Why Stewart Downing is a better signing than Juan Mata
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Why Stewart Downing is a better signing than Juan Mata
by Guest Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:02 am
http://www.ourkop.com/2011/07/14/why-stewart-downing-is-a-better-signing-than-juan-mata/
Pretty funny looking back on it now
Oh scroll down the comments EPIC LOLZ
Pretty funny looking back on it now
Downing’s crossing is excellent and he uses his pace and skill well down the flanks. He is Quick, incisive, accurate, a tricky winger to play against. While he may not have the Razamatz of Mata and in my opinion the over rated status because he is foreign, I for one was delighted to reading twitter on the evening of the 12/07/11 to see that LFC had agreed a fee for Downing, £20 million ? only £3 million more than Utd paid for Young
Oh scroll down the comments EPIC LOLZ
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Re: Why Stewart Downing is a better signing than Juan Mata
by Kick Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:07 am
just as bad as United fans saying Kagawa is better than Hazard.
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Re: Why Stewart Downing is a better signing than Juan Mata
by urbaNRoots Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:32 am
Kick wrote:
just as bad as United fans saying Kagawa is better than Hazard.
What United fans claim is not even close this bad.
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Re: Why Stewart Downing is a better signing than Juan Mata
by 7amood11 Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:52 am
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just as bad as United fans saying Kagawa is better than Hazard.
Kagawa is very close to Hazard's level, though. Nothing wrong with saying that. Not to mention we don't know how both of them will perform in the PL, Hazard may flop.
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Re: Why Stewart Downing is a better signing than Juan Mata
by Kingofeverythingclassy Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:18 am
Kick wrote:
just as bad as United fans saying Kagawa is better than Hazard.
Kagawa is WAY better than Hazard. Kagawa has won twice a Big league beating Bayern. Hazard has won the French League. Hazard is a flop with the NT & average to barely above average in the CHL.
So at the point Kagawa>>>Hazard. But anyways its a bad buy because United needs Full-Backs & Central Mid-fielders way more than a CAM.
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Re: Why Stewart Downing is a better signing than Juan Mata
by Sri Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:34 am
Kingofeverythingclassy wrote:So at the point Kagawa>>>Hazard. But anyways its a bad buy because United needs Full-Backs & Central Mid-fielders way more than a CAM.
Out of curiosity, what happen to those Brazilian twins?
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Re: Why Stewart Downing is a better signing than Juan Mata
by Kingofeverythingclassy Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:48 am
srigooner wrote:Kingofeverythingclassy wrote:So at the point Kagawa>>>Hazard. But anyways its a bad buy because United needs Full-Backs & Central Mid-fielders way more than a CAM.
Out of curiosity, what happen to those Brazilian twins?
I have always thought they are good for a Sunderland kind of club. For United they are shit. Fabio is atleast decent defensively. Rafael has like 0 ideas about defensive positioning. And that suddenly does not grow. Takes a lot of time.
Even David Luiz's defensive positioning is way better than Rafael. And Evra has at the most 1 or 2 years at a good level,he was probably fallen down quite a lot.
I guess United are content with playing almost 40 year old likes Giggs & Scholes at CM or they are expecting rookies like Cleverly to overshadow a guy like Ozil
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Re: Why Stewart Downing is a better signing than Juan Mata
by Lex Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:24 am
Redcafe list Rafael as one of the best RB in the league, narrowly beaten by Sagna and Richards
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Re: Why Stewart Downing is a better signing than Juan Mata
by S Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:36 am
Kick wrote:
just as bad as United fans saying Kagawa is better than Hazard.
Kagawa>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Overrated attention whore.Deal with it.
Also what KOEC said.
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Re: Why Stewart Downing is a better signing than Juan Mata
by Lord Hades Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:46 am
seriously people who use this size matters, bigger stronger arguement in terms of football to show up players should be flogged
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Re: Why Stewart Downing is a better signing than Juan Mata
by REWB Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:14 pm
Kick wrote:
just as bad as United fans saying Kagawa is better than Hazard.
this this comment is poor, do you know how good kagawa is? he is better than hazard imo
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Re: Why Stewart Downing is a better signing than Juan Mata
by Abramovich Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:19 pm
Wow, although to be fair a lot of those comments were made last year 
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Re: Why Stewart Downing is a better signing than Juan Mata
by BarcaKizz Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:32 pm
"Although his goals ratio is 50% less to that of Mata, we must ask the question of which league Downing is playing. The premiership is the greatest league in the world, faster, stronger and more exciting than any of its rivals."
Burst out laughing at this point lol. "His stat is not as good, but only because he plays in the better league".
I will gladly accept the £5million difference for the premiership experience and the fact that Downing is English.
Those quality Englishmen 
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Re: Why Stewart Downing is a better signing than Juan Mata
by Blue Barrett Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:44 pm
This one right here just killed me:
You are a scholar and a gentleman. Shame you’re a idiot.
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Re: Why Stewart Downing is a better signing than Juan Mata
by che Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:46 pm
let's be honest here, it's not like fans of other clubs, even on this forum, don't desperately try to justify every single shit signing their club makes...
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Re: Why Stewart Downing is a better signing than Juan Mata
by Blue Barrett Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:49 pm
Did he do it on his own?Kingofeverythingclassy wrote:Kick wrote:
just as bad as United fans saying Kagawa is better than Hazard.
Kagawa is WAY better than Hazard. Kagawa has won twice a Big league beating Bayern. Hazard has won the French League. Hazard is a flop with the NT & average to barely above average in the CHL.
So at the point Kagawa>>>Hazard. But anyways its a bad buy because United needs Full-Backs & Central Mid-fielders way more than a CAM.
He was on a team with Goetze, Lewandoski, Hummels, Subotic, etc.
Calm down.
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Re: Why Stewart Downing is a better signing than Juan Mata
by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:56 pm
Kagawa is much more proven than Hazard atm and dont be suprised if he outperforms him.....
Actually Kagawa is probably a better signing for Man U than Hazard would be considering how they want to play.
In no way is it a laughable suggestion that Kagawa could perform at a similar level. ( like it is with Downing and Mata)
In fact Kagawa would have cost similar to what Hazard cost if he was'nt in the last year of his contract.
Actually Kagawa is probably a better signing for Man U than Hazard would be considering how they want to play.
In no way is it a laughable suggestion that Kagawa could perform at a similar level. ( like it is with Downing and Mata)
In fact Kagawa would have cost similar to what Hazard cost if he was'nt in the last year of his contract.
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Re: Why Stewart Downing is a better signing than Juan Mata
by Blue Barrett Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:11 pm
In what way, shape or form? I'm not in any way slating Kagawa as I actually think he's a brilliant player but I just fail to see how you can say that.Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Kagawa is much more proven than Hazard atm and dont be suprised if he outperforms him.....
Actually Kagawa is probably a better signing for Man U than Hazard would be considering how they want to play.
In no way is it a laughable suggestion that Kagawa could perform at a similar level. ( like it is with Downing and Mata)
In fact Kagawa would have cost similar to what Hazard cost if he was'nt in the last year of his contract.
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Re: Why Stewart Downing is a better signing than Juan Mata
by Noonan22 Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:16 pm
Defensively,Ligue 1 has proven to be one of the toughest leagues,with it consistently having the least amount of goals conceded.
Not saying Kagawa is not a great player,but I fail to see how he's "WAY better" or "much more proven" than Hazard.
Not saying Kagawa is not a great player,but I fail to see how he's "WAY better" or "much more proven" than Hazard.
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Re: Why Stewart Downing is a better signing than Juan Mata
by S Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:24 pm
Kagawa probably would've been hyped to death if not for his Asian heritage.
I've watched both and in my opinion Kagawa is better.
I've watched both and in my opinion Kagawa is better.
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Re: Why Stewart Downing is a better signing than Juan Mata
by RED Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:43 pm
Kick wrote:
just as bad as United fans saying Kagawa is better than Hazard.
He is though.
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Re: Why Stewart Downing is a better signing than Juan Mata
by S Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:45 pm
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Did he do it on his own?
He was on a team with Goetze, Lewandoski, Hummels, Subotic, etc.
Calm down.
Nice ignorance there.
When talking about this season Goetze was injured for majority of the season.
Kagawa came back from a terrible injury and put in some inspiring perfomances and scored some crucial goals when Lewandowski was missing sitters to his beautiful assists.Actually before Gundogan put some dazzling displays at the end of the season whole creativity burden was upon him.
Goes to show injury has not slowed him down,infact he has gotten better and has become more mature as a player.
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Re: Why Stewart Downing is a better signing than Juan Mata
by RED Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:47 pm
Kingofeverythingclassy wrote:srigooner wrote:Kingofeverythingclassy wrote:So at the point Kagawa>>>Hazard. But anyways its a bad buy because United needs Full-Backs & Central Mid-fielders way more than a CAM.
Out of curiosity, what happen to those Brazilian twins?
I have always thought they are good for a Sunderland kind of club. For United they are shit. Fabio is atleast decent defensively. Rafael has like 0 ideas about defensive positioning. And that suddenly does not grow. Takes a lot of time.
Even David Luiz's defensive positioning is way better than Rafael. And Evra has at the most 1 or 2 years at a good level,he was probably fallen down quite a lot.
I guess United are content with playing almost 40 year old likes Giggs & Scholes at CM or they are expecting rookies like Cleverly to overshadow a guy like Ozil
Rafael is a very good player. He's only problem is he has discipline issues and concentration lapses, that with time, he will iron out.
He is a very good prospect, but just like many youngsters, is prone to mistakes. Fabio is just too injury prone. He will go on loan next season to get games, which is impossible for him at Utd atm due to Evra never ever being injured.
Both are really talented.
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Re: Why Stewart Downing is a better signing than Juan Mata
by Adit Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:58 pm
As a player Hazard is better than Kagwa. There is a reason multiple top clubs were after Hazards signature . Hazard has a terrific final ball and he is one of the best dribblers of today. Kagwa will come close i agree but Hazard is 2 years younger and just 21.The potential is huge and already better than Kagwa imo.
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Re: Why Stewart Downing is a better signing than Juan Mata
by Kingofeverythingclassy Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:05 pm
Barrettinator wrote:Did he do it on his own?Kingofeverythingclassy wrote:Kick wrote:
just as bad as United fans saying Kagawa is better than Hazard.
Kagawa is WAY better than Hazard. Kagawa has won twice a Big league beating Bayern. Hazard has won the French League. Hazard is a flop with the NT & average to barely above average in the CHL.
So at the point Kagawa>>>Hazard. But anyways its a bad buy because United needs Full-Backs & Central Mid-fielders way more than a CAM.
He was on a team with Goetze, Lewandoski, Hummels, Subotic, etc.
Calm down.
Lewandoski barely played 10-11. And Goetze too. He played mainly when kagawa did not play. 1st half of 10-11 & 2nd half of 11-12 he was injured. And that was when Dortmund scored most points a big lead & that was when Kagawa was playing CAM & Goetze was injured.
And no player can win a league on his own. What are you saying man??? This was a ridiculous thing to say in your part. Ofcourse Dortmund have some good players & a great coach but Kagawa was probably their best player. Its not hard to understand.
And among Hummels & Subotic,I dont rate Subotic,I would rather see Santana play at Dortmund
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