Should ronaldo be on ballandor podium considering the fact that Neymar and suarez have been better ?

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Post by Bankz Sun Nov 22, 2015 1:17 pm

@jibers so what if suarez finished above him in the UEFA player of the year?

Messi came third in the ballon d'or behind cristiano but was second in the FIFA world player of the year ahead of cristiano in the same 2007.

Ronaldo nazario came second to mathieus in the ballon d'or voting in 1996 but was given the FIFA world Player of the year in that same year.

Ronaldinho didn't feature in the ballon d'or in 2004 but was given the FIFA world player of the year, ahead of schevchenko who finished above him in the BDO voting in that same year.

Ronaldo didn't feature in the ballon d'or in 2003 but was 3rd in the FIFA world player of the year ahead of nedved who won the ballon d'or that same year.

So what's your point really? An honest question..


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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Nov 22, 2015 1:19 pm

Suarez hasn't been better than Neymar at any stage of his Barca career lol.

Although Bankz you need to stop with this Neymar is the best player in the world nonsense, while Messi around no one comes close to being able to claim that.
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Post by RealGunner Sun Nov 22, 2015 1:21 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Suarez hasn't been better than Neymar at any stage of his Barca career lol.

Although Bankz you need to stop with this Neymar is the best player in the world nonsense, while Messi around no one comes close to being able to claim that.


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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Nov 22, 2015 1:27 pm

Let's see.

He was carrying Barca while Suarez was banned (Messi wasn't even good in that period) he was the top scorer in the CL, he created the most chances in the team apart from Messi.

Since Messi has been injured he's clearly been better as proven by the fact he's the one getting the hype generally and not Suarez and again last night he created the most chances.

Easy to forget that until April Suarez missed so many chances that he made the Dalglish Suarez look efficient and again this season he has started off slow by comparison.

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Post by Bankz Sun Nov 22, 2015 1:32 pm

Lol, neymar isn't better than messi and only a daft person will say that.. Did I actually come out as such? rofl if you thought so then that's far from the truth.. Messi is the best and I wouldn't even need to elaborate on it.
I was only emphasizing that Neymar is the best player in the world (in the absence of messi) and that isn't even debatable at this point..

Was only using my opportunity to rub it in before Neymar finally goes back to dishwashing now that popssi has arrived. Laughing
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Post by jibers Sun Nov 22, 2015 1:51 pm

Bankz wrote:@jibers so what if suarez finished above him in the UEFA player of the year?

Messi came third in the ballon d'or behind cristiano but was second in the FIFA world player of the year ahead of cristiano in the same 2007.

Ronaldo nazario came second to mathieus in the ballon d'or voting in 1996 but was given the FIFA world Player of the year in that same year.

Ronaldinho didn't feature in the ballon d'or in 2004 but was given the FIFA world player of the year, ahead of schevchenko who finished above him in the BDO voting in that same year.

Ronaldo didn't feature in the ballon d'or in 2003 but was 3rd in the FIFA world player of the year ahead of nedved who won the ballon d'or that same year.

So what's your point really? An honest question..


You brought up Suarez being missing for 25% of the year when those missing games have nothing to do with the calendar year 2015...which is what the Ballon D'or is about...

When those missing games where taken into account for the UEFA best player in Europe, which took the whole 2014/15 season performances into account, Neymar didn't even finish top 3. That was my point. Pretty self explanatory no?

The UEFA best player in Europe is different from the original Ballon D'or, and the FIFA Ballon D'or. Using those past awards as a metric when they are both combined as one now is a bit stupid...
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Post by Cruijf Sun Nov 22, 2015 4:20 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Although Bankz you need to stop with this Neymar is the best player in the world nonsense, while Messi around no one comes close to being able to claim that.


"Is it time to ask whether Neymar is the best full stop? I think so tbh."

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