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Post by The Demon of Carthage Tue 15 Mar 2016, 12:35

Honestly, Fox, I think you're being quite biased with your analysis. Let me first begin by saying that I don't want Hazard anywhere near Madrid. Now, with that being out of the way, let's take a second to acknowledge the achievements, however small, of this player:

He was PFA player of the year and Premier League Player of the Season in 2015 - an award previously won by the likes of Suarez and Bale. At some point, he was even widely perceived as a top 5 player in the world. True, he hasn't been able to replicate that stellar form of last season. But it would be unfair to throw his past achievements under the rug.

You seemed upset when another poster mentioned him in the same breath as Messi, yet that didn't impede you from mentioning Mahrez in the same sentence as Messi, and even strongly recommending him for Madrid...based on one good season...which still hasn't finished yet.

I honestly have nothing against Mahrez. But he's just playing catching up to Hazard right now. And in my humble opinion, I think it would be wise to wait until he matches the latter's achievements, both individually and with their respective teams, before we can accurately, confidently and safely say that he's actually better.

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Post by Raptorgunner Tue 15 Mar 2016, 14:55

This is so embarrassing. :facepalm:
If Ozil wasn't thinking about leaving now he is for sure. Laughing


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Post by FennecFox7 Tue 15 Mar 2016, 17:05

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Must have missed that memo.

Better let Ozil know lads, he's not world class because he doesn't score goals.


Ozil still has a better record this season then hazard statistically..

Also, Ozil is a much better player, and is much more talented. He has something called an end product, something hazard has none of.
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Post by rincon Tue 15 Mar 2016, 17:15

How does he have no end product?

Hazard the 3 seasons at chelsea before this one:
17 goals 11 assists
16 goals 7 assists
10 goals 14 assists

plus higher numbers at Lille

This season apart, those numbers are at least as good as Ozil's and much better than Mahrez.

FennecFox7 wrote:
"compare to neymar, mahrez, or even sanchez"


How in the world is comparing someone to Neymar the same thing as comparing them to Mahrez? Also "even Sanchez" Smile ? Sanchez, Hazard, and specially Neymar have done too much in their careers to be put down like that. Maybe Mahrez will stay great, but he definitely can't hang with Neymar yet. Like Carthage said, he is playing catch up.
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Post by El Gunner Tue 15 Mar 2016, 22:57

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Shame about the result as i think we deserved a draw, but the organisation and application was light years better than anything i have seen in ages.

Continue that for the rest of the season and we'll be alright imo.

Mans said the same at the start of the season with McLaren
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Post by El Gunner Tue 15 Mar 2016, 23:01

Jonathan28 wrote:How are Arsenal not topping the table? With every other top team being so crap the league is set up for them to win it again, but they're somehow screwing it all up.

If Arsenal don't win the league Wenger should be sacked, the title is being served to them on a platter and yet they're bottling it .

Was having a discussion with a few pals yesterday and someone said the same. Why do people keep on saying this though? hmm

How was it served for us on a platter.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue 15 Mar 2016, 23:02

Brah leave me with my delusions pls Sad
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Post by Peccadillo Wed 16 Mar 2016, 02:18

rincon wrote:How does he have no end product?

Hazard the 3 seasons at chelsea before this one:
17 goals 11 assists
16 goals 7 assists
10 goals 14 assists

plus higher numbers at Lille

This season apart, those numbers are at least as good as Ozil's and much better than Mahrez.

FennecFox7 wrote:
"compare to neymar, mahrez, or even sanchez"


How in the world is comparing someone to Neymar the same thing as comparing them to Mahrez? Also "even Sanchez" Smile ? Sanchez, Hazard, and specially Neymar have done too much in their careers to be put down like that. Maybe Mahrez will stay great, but he definitely can't hang with Neymar yet. Like Carthage said, he is playing catch up.


Agreed. I love the Mahrez story but people need to chill. Every chance he gets snapped up by a mega club for 2016-17 and flops.

He needs to stay in PL tbh.
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Post by Art Morte Wed 16 Mar 2016, 08:42

Looks like Burnley are going to do it again, btw. They're 6 or 7 points safe in the auto-promotion spots, depending on whether Middlesborough win their game in hand, with 9 games left. That's a very well run club. And Sean Dyche :bow:

Even lost Ings and Trippier last summer.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed 16 Mar 2016, 09:35

They will Boro are falling apart.
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Post by Kaladin Wed 16 Mar 2016, 17:01

https://twitter.com/JOE_co_uk/status/710119446854180865

The beavus and butthead laugh rofl rofl
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Post by Art Morte Sat 19 Mar 2016, 08:48

Can't decide what I want from this Everton v Arsenal match. It's always fun when Everton lose, but it would be fun to see the Arsenal meltdown continue.

But what I do know is that in the second game I'll be watching today Crystal Palace are going to beat Leicester smoking
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Post by Jay29 Sat 19 Mar 2016, 12:51

Everton/Arsenal teams:

Robles; Coleman, Funes Mori, Jagielka, Baines; McCarthy, Besic; Lennon, Barkley, Cleverley; Lukaku

Ospina; Bellerin, Gabriel, Koscielny, Monreal; Coquelin, Elneny; Alexis, Ozil, Iwobi; Welbeck

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Post by Hapless_Hans Sat 19 Mar 2016, 14:28

OBI WAN KENOOOOOBI
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sat 19 Mar 2016, 14:31

Arsenal, as always excelling in the game after the game they should have been excelling in

Molenation
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat 19 Mar 2016, 14:35

Hapless_Hans wrote:Arsenal, as always excelling in the game after the game they should have been excelling in

Molenation


It's so predictable lmao.
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Post by Art Morte Sat 19 Mar 2016, 14:37

Everton have been poor. Besic couldn't pass to a teammate to save his life. Lukaku needs more support, he's left to do everything by himself.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat 19 Mar 2016, 14:41

Art you could copy and paste that post everyweek and it would still be relevant hmm
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sat 19 Mar 2016, 15:06

Just realized that Everton have Lennon, McCarthy AND the Stones on the pitch Shocked
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sat 19 Mar 2016, 15:09

time to make a change Arsene. Get Campbell on or something.

Everton closing in on pulling one back. Not too far fetched to see Arsenal crumble again.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sat 19 Mar 2016, 15:33

Why am I talking to myself in the Barklays Premium Leauge thread?
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Post by Art Morte Sat 19 Mar 2016, 15:44

Heard the commentator say that Everton have won 1 of their last 9 home games. Wow.

Time to watch Palace beat Leicester.
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Post by MaraVilla Sat 19 Mar 2016, 15:46

Everton have been the biggest chokers this season. The amount of times they've lost when 2-0 up is beyond ridiculous

Open Chat please
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Post by rincon Sat 19 Mar 2016, 16:02

Leicester and West Ham lets do this!!!!!!!!
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Post by Jay29 Sat 19 Mar 2016, 16:17

West Ham 1-0 up. Lanzini with a worldie.

West Ham up to 4th as it stands, City dropping out.

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Post by MaraVilla Sat 19 Mar 2016, 16:34

YIESSSS.... keeep going leicester
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