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Post by ahmad25 Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:13 pm

They were showing world cup 1962 on TV and teams were defending so laughable that i decided to ask this question. Basically anyone could score amazing goals on his own

Neymar's agent describes it better:
"If Pele played nowadays, he would be inferior to Neymar. In his time, all the defenders were slow and the fitness levels were not the same."
hmm
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Post by Art Morte Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:15 pm

Impossible to know, you cannot compare players too far out of their time. Pele himself would have been better with modern coaching and sports science.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:18 pm

Probably not considering he's in his 70s.
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Post by Harmonica Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:19 pm

Pele played as full professional in the half-amateur era, that was a huge edge which would be nullified in the modern game.

Also he was a bit of a hype job, 3 World Cups, non of where he was even the teams best player. Over 1000 goals, yeah if you count goals he scored in park football and against some nazis in the movies.
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Post by jibers Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:22 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Probably not considering he's in his 70s.


rofl

This is prime Mole stuff ffs Proud
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Post by Kaladin Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:22 pm

We need the era adjustment formula
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Post by jibers Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:23 pm

Harmonica wrote:Pele played as full professional in the half-amateur era, that was a huge edge which would be nullified in the modern game.

Also he was a bit of a hype job, 3 World Cups, non of where he was even the teams best player. Over 1000 goals, yeah if you count goals he scored in park football and against some nazis in the movies.


How many WCs does Taxessi have again? (:

Funny how all of Peles teammates all said he was their best player in 1970. I believe you though.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:24 pm

El Shaarawy wrote:We need the era adjustment formula


Messi at 70: Needs 10 pills of Viagra per day (adjusted for small penis)
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Post by RealGunner Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:26 pm

I think I believe harmonica since he has all the stats to back his claims. Pele's 'important contribution' in all 3 WCs was lacking in oppose to players like Enzo Perez, Messi, Biglia and Gonzalo Higuain at WC14.

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Post by jibers Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:27 pm

RealGunner wrote:I think I believe harmonica since he has all the stats to back his claims. Pele's 'important contribution' in all 3 WCs was lacking in oppose to players like Enzo Perez, Messi, Biglia and Gonzalo Higuain at WC14.



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Post by Ganso Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:38 pm

El Shaarawy wrote:We need the era adjustment formula

ROFLLLLLL
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Post by Perucho21 Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:40 pm

Art Morte wrote:Impossible to know, you cannot compare players too far out of their time. Pele himself would have been better with modern coaching and sports science.


I agree. With the advancement in Technology, science and injury specialists i feel like players from generations ago could've been better than they were.
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Post by LeBéninois Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:48 pm

If Plato was still alive today , would he be considered as a genius ?

You can't just take a legend from one era and put him in another era ignoring all the others factors of the era he lived in. What kind of nonsense is that ?
If Pélé was born in this era he'd have been a different player same as if Neymar was born in the 40's : He would have been a different player/person.
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Post by jibers Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:28 pm

If Messi played in Peles era he wouldnt have made it because the growth hormone treatment wasn't created by then. He would have been Thiago Messi's height ffs.
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Post by farfan Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:55 pm

Messi didn't deliver in the CA , get over it TS .

seriously, is this going to be the gist of your contribution to this board ? endless drivel about how Messi is the GOAT and Maradana & Pele not being good enough to undo his shoes ?
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Post by Rebaño Sagrado Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:57 pm

That's billionmillion for you.
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Post by Highburied Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:06 pm

It was much harder during Pele's era because the ball was heavier and shoes not as sophisticated as today.

Not sure if they had Gatorade back then.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:08 pm

but.. it's got electrolytes?!?
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Post by M99 Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:09 pm

Would Pele be a top 10 player today? Perhaps.

He would still have more World Cups than Messi.
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Post by Art Morte Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:11 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:but.. it's got electrolytes?!?

Let's not get into technicalities.
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Post by futbol Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:23 pm

ahmad25 wrote:

Neymar's agent describes it better:
"If Pele played nowadays, he would be inferior to Neymar. In his time, all the defenders were slow and the fitness levels were not the same."
hmm


Same Flopmar who lost his shit because he wasn't getting the usual modern day LOL Liga ref protection in Copa America? If he was put in the 60s and 70s when real men used to play the sport, on football pitches where the grass was made of stinging nettle plants with a football manufactured of buffallo testicle leather, Flopmar would beg his mom to send him to Vietnam war as long as he didn't have to become a football player.

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Post by The Demon of Carthage Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:27 pm

There's the guy who invented the theorem and then there's the bunch of students passionately, but blindly, applying it.

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Post by jibers Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:37 pm

M99 wrote:Would Pele be a top 10 player today? Perhaps.

He would still have more World Cups than Messi.
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Post by ahmad25 Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:20 pm

I agree that "if" Pele had this or had that he would be better. But without "if" he is still inferior no? my question is for example if Brazil 1962 faces Barcelona 2015. who would win?

Or lets say you go to another galaxy to present the planet earth. Which team you would take with yourself?
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Post by Ganso Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:24 pm

jibers wrote:If Messi played in Peles era he wouldnt have made it because the growth hormone treatment wasn't created by then. He would have been Thiago Messi's height ffs.

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