Re: Cesc vs Ozil Stats

by Guest Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:08 pm

like how everyone puts words into my mouth....

average team tell me where I said that?

Is anything I said wrong? No

Is Spain suited to better passers? More so than Germany?

Is Spain the better team? Is Spain one of the best International teams of all time?

Get a clue people

by Doc Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:15 pm

The man really didn't say Germany was average nor implied it. In fact, it was a pretty accurate statement. Alas, this just confirms that Ozil and Fabregas still can't get into Juventus' midfield...

by Babun Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:49 pm

Doc wrote:The man really didn't say Germany was average nor implied it. In fact, it was a pretty accurate statement. Alas, this just confirms that Ozil and Fabregas still can't get into Juventus' midfield...

Özil would easily get into Juve's midfield. He is a direct player and a ball carrier at that. He'd make a great target for Pirlo's long balls with the off the ball pace he possesses.

by Doc Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:02 pm

Dolce Vita wrote:
Doc wrote:The man really didn't say Germany was average nor implied it. In fact, it was a pretty accurate statement. Alas, this just confirms that Ozil and Fabregas still can't get into Juventus' midfield...
Özil would easily get into Juve's midfield. He is a direct player and a ball carrier at that. He'd make a great target for Pirlo's long balls with the off the ball pace he possesses.

I assume you didn't see the "Would Fabregas make it into Juventus midfield" thread...

by Babun Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:08 pm

Doc wrote:
Dolce Vita wrote:
Doc wrote:The man really didn't say Germany was average nor implied it. In fact, it was a pretty accurate statement. Alas, this just confirms that Ozil and Fabregas still can't get into Juventus' midfield...
Özil would easily get into Juve's midfield. He is a direct player and a ball carrier at that. He'd make a great target for Pirlo's long balls with the off the ball pace he possesses.

I assume you didn't see the "Would Fabregas make it into Juventus midfield" thread...

If we're talking about the central midfield 3 then none of the two would make it. They aren't porper CMs. In attack, Özil is vastly superior to Cex.

--------Vidal----Pirlo---Marchisio-------
------------------Özil-------------------
---------striker---------striker---------

would own everyone.

by kiranr Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:11 pm

Dolce Vita wrote:
Doc wrote:
Dolce Vita wrote:
Doc wrote:The man really didn't say Germany was average nor implied it. In fact, it was a pretty accurate statement. Alas, this just confirms that Ozil and Fabregas still can't get into Juventus' midfield...
Özil would easily get into Juve's midfield. He is a direct player and a ball carrier at that. He'd make a great target for Pirlo's long balls with the off the ball pace he possesses.

I assume you didn't see the "Would Fabregas make it into Juventus midfield" thread...
If we're talking about the central midfield 3 then none of the two would make it. They aren't porper CMs. In attack, Özil is vastly superior to Cex.

--------Vidal----Pirlo---Marchisio-------
------------------Özil-------------------
---------striker---------striker---------

would own everyone.

Don't agree with the vastly superior bit. I think Cesc is maybe not as good as Oezil but they are a lot closer in quality than you think.

by Babun Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:19 pm

kiranr wrote:
Dolce Vita wrote:
Doc wrote:
Dolce Vita wrote:
Doc wrote:The man really didn't say Germany was average nor implied it. In fact, it was a pretty accurate statement. Alas, this just confirms that Ozil and Fabregas still can't get into Juventus' midfield...
Özil would easily get into Juve's midfield. He is a direct player and a ball carrier at that. He'd make a great target for Pirlo's long balls with the off the ball pace he possesses.

I assume you didn't see the "Would Fabregas make it into Juventus midfield" thread...
If we're talking about the central midfield 3 then none of the two would make it. They aren't porper CMs. In attack, Özil is vastly superior to Cex.

--------Vidal----Pirlo---Marchisio-------
------------------Özil-------------------
---------striker---------striker---------

would own everyone.

Don't agree with the vastly superior bit. I think Cesc is maybe not as good as Oezil but they are a lot closer in quality than you think.

Meh, Özil alone is enough to disrupt all the defensive line. To top it off, he is an able assister. Vidal or Marchisio making runs beside him with Pirlo feeding. That setup isn't meant for Cex, not in 100 millions years. You simply need a ball carrier there, a trequartista which Cex isn't. He is your more creative AM.

by Donuts Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:49 pm

Doc wrote:The man really didn't say Germany was average nor implied it. In fact, it was a pretty accurate statement. Alas, this just confirms that Ozil and Fabregas still can't get into Juventus' midfield...

...

Crimson wrote:Except people forget that Fab plays for Spain currently regarded as one of the best international teams ever and Ozil plays for Germany a young team who hasn't complished anything

How has Germany not accomplished anything how many finals quarter finals have they reached, how many times have they been favorites, a team that hasn't accomplished anything is USA or Chile, etc Germany certainly is successful and rated #2 but many.

by FennecFox7 Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:36 pm

Donuts wrote:
Doc wrote:The man really didn't say Germany was average nor implied it. In fact, it was a pretty accurate statement. Alas, this just confirms that Ozil and Fabregas still can't get into Juventus' midfield...
...
Crimson wrote:Except people forget that Fab plays for Spain currently regarded as one of the best international teams ever and Ozil plays for Germany a young team who hasn't complished anything
How has Germany not accomplished anything how many finals quarter finals have they reached, how many times have they been favorites, a team that hasn't accomplished anything is USA or Chile, etc Germany certainly is successful and rated #2 but many.

Spain is SO much better then germany, especially concerning the midfield, that's not even up for debate. The reason for this is a combination of experience and chemistry which germany have yet to achieve

by Khaled Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:59 pm

Giggity5313 wrote:
Donuts wrote:
Doc wrote:The man really didn't say Germany was average nor implied it. In fact, it was a pretty accurate statement. Alas, this just confirms that Ozil and Fabregas still can't get into Juventus' midfield...
...
Crimson wrote:Except people forget that Fab plays for Spain currently regarded as one of the best international teams ever and Ozil plays for Germany a young team who hasn't complished anything
How has Germany not accomplished anything how many finals quarter finals have they reached, how many times have they been favorites, a team that hasn't accomplished anything is USA or Chile, etc Germany certainly is successful and rated #2 but many.

Spain is SO much better then germany, especially concerning the midfield, that's not even up for debate. The reason for this is a combination of experience and chemistry which germany have yet to achieve

Spain better than Germany #true

This proves that its harder for Cesc to start for Spain..
While, its easier for Ozil to start for Germany... (No Xaviniesta)

Its proven:

1- Its true, that Cesc played more games for Spain 69, while Ozil has just 38 games for Germany.. But, Cesc Started just in 36 of the 69 games.. Ozil Started in 35 of the 38 games he played for Germany.

2- When Cesc is starting for Spain, he's not playing in his favorite position.. While, Ozil does...

by Real Kandahar Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:08 pm

Real Kandahar wrote:
Pedram wrote:Thanks for confirming Ozil is the better playmaker.

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