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Post by S Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:08 am

Wow last time i noticed, the number of Brazilians plying their trade in England looks to be increasing by the day..

Chelsea boast of talents such as Lucas Piazon,Ramires,David Luiz,Oscar* and perhaps we could see Hulk is on his way to Chelsea too.

Man United have Rafael ,Fabio and now they look set to add Lucas Moura to their ranks too..

Spurs have Sandro ,Pool-Lucas ,Arsenal-Andre Santos(excuse me if i've missed out any) and there are several other talented Brazilian players who have been heavily linked with moves to England.

And these are actually some 'top' Brazilian players who represent their NT regularly.

I mean 7-8 years ago you wouldnt have imagined so many Brazilian players playing in England as i have heard stories of them not favoring the English culture and lifestyle but clearly this trend seems to be changing nowadays..

Is it because that the PL is at its peak and the kind of money in the offing that we're witnessing these many Brazilian players playing in England or is this a genuine 'trend' which is developing ?Could we see more and more Brazilian players prefer/favor England move in the future ?
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Post by Ganso Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:32 pm

I think that it went the other way around,English clubs didn't want brazilians and then it started changing.Maybe this Lucas to man u and Oscar to Chelsea wave started after Ramires and leiva's performances.specially Ramires.it will be really interesting to see lucas in man u.I think Oscar will play well regardless of how the epl works
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Post by Onyx Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:06 pm

Denilson from Arsenal. :coffee:

Who's better, Lucas or Neymar?

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Post by lszanto Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:27 pm

mtfootball wrote:Denilson from Arsenal. :coffee:

Who's better, Lucas or Neymar?

Neymar I would guess, he's starting for the Olympic squad.
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Post by NiallQuinnsdiscoPants Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:30 pm

Prefer to just trim personally

allot less painful
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Post by Guest Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:56 pm

Ramires, Lucas and Sandro are not the type of players we'll usually remember when we think of Brazil. Even if the likes of Oscar and Moura go to England, I do think that they'll flop primarily due to the lack of space and the physical nature of the Premier League.

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Post by S Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:59 pm

Nah i dont think Oscar will flop imo due to those above reasons you mentioned ,when players like Silva(the exact same thing was said about him) have thrived in the PL i'm sure Oscar can too.

I'm not sure about Lucas Moura though..Have not really seen him to make a proper judgement.
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Post by Onyx Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:05 pm

Physicality doesn't matter imo. If a player is talented then it'll show. E.g. Silva, Aguero, Modric etc.

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Post by S Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:09 pm

So going by what Ganso says its not really down to culture and lifestyle it seems..(That we're seeing many Brazilians here)

So its more like the game have evolved in the PL with a lot more technique involved as opposed to the proverbial 'kick and rush' game that English football was once famous for.
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Post by Abramovich Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:53 pm

Oscar has amazing balance and can shield the ball pretty damn well, I don't think he will flop at all.
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Post by Blue Barrett Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:27 pm

Oscar :bow:
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Post by aleumdance Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:02 pm

Arsenal has 4 Brazilians

Adre Santos

Pedro Botelho on loan to at Levante and their starting Left Back

Wellington Silva on loan to CD Alcoyano of Spanish Second Div.

and the Stagnant Denilson
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Post by Ganso Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:27 pm

denilson still is an arsenal player :facepalm: the guy is so shet,
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Post by urbaNRoots Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:13 pm

Ganso wrote:denilson still is an arsenal player :facepalm: the guy is so shet,

Had an assist last match? U MAD?

Razz yh he sucks... Sao Paolo are paying his wages though it's like we've sold him lol

As for Oscar he'll do well I think.
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Post by Babun Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:16 pm

vasanthPato wrote:Ramires, Lucas and Sandro are not the type of players we'll usually remember when we think of Brazil. Even if the likes of Oscar and Moura go to England, I do think that they'll flop primarily due to the lack of space and the physical nature of the Premier League.
Lucas Moura and lack of pace? Laughing
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Post by urbaNRoots Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:25 pm

Someone tell Babun he said lack of space
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Post by Blue Barrett Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:27 pm

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vasanthPato wrote:Ramires, Lucas and Sandro are not the type of players we'll usually remember when we think of Brazil. Even if the likes of Oscar and Moura go to England, I do think that they'll flop primarily due to the lack of space and the physical nature of the Premier League.
Lucas Moura and lack of pace? Laughing
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Post by McAgger Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:59 pm

Doni plays for us mofos :bow:
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Post by Sushi Master Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:29 am

If Brazilians can adapt to Bundesliga, I mean German culture, what's so different about England? Ain't they basically the same thing? pirat Pretty much everywhere in Europe would be a massive change in comparison to Europe, so the cultural aspect seems null to me.

It was probably due to English football not being ready for so much flair. Only recently have you seen a big rise in the number of technical players. ManC, now recently Chelsea, ManU still are all wings, and of course Arsenal.

Now I'd say they'd have a nice chance of succeeding.
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Post by Kick Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:44 am

We don't have one typical Brazilian (ok maybe DL4 is but he is a CB so it doesn't matter.)

Piazon is a lot like Mueller, Not typical.

Ramires plays nothing like any Brazilian before him.

Oscar (who should sign within a few days) is not a typical brazilian either, he is very effective and efficient, not flashy or pacy like some.
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