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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:44 am

Just in: Cristiano Ronaldo has received the Ballon d'Or for self-injury.

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Post by FennecFox7 Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:46 am

The way he took that shot I'm not surprised. Imbalance of power to say the least.
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Post by The Sanchez Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:49 am

Thought he got injuried for the bicycle he tried to do. Bad landing. Even as a BArca fan, can't help to thhink the worst... Hope he is Thumbs up
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Post by FennecFox7 Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:51 am

If it's dislocated, I don't think it'll be that bad Very Happy
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Post by The Sanchez Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:54 am

Giggity5313 wrote:If it's dislocated, I don't think it'll be that bad Very Happy

Be awful to lose him for even a week. Incredible player that really means an awful to Madrid. Great thing with Madrid is that they have plenty of depth. Classy player goes out, another one comes in. Can't really say the same with Barca tbh.
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Post by pewpew Mon Oct 08, 2012 2:08 am

Its not a dislocated shoulder Jesus Christ kids. If It was a dislocation he wouldn't be able to finish the game. It's just a shoulder sprain. He'll be back within a week.

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Post by Harmonica Mon Oct 08, 2012 2:18 am

So if the Ballon d'Or is about scoring against makeshift defenses and be one of the best players in La Liga winning team, Cronaldo should win it. If the award is about best individual performace, Messi should win it. Individually Cronaldo were nowhere near Messi this year.
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Post by The Sanchez Mon Oct 08, 2012 2:22 am

Ronaldo hasn't scored as many goals as Messi... Therefore Messi has the upper advantage. Ronaldo has an advantage through Madrid's success in the league last season in which Ronaldo made a valuable contribution. It will be a tight contest, no doubt.
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Post by LeBéninois Mon Oct 08, 2012 3:03 am

Ballon d'or is not really about all that. Journalists and managers and captains are going to vote. i don't think all of them would take all the aspects that you guys are talking about

They would just think , Who is better ? they won't sit down and start comparing each point before deciding and blablabla
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Oct 08, 2012 3:03 am

WhoScored.com ‏@WhoScored

Messi vs Ronaldo tonight: Goals 2-2, Total Shots 4-4, Successful Dribbles 4-0, Pass Accuracy 93%-68%, Touches 69-33, Ratings 8.8-8.5
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Post by The Sanchez Mon Oct 08, 2012 3:07 am

BarrileteCosmico wrote:WhoScored.com ‏@WhoScored

Messi vs Ronaldo tonight: Goals 2-2, Total Shots 4-4, Successful Dribbles 4-0, Pass Accuracy 93%-68%, Touches 69-33, Ratings 8.8-8.5

Ronaldo's rating would be lower since of the previous stats you made... hmm
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Post by Real Kandahar Mon Oct 08, 2012 3:26 am

white_star wrote:Haha who are you and you realize what you said is bullshit right? Did you make the rules or something? Does it say you must win cl or the league to get it? Ya it doesn't so don't make things up to prove a point because it's really dumb!

don't be disrespect to a fellow memeber, OLpower has contributed "constructively" to this forum alot, unlike some posters... ahem

anyawys OLpower don't read such posts, regarding ur topic, i personally believe Ronaldo is best player in real madrid and whilst messi is a better player, ronaldo is more complete, (his first goal today showed that he's physical phenomenon, scoring with his weak foot with that power!) so he is more complete...

anyways, balond'or doesn't always go to "best " player, for example 2006 cannavaro won it, but zidane deserved it? and in 2004 schevchenko won it when ronalhinho deserved it... so for his contribution to real madrid and portugal, he deserves it, IMO if it's all fair and just
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Post by Real Kandahar Mon Oct 08, 2012 3:29 am

white_star wrote:Exactly they would get desimated by barcas attack!

aww, fanboy going crazy... do you have a magical globe or are u iker the octupus?
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Post by FennecFox7 Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:10 am

jiopsi wrote:So if the Ballon d'Or is about scoring against makeshift defenses and be one of the best players in La Liga winning team, Cronaldo should win it. If the award is about best individual performace, Messi should win it. Individually Cronaldo were nowhere near Messi this year.
That's a bit of an insult to adriano and mascherano. Their real weakness is highballs, and they dealt with them surprisingly well.
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Post by Harmonica Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:20 am

Giggity5313 wrote:
jiopsi wrote:So if the Ballon d'Or is about scoring against makeshift defenses and be one of the best players in La Liga winning team, Cronaldo should win it. If the award is about best individual performace, Messi should win it. Individually Cronaldo were nowhere near Messi this year.
That's a bit of an insult to adriano and mascherano. Their real weakness is highballs, and they dealt with them surprisingly well.
They did good, it's point rather against OP, using scoring nowadays against Barca to indicate something defining.

Montoya Mascherano Adriano Alba

is a far cry defensively from them days

Alves Pique Puyol Abidal

Messi was marked more, he had better more organized defense in front of him most of the time, and still produced the same end product. If anything, this match just proved why Messi should win Ballon d'Or.
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Post by windkick Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:53 am

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Mamad wrote:Ronaldo isn't better than messi but he deserves to win Ballon d'or.

Statement makes no sense.
why? messi is the better player overall but cr7 has had the better season, and dont start telling me he didnt have a better season cause i dont care, im just explaining you why his comment is understantable

If you say Messi is better, but some one else deserves it more then yes I don't think that makes sense. The award is for the best player. Surprised no one has started a thread about his Vanilla Ice hair cut he had today

All jokes aside (yes I was joking about the hair), Iniesta is likely to win it this year. I think in order to avoid any issues with people raging over Messi winning it again or people claiming Ronaldo wasn't as good as Messi and fell short to deliver at the Euros...it would just be easier to give it to the Euro's best player (already won Europes best player award). Plus I do think it's about time a Spanish player wins it, with the historic back to back to back wins for Spain it would be a crime if a Spanish player didn't win it. I think the writing is on the walls Iniesta gets it with Messi/Ronaldo coming in 2nd and 3rd.
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Post by Real Kandahar Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:46 am

jiopsi wrote:
Giggity5313 wrote:
jiopsi wrote:So if the Ballon d'Or is about scoring against makeshift defenses and be one of the best players in La Liga winning team, Cronaldo should win it. If the award is about best individual performace, Messi should win it. Individually Cronaldo were nowhere near Messi this year.
That's a bit of an insult to adriano and mascherano. Their real weakness is highballs, and they dealt with them surprisingly well.
They did good, it's point rather against OP, using scoring nowadays against Barca to indicate something defining.

Montoya Mascherano Adriano Alba

is a far cry defensively from them days

Alves Pique Puyol Abidal

Messi was marked more, he had better more organized defense in front of him most of the time, and still produced the same end product. If anything, this match just proved why Messi should win Ballon d'Or.

what end product? a tap in and dead ball shot?

i know he contributed to game match more, but in front of the defense in open play he didn't score

oh and btw, don't bring this "weak defense" argument plz, how about super cups? how about april el clasico? how about copa del rey camp nou? u had ur full squad, so no excuses
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Post by billionmillion Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:26 am

How Ronaldo was marked? he got all the space in the world. Twice face to face with goalkeeper. Barca's defense became so terrible its a shame for a team like barcelona. Madrid's defense is 2 levels above, they never let you alone with goalkeeper, they tackle and they fight. they will get red card but they will not give you space
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Post by pewpew Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:48 am

Why does Barcelona blame their defense for Ronaldos goals when Messi's first goal clearly was a big mistake from a Madrid defender(Pepe)

Clutching straws much :brickwall:

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Post by white_star Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:12 pm

Real Kandahar wrote:
white_star wrote:Exactly they would get desimated by barcas attack!

aww, fanboy going crazy... do you have a magical globe or are u iker the octupus?

This has nothing to do with being a fanboy. I presented what I think would happen. It's your opinion to think different.

I did not insult him read te post and come back later.
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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:13 pm

Pique is shat why would people even mention him, he has been Ronaldo's bitch along with Adriano everytime he has faced him ffs

Also last season when we won 2-1 away, Pique was benched and Marcherano started ahead of him also Puyol started and so did Alves, didn't stop Ronaldo from scoring... stop this not first team defence bullshite, he would score regardless ffs
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Post by Onyx Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:19 pm

Pique use to handle Ronaldo alright before. The problem is Barca's defending imo. It's got worse imo.

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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:37 pm

Puyol used to drag that defence on his own, but he has gotten older.... who will replace him as the experienced one having to shepherd that joke of a defence?? Silva could have but Barca obviously thought he wasn't good enough Rolling Eyes
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Post by danyjr Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:15 pm

It wasn't a question of Barcelona not thinking Silva isn't good enough. Not every team has the money to spend €40 million on a dinosaur only to keep him on the bench.
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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:22 pm

wait, what?? Silva to be on the bench for whom??? Pique?? gimmeabreak lol

if you think about it Alves cost as much as well and also Silva is established wc defender, not to mention he quickly adapts to any league, he is doing great atm for PSG
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Post by danyjr Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:08 pm

This is the dinosaur I was talking about.

Spoiler:
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