so the mighty samba dancers are out

dnmac4 wrote:I just find it cowardly to wait until Messi/Argentina or Ronaldo/Portugal for that matter have a bad showing and kill them for it, and when they have a good showing the same posters hide or make excuses. None of the players on Brazil are worse today then they were yesterday, and Messi is the same player he was before the Copa. This should clue some of these idiots in on how bad coaching can destroy a good group of players.

omarish wrote:Marcelo, Kaka and Hulk would have done a better job.

Guiltybystander wrote:Oh, be sure of it.

Hahahahahahha. Why are we cowards btw?
I hate Brazil anyway.

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Great attitude but the Argentina part is unneeded

rsinatra wrote:Unlike some people on this forum, I won't try to find excuses. It was simply pathetic. We had all the chances in the world, but bad finishing + awesome defending stopped us.

The penalties? A joke.

Mano? Possibly receivng a goodbye call from Teixeira right now .

Now I hope for a Uruguay x Chile final.

P.S. Argentina, 18 years without any trophies. :lol!:

Now, Neymar, Ganso, Elano, come back to Santos, this is OUR year, let's win the Brasileirao and the CWC!!!

Jack Daniels wrote:I merged some threads here..

Rsinatra's thread title may cause sissy girl fights so i included it.

Giovanni10 wrote:

Jack Daniels wrote:I merged some threads here..

Rsinatra's thread title may cause sissy girl fights so i included it.

Ugh, I didn't want my thread merged... I wasn't trying to start a sissy-fight. I genuinely wanted to discuss the point about whether Marcelo could have been that little bit of extra flair that Brazil needed? Especially seeing as though Dani Alves was dropped for a more defensive drilled Maicon on the right. Menezes should have just swallowed his pride and called up Marcelo- who (not because Im an RM fan) I feel was the best Left fullback in the business last year.

But as I say, maybe a thread is needed to discuss all the blatant exclusions, that in the end weakened the squad.

Giovanni10 wrote:Might've? I think you're underestimating the attacking abilities of Marcelo. Also, Andre Santos' penalty was a shocker, I don't care how bad the pitch was, his technique was all wrong in taking the penalty, it was fluffed dink of sorts.

Now I'm not blaming him for the exit, he actually had a pretty decent tournament and deserved his spot at LB. If I were Menezes I would have had that squad playing a 4-4-2 with a double pivot and dropped Ganso. I know a lot of people out there like Ganso, I do too, but lets be fair- he did not impose himself on the game. Brazil tried to force a formation that relies on a CAM and the CAM did not produce. They should have set up 4-4-2 with wingplay, A left hand-side with Marcelo LW/LM and Andre Santos LB behind him would have been awesome. Pato could have played right side with Maicon. A centre forward like fred in the middle with Neymar in the hole.

The only problem with the 4-4-2, was that the central midfield would have needed to be kept tight and tidy, something that I fear Ramires and Lucas would not have been capable of. Sandro would have been perfect then, but unfortunately got injured.