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Re: Return of the Top Defenses of the Top 5 Leagues 2014-2015 (stats)
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Claudio Bravo is the goalkeeper with most clean sheets (20) in the top-5 leagues so far this season #fcblive [via opta]
Barcelona conceded 31 goals in 52 games this season, average of 0,59 goals/game #fcblive Club's season record: 0,62 in 2010/11 [via fcb]
lol RIP the myth of Victor Valdes the irreplaceable GOAT Barca goalkeeper. Random La Liga goalkeeper already breaking his records in his first season. With Alba, Mascherano and a washed up Alves infront of him instead of Puyol, Abidal and prime Alves.
Barcelona conceded 31 goals in 52 games this season, average of 0,59 goals/game #fcblive Club's season record: 0,62 in 2010/11 [via fcb]
lol RIP the myth of Victor Valdes the irreplaceable GOAT Barca goalkeeper. Random La Liga goalkeeper already breaking his records in his first season. With Alba, Mascherano and a washed up Alves infront of him instead of Puyol, Abidal and prime Alves.
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imo proves that Lurcho is a GOAT coach who brought immense stability to Barca with his clever long ball approach.
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Re: Return of the Top Defenses of the Top 5 Leagues 2014-2015 (stats)
Who is Lucho? Barca is coached by Coachessi. Pls go.
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Re: Return of the Top Defenses of the Top 5 Leagues 2014-2015 (stats)
That's because Agent Pep sabotaged Manu Neuer (currently at 19 clean sheets) by giving Pepe Reina starts against Werder Bremen and Eintracht Frankfurt and thus robbed SuperManu of two more clean sheetsFußball wrote:Claudio Bravo is the goalkeeper with most clean sheets (20) in the top-5 leagues so far this season #fcblive [via opta]
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Re: Return of the Top Defenses of the Top 5 Leagues 2014-2015 (stats)
Fußball wrote:Claudio Bravo is the goalkeeper with most clean sheets (20) in the top-5 leagues so far this season #fcblive [via opta]
Barcelona conceded 31 goals in 52 games this season, average of 0,59 goals/game #fcblive Club's season record: 0,62 in 2010/11 [via fcb]
lol RIP the myth of Victor Valdes the irreplaceable GOAT Barca goalkeeper. Random La Liga goalkeeper already breaking his records in his first season. With Alba, Mascherano and a washed up Alves infront of him instead of Puyol, Abidal and prime Alves.
RIP allasfcb tactical analysis twitter posts.
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Re: Return of the Top Defenses of the Top 5 Leagues 2014-2015 (stats)
Our defence have improved a lot. Remeber it used to be over 1.8 goals per game but now it's 0.98.
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Re: Return of the Top Defenses of the Top 5 Leagues 2014-2015 (stats)
You should behold the defense stats of Borussia M'gladbach.
Very interesting thing is if you look at where Basel and Gladbach ended up in 12/13, 13/14 and 14/15. Yann Sommer FTW!!
Final Stats 2012/13:
Final Stats 2013/14:
Stats 2014/15 so far:
Very interesting thing is if you look at where Basel and Gladbach ended up in 12/13, 13/14 and 14/15. Yann Sommer FTW!!
Final Stats 2012/13:
Final Stats 2013/14:
Stats 2014/15 so far:
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Not loving the shady calculations being made here that have Juve conceding = league goals to Bayern (albeit in 1 less game) but less in domestic cup, super cup AND Europe and still being distant 2nd to Bayern tbh
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Re: Return of the Top Defenses of the Top 5 Leagues 2014-2015 (stats)
@Tomwin Lannister
You mean Barca, I presume? Well, try it this way:
Barca: (19+5+7)/(35+8+10) = 31/53 = 0,5849
Juve: (19+3+5+2)/(34+4+10+1) = 29/49 = 0,5918
You mean Barca, I presume? Well, try it this way:
Barca: (19+5+7)/(35+8+10) = 31/53 = 0,5849
Juve: (19+3+5+2)/(34+4+10+1) = 29/49 = 0,5918
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All this FCB vs FCB talk has riddled my brain
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rwo power wrote:You should behold the defense stats of Borussia M'gladbach.Is Yann Sommer the best GK in the world? Is he better than Ter Stegen...?
Very interesting thing is if you look at where Basel and Gladbach ended up in 12/13, 13/14 and 14/15. Yann Sommer FTW!!
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Final Stats 2012/13:
Final Stats 2013/14:
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Well, some people in the Borussia M'gladbach forum certainly believe so. At first they were in total panic when they heard that MAtS was leaving, but by now the consensus is that Yann Sommer did not only completely replace him as shot-stopper, but he is somawhat better footballing-wise and he makes less mistakes.free_cat wrote:Is Yann Sommer the best GK in the world? Is he better than Ter Stegen...?
Squawka thinks he's not bad either: http://tinyurl.com/top5gks-20150503
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What about his feet play? Is he as good as Ter stegen?
Got to say that Ter Stegen is younger and far from a finished product. Do you think his potential is higher than Sommers?
Got to say that Ter Stegen is younger and far from a finished product. Do you think his potential is higher than Sommers?
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Better than Marc-André ter Stegen was for Gladbach in the last seasons. I can't really judge MAtS this season as I didn't see him for the full match lengths for Barca, although I heard he has improved considerably compared to his Gladbach days.free_cat wrote:What about his feet play? Is he as good as Ter stegen?
Hm. Good question. I'm not really keen on trying to judge potential as this is very theoretical. Due to MAtS' youth, he might get even better, of course, but then, there are already fresh GK youngsters in Germany that have a supposedly even greater talent than MAtS or Bernd Leno - but one can never say whether they will really fulfill this projected ceiling.free_cat wrote:Got to say that Ter Stegen is younger and far from a finished product. Do you think his potential is higher than Sommers?
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By the way, a very interesting thing is that GoalImpact (which is a statistical tool that evaluates how much a player is involved in getting his team a better goal difference and that also takes into account the other players playing at the same moment and a lot of further data) currently lists Yann Sommer with a GI of 150, which is the second highest GoalImpact after Manuel Neuer in the BL and which confirms my above observation that it is indeed very much Sommer who is responsible for the development of the defensive records of Basel and Gladbach, respectively.
Nr.1 in general: http://www.ligainsider.de/manuel-neuer_114/
Nr.2 in the BL: http://www.ligainsider.de/yann-sommer_2577/
GoalImpact and how it works: http://www.goalimpact.com/p/faq.html
GoalImpact Algorithm: http://www.goalimpact.com/p/blog-page.html
By the way, here is the website where you can find the GIs of Premier League players: http://www.premierinsider.co.uk/
Nr.1 in general: http://www.ligainsider.de/manuel-neuer_114/
Nr.2 in the BL: http://www.ligainsider.de/yann-sommer_2577/
GoalImpact and how it works: http://www.goalimpact.com/p/faq.html
GoalImpact Algorithm: http://www.goalimpact.com/p/blog-page.html
By the way, here is the website where you can find the GIs of Premier League players: http://www.premierinsider.co.uk/
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11th in Serie A, but still part of the top 50 best defenses in the top 5 leagues.
Form is temporary, class is permanent (:
Form is temporary, class is permanent (:
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Barcelona has the best defense in the world
Barca: 0.60
Juventus: 0.62
Bayern: 0.71
Atletico: 0.78
Chelsea: 0.81
Real Madrid: 0.90
PSG: 0.93
Arsenal: 0.98
Manchester United: 1.02
Manchester City: 1.14
Even more impressive when you consider that Barca played PSG in the group stages of the CL and then City, PSG again, Bayern in the knockout rounds and some toughies even in the Copa del Rey (Villarreal and Atletico). Not only the best attack in the world but also best defense
Juventus: 0.62
Bayern: 0.71
Atletico: 0.78
Chelsea: 0.81
Real Madrid: 0.90
PSG: 0.93
Arsenal: 0.98
Manchester United: 1.02
Manchester City: 1.14
Even more impressive when you consider that Barca played PSG in the group stages of the CL and then City, PSG again, Bayern in the knockout rounds and some toughies even in the Copa del Rey (Villarreal and Atletico). Not only the best attack in the world but also best defense
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Re: Return of the Top Defenses of the Top 5 Leagues 2014-2015 (stats)
Obviously Barca don't have the best "defense" but definitely the best defensive system: pressing + possession + opponents can't commit too many men forward and leave space behind against Barca's front three if they don't want to get rekt. Individually Pique and Alves stepped it up and the goalkeepers have been great and Rakitic and Iniesta have sacrificed their games for some serious hustling. Mascherano and Alba are improveable (even though I don't have clue who aside from Alaba, who is not getable, would be a serious upgrade on Alba, fullback position is lacking these days).
Bayern have the best back 4: Alaba-Boateng-Benatia-Lahm with Neuer behind them. Fortunately agent Pep turned Lahm into an average midfielder, moved Bayern's defensive line 70 meter further forward and Alaba doesn't want to be a fullback anymore (Boateng probably doesn't want to be a defender anymore either after what Messi did to him, Pep can turn him into a midfielder now ). So there is that.
Bayern have the best back 4: Alaba-Boateng-Benatia-Lahm with Neuer behind them. Fortunately agent Pep turned Lahm into an average midfielder, moved Bayern's defensive line 70 meter further forward and Alaba doesn't want to be a fullback anymore (Boateng probably doesn't want to be a defender anymore either after what Messi did to him, Pep can turn him into a midfielder now ). So there is that.
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