywhere else.

I don't know how to make you guys feel better, sure every race of players dive do Hispanic and Italian players do it more? Probably. Are they brought up that way a little more yes but since you guys don't really have a league to call your own anymore I don't know where to tell you to watch your football. Maybe the MLS? There isn't much diving there.

So again if you don't want to see diving watch the MLS because the EPL is importing in players who dive on occasion and have almost toally stopped making quality players. You can't blame the teams for going outside England I mean the only top team who even tried to win with British players is Liverpool and we have seen what a disaster that has been.

So embrace diving because your league is now a diving league.

by Dnmac4 Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:53 pm

And give me a break with this whole "Wenger is going to talk to him" garbage.

Wenger is like any other coach who's team has been on bad form, they will take goals / wins however he can get them at this point. And then after the game act like he's going to have a sit down with Santi, what a load of garbage.

I guarantee you if someone told Wenger before the game, I can tell you 100% you will win this game but you have to dive to do it he would snatch that guys arm off to make the deal in less then the time it even takes to think about it.

IF you guys really believe Wenger is going to talk to Cazorla about diving then you're more naive then I thought.

by Swanhends Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:10 pm

Well you covered diving, but basically ignored the fact that his overall play has been very underwhelming

I referenced the dive because that was pretty much the only thing he contributed to the team today

This situation is stretching into its third month now..

Also you're definitely wrong about Wenger, if you think the only thing that matters to him is results you don't know him at all...

Edit: As a result of my discussion with Arq I have decided to describe his performances as "underwhelming" rather than "poor"

by urbaNRoots Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:31 pm

Arsene has talked to Walcott and Eduardo before, about diving, wouldn't be surprised if he did it again with Santi.

by stevieg8 Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:30 am

Dnmac4 wrote:

LOL, a non english player dives and people act shocked. Then when English players dive no thread ever pops up. And then they act like Cazorla is bad or isn't playing well or something?????????

Every race of players dive but for some reason only the Spanish / Hispanic players catch any slack for it on this board, gee I wonder why?

It could be because by in large players grown outside the EPL dominate football. English players can't dive because they can't even get on the field anymore in there own league and they don't dare to try any other league out because they already know there not good enough and the donkey ball they have been playing wont fly anywhere else.

I don't know how to make you guys feel better, sure every race of players dive do Hispanic and Italian players do it more? Probably. Are they brought up that way a little more yes but since you guys don't really have a league to call your own anymore I don't know where to tell you to watch your football. Maybe the MLS? There isn't much diving there.

So again if you don't want to see diving watch the MLS because the EPL is importing in players who dive on occasion and have almost toally stopped making quality players. You can't blame the teams for going outside England I mean the only top team who even tried to win with British players is Liverpool and we have seen what a disaster that has been.

So embrace diving because your league is now a diving league.

You know, generalizations bother me even when they're accurate. But to claim that this forum blames non-English players for diving, when every thread that discusses diving includes a reference to Gareth Bale and Ashley Young among others, doesn't just lump together a large number of disparate posters into one opinion - it's also wrong. Calm down the vitriol and pay attention to what you're saying.

by Lex Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:45 am

Barca fans are so used to the idea of their team diving, crying and vagi'ing their way to victory, that, the mere idea that a manager has a word with a player who dives in a game is considered as divine an act as walking on water or raising the dead Laughing

by Lex Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:49 am

And as far as Wenger's principles go, we're talking about a man who replayed an entire game when a slightly naive Kanu scored a controversial winning goal against Sheffield United

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