Who was the last world class attacker Italy produced?

Insigne, Berardiand Gabbi are the only ones really who should be kept an eye on. But, i doubt all of them will be WC. I'm kinda confused why Vazquez and Bonaventura aren't utilized more often, certainly they'd warrant a few games here and there, instead, its been Zaza---Pelle lol

Also, forgot about Bernardeschi, could turn out into a gem, despite being in Antonelli's back pocket last game

I dont think Italy will have a problem finding potential quality midfielders and defenders over the next few years.There's some very good talent in both departments.

Had Italy got Dybala to represent them though,the attack would've been genuinely sorted for the future.

What does one mean when they say "world class"?

Such a loaded term.

This debate is moot if that can't be properly defined and I don't think it ever has been or ever will be.

@What McLewis said (I was just about to write "First define 'world class', please" - but McLewis beat me to it ^^)

McLewis wrote:What does one mean when they say "world class"?

Such a loaded term.

This debate is moot if that can't be properly defined and I don't think it ever has been or ever will be.

Means absolutely nothing but most people here don't understand football.

S wrote:I dont think Italy will have a problem finding potential quality midfielders and defenders over the next few years.There's some very good talent in both departments.

Had Italy got Dybala to represent them though,the attack would've been genuinely sorted for the future.

True enough, the Argentines they've let go...Icardi and Dybala would've given them an invaluable boost up front

ES wrote:

S wrote:I dont think Italy will have a problem finding potential quality midfielders and defenders over the next few years.There's some very good talent in both departments.

Had Italy got Dybala to represent them though,the attack would've been genuinely sorted for the future.

True enough, the Argentines they've let go...Icardi and Dybala would've given them an invaluable boost up front

Dymbala will challenge Neymar for the Ballon D'or 2020.

jibers wrote:

McLewis wrote:What does one mean when they say "world class"?

Such a loaded term.

This debate is moot if that can't be properly defined and I don't think it ever has been or ever will be.

Means absolutely nothing but most people here don't understand football.

The term world-class meaning nothing didn't stop you from calling Alonso to have never been WC in his career, countless of times.

Valkyrja wrote:

jibers wrote:

McLewis wrote:What does one mean when they say "world class"?

Such a loaded term.

This debate is moot if that can't be properly defined and I don't think it ever has been or ever will be.

Means absolutely nothing but most people here don't understand football.

The term world-class meaning nothing didn't stop you from calling Alonso to have never been WC in his career, countless of times.

I use it because people here throw the word around so it is a way for me to show that he is not on the level that people think he is. The term world class in itself means nothing, just like tiki taka.

Then again you are the same kid that said Ronaldo is a better footballer than Messi. Stick to crayons son.

World class has a very specific meaning lol, it's just been misused so often that meaning has been lost.

I've grown to hate the term 'World class'

For most people on here it seems to mean that there's barely a handful of players in the history of football better than you otherwise you're not WC. Which disqualifies all but like 5 players on the planet

And others say you should be top 5-10ish in your position out of active players. By either definition Italy haven't had a 'World class' attacker in years.

As for the defence argument, that's borderline retarded when Italy have Barzagli, Bonucci, Chiellini in central defence. If that's not up there with the best for some people then I can't be arsed with that. Same 3 defenders who have been either top or top 3 for like the last 4 Years in a goals conceded table amongst the top European teams from the top leagues.

Tomwin Lannister wrote:I've grown to hate the term 'World class'

For most people on here it seems to mean that there's barely a handful of players in the history of football better than you otherwise you're not WC. Which disqualifies all but like 5 players on the planet

And others say you should be top 5-10ish in your position out of active players. By either definition Italy haven't had a 'World class' attacker in years.

As for the defence argument, that's borderline retarded when Italy have Barzagli, Bonucci, Chiellini in central defence. If that's not up there with the best for some people then I can't be arsed with that. Same 3 defenders who have been either top or top 3 for like the last 4 Years in a goals conceded table amongst the top European teams from the top leagues.

Did anyone doubt Italys defence? What post?

jibers wrote:

Valkyrja wrote:

jibers wrote:

Means absolutely nothing but most people here don't understand football.

The term world-class meaning nothing didn't stop you from calling Alonso to have never been WC in his career, countless of times.

I use it because people here throw the word around so it is a way for me to show that he is not on the level that people think he is. The term world class in itself means nothing, just like tiki taka.

Then again you are the same kid that said Ronaldo was greater than Messi.

Personal opinion, it's not like I've compared Heskey to Messi. By the way, I'm not the only one who said that R9 at his peak was better than Messi.

jibers wrote:

Tomwin Lannister wrote:I've grown to hate the term 'World class'

For most people on here it seems to mean that there's barely a handful of players in the history of football better than you otherwise you're not WC. Which disqualifies all but like 5 players on the planet

And others say you should be top 5-10ish in your position out of active players. By either definition Italy haven't had a 'World class' attacker in years.

As for the defence argument, that's borderline retarded when Italy have Barzagli, Bonucci, Chiellini in central defence. If that's not up there with the best for some people then I can't be arsed with that. Same 3 defenders who have been either top or top 3 for like the last 4 Years in a goals conceded table amongst the top European teams from the top leagues.

Did anyone doubt Italys defence? What post?

2nd post, no top class defenders. Gotta phone the lads at juve and let them know they're all crap brb

jibers wrote:

Tomwin Lannister wrote:I've grown to hate the term 'World class'

For most people on here it seems to mean that there's barely a handful of players in the history of football better than you otherwise you're not WC. Which disqualifies all but like 5 players on the planet

And others say you should be top 5-10ish in your position out of active players. By either definition Italy haven't had a 'World class' attacker in years.

As for the defence argument, that's borderline retarded when Italy have Barzagli, Bonucci, Chiellini in central defence. If that's not up there with the best for some people then I can't be arsed with that. Same 3 defenders who have been either top or top 3 for like the last 4 Years in a goals conceded table amongst the top European teams from the top leagues.

Did anyone doubt Italys defence? What post?

Valkyrja wrote:You could also ask who was their last top class defender

valkyrja at it again.

up there with his 'higuain was our best player in the 07-08 season and its not even close' comment.

S wrote:

jibers wrote:

Tomwin Lannister wrote:I've grown to hate the term 'World class'

For most people on here it seems to mean that there's barely a handful of players in the history of football better than you otherwise you're not WC. Which disqualifies all but like 5 players on the planet

And others say you should be top 5-10ish in your position out of active players. By either definition Italy haven't had a 'World class' attacker in years.

As for the defence argument, that's borderline retarded when Italy have Barzagli, Bonucci, Chiellini in central defence. If that's not up there with the best for some people then I can't be arsed with that. Same 3 defenders who have been either top or top 3 for like the last 4 Years in a goals conceded table amongst the top European teams from the top leagues.

Did anyone doubt Italys defence? What post?

Valkyrja wrote:You could also ask who was their last top class defender

valkyrja at it again.

up there with his 'higuain was our best player in the 07-08 season and its not even close' comment.

This guy has to be a troll account.

You guys can take your defender comparison somewhere BTW.

World class means cream of the crop footballers. It has meaning just been misused. The level at which Del Piero or Totti played in their prime they were good enough for most top teams as their important player. That level or class is world class.

Currently no Italian attacker , striker, winger or attacking midfielder or some one who can do something in final third plays for any top team. No one will even get into spurs 11. That is current level.

I don't think it's cycle. There is something wrong with the youth system. It has been too long.

Berardi will get into that Spurs XI,no doubt.

This current Insigne would too.

Valkyrja said  shareable opinions  ,  I read nothing of strange,   I often agree with him (great poster) as about R9 at his peak > Messi ( who saw him alive,  it knows. )

S wrote:

jibers wrote:

Tomwin Lannister wrote:I've grown to hate the term 'World class'

For most people on here it seems to mean that there's barely a handful of players in the history of football better than you otherwise you're not WC. Which disqualifies all but like 5 players on the planet

And others say you should be top 5-10ish in your position out of active players. By either definition Italy haven't had a 'World class' attacker in years.

As for the defence argument, that's borderline retarded when Italy have Barzagli, Bonucci, Chiellini in central defence. If that's not up there with the best for some people then I can't be arsed with that. Same 3 defenders who have been either top or top 3 for like the last 4 Years in a goals conceded table amongst the top European teams from the top leagues.

Did anyone doubt Italys defence? What post?

Valkyrja wrote:You could also ask who was their last top class defender

valkyrja at it again.

up there with his 'higuain was our best player in the 07-08 season and its not even close' comment.

Mistaken that with 08-09. he finished strong 07-08 though. as for Italy's defenders, they are good. among the best ? no way

Valkyrja wrote:as for Italy's defenders, they are good. among the best ? no way

Are you kidding ?

Robespierre wrote:Valkyrja said  shareable opinions  ,  I read nothing of strange,   I often agree with him (great poster) as about R9 at his peak > Messi ( who saw him alive,  it knows. )

He said CR7 was better than Messi at the start of gl

S wrote:

Valkyrja wrote:as for Italy's defenders, they are good. among the best ? no way

Are you kidding ?

no i'm not. depends with what you understand from among the best. there are several better than Italy's defenders.

France and who else? At one point Brazil and Spain could boast better defences, but that's no longer the case.

Valkyrja wrote:

S wrote:

Valkyrja wrote:as for Italy's defenders, they are good. among the best ? no way

Are you kidding ?

no i'm not. depends with what you understand from among the best. there are several better than Italy's defenders.

Several

Name them please.

Last I checked the best player in the world right now is of italian origin