Atletico Madrid 2013/14 VS 2014/15

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:04 pm

2013/14
Courtois
Juanfran - Miranda - Godin - Filipe
Turan - Gabi - Thiago - Koke
Costa - Villa/Garcia

2014/15
Oblak
Juanfran - Miranda - Godin - Ansaldi/Siqueira
Turan - Gabi - Thiago - Griezmann
Mandz - Koke(Correa?)

Still looks like quite a powerful team. Mandz for Costa with 40 million to spare is a great trade, but Siqueira and Oblak for Courtois and Filipe Luis not so much. And while Griezmann gives them more of a pure winger, something they were lacking, they were already pretty strong on wide options. Angel Correa is an exciting player but probably too raw right now for the high level Atleti achieved last season.
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Post by Kick Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:10 pm

I honestly don't see them hitting the heights of last season.

They'll still finished top 3 easily though.
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Post by Onyx Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:35 pm

Griezmann could also play up front with Koke on the left. Also yeh, they'll still finish in the top 3 at least.

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Post by terrance511 Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:16 am

imo, their depth improved.
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Post by Donuts Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:22 am

so long as they have turan, koke, godin and most importantly simoene they'll be fine.
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Post by The Franchise Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:35 am

Not the biggest fan of Griezmann, dont think he offers much when he isnt finding the back of the net. Which would be okay if he was a striker but he's apparently a winger.

Anyway, this team was never about individuals and alot of the core remain still. I think keeping the same team as last year or changing up as they have been forced to, it would be difficult either way to do aswell as last year. Its just not realistic for any team to expect to win their league and get to a CL final.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Jul 30, 2014 12:28 pm

the most important thing for me is that their midfield is untouched. It's the hardest working unit of the team and they didnt lose anyone.

the line of defense is alright because i rate Siqueira, i know he is good.

after, Griezmann and Mandzukic, plus Raul Garcia, are good players that will find the next quite a lot so i am not worried. Still a good team, as long as they are in the top 3 in la liga and make a run everywhere, then the team will have retained the same quality to me.
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Post by Curtinho Wed Jul 30, 2014 2:09 pm

Oblak
Juanfran - Miranda - Godin - Siqueira
Turan - Gabi - Tiago - Koke
Griezmann - Mandzukic

IMO. I actually think they have a better team this year than last year, but we'll see. I don't think they will win the league because even last year I think Real or Barca should have won but stumbled at inopportune moments. I still think Atletico will put up a huge fight with this squad though.
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Post by The Franchise Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:38 pm

A problem I have theoriesed is that these teams that base their game on running/covering distances have their 2-3 year spells and after that cant summon the force of will any more.

Most teams who play at a high level cant sustain it for many many years so thats normal, but teams like Atletico lose alot without that effort because they are so much more reliant on hard work than quality.

Maybe not this season, maybe not at all, but we will see. If they drop off in intensity, they lose alot of what they are good at.
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Post by futbol Wed Jul 30, 2014 7:17 pm

They wouldn't be able to defend their title no matter what they do IMO. The amount of jammy late goals that gave them the 1-0 victory was unreal last season. Don't see that working again. And even if it did I don't see Mehdrid and Barca finishing with less than 90 points again.

They can still go far in the Cup competitions though. In 1 off games the lineup posted above can beat anyone.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Jul 30, 2014 7:21 pm

The Franchise wrote:A problem I have theoriesed is that these teams that base their game on running/covering distances have their 2-3 year spells and after that cant summon the force of will any more.

Most teams who play at a high level cant sustain it for many many years so thats normal, but teams like Atletico lose alot without that effort because they are so much more reliant on hard work than quality.

Maybe not this season, maybe not at all, but we will see. If they drop off in intensity, they lose alot of what they are good at.
Doesn't matter, in 2 years when Martino flops at both the Copa America and Centenary Cup Simeone will get his chance with Argentina.
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Post by The Franchise Wed Jul 30, 2014 7:45 pm

Too soon for him to be forced into coaching NT's. Still so young, why coach once every 3 months when you can do it all the time?

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Jul 30, 2014 7:56 pm

Because this will be his only chance to coach prime Messi. And Argentines are patriots and don't say no to the NT.
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