English Premier League '16-'17 Discussion - Part 3

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

Art Morte wrote:

Glory wrote:


Yeah  I opposed you back then. Props to you for showing light.
In his defense Fellaini was playing decently, and he will work well for a lot of goodish teams as a combating mf.

I don't think having Fellaini instead of Herrera on the field in this game would make much of a difference. Herrera has been pretty invisible, has hardly had to put in a midfield masterclass.

Doesn't matter, it frees up the rest of the team. Fellaini forces Pogba to be a lot more defensive and isn't a very good passer. Herrera is positionally excellent, a great passer and allows Pogba to play with more freedom as does Mata compared to Rooney.

It doesn't really matter how well Herrera plays, him just being there brings more balance to the midfield and makes the team play better. You are simply thinking of how well the individual plays instead of the team, they wouldn't have played like this with Fellaini in the team.

The whole team is just a lot more fluid and balanced, which doesn't happen with Fellaini.

Totally agree mate.
And Art lol Herrera's been many things but not certainly invisible today. Its not his natural role or the role he's used to playing, the holding deep lying CM. Yet he's done more than decent and the confidence is building and with increased game time its only going to improve from here on. Heartening to see his positional discipline. Always staying back and keeping it ticking. Against better oppositions though, we might need a Carrick/Schneiderlin too by his side to help him out. He alone might not be able to handle.

RealGunner wrote:Think Swansea will win today

Nah, Man City will score at least three.

swansea have looked dreadful so far this season, I think they're going down personally. Easy win for City. will probably outscore us today.

Glory wrote:

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

Art Morte wrote:


I don't think having Fellaini instead of Herrera on the field in this game would make much of a difference. Herrera has been pretty invisible, has hardly had to put in a midfield masterclass.

Doesn't matter, it frees up the rest of the team. Fellaini forces Pogba to be a lot more defensive and isn't a very good passer. Herrera is positionally excellent, a great passer and allows Pogba to play with more freedom as does Mata compared to Rooney.

It doesn't really matter how well Herrera plays, him just being there brings more balance to the midfield and makes the team play better. You are simply thinking of how well the individual plays instead of the team, they wouldn't have played like this with Fellaini in the team.

The whole team is just a lot more fluid and balanced, which doesn't happen with Fellaini.

Totally agree mate.
And Art lol Herrera's been many things but not certainly invisible today. Its not his natural role or the role he's used to playing, the holding deep lying CM. Yet he's done more than decent and the confidence is building and with increased game time its only going to improve from here on. Heartening to see his positional discipline. Always staying back and keeping it ticking. Against better oppositions though, we might need a Carrick/Schneiderlin too by his side to help him out. He alone might not be able to handle.

You could have had Fellaini on and still won 4-1, that's all I'm saying. Leicester look like they have to re-discover themselves this season. Playing 4-4-2 at Old Trafford with a meh midfield and without ever looking like counter-attacking successfully, it was never going to be a good outcome for them. One of the easiest games your midfield is going to have all season and therefore kinda the wrong game to say "see, benching Fellaini solved our problems".

Firenze wrote:swansea have looked dreadful so far this season, I think they're going down personally. Easy win for City. will probably outscore us today.

Agree, they are going to really struggle imo.

Art Morte wrote:

Glory wrote:

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:


Doesn't matter, it frees up the rest of the team. Fellaini forces Pogba to be a lot more defensive and isn't a very good passer. Herrera is positionally excellent, a great passer and allows Pogba to play with more freedom as does Mata compared to Rooney.

It doesn't really matter how well Herrera plays, him just being there brings more balance to the midfield and makes the team play better. You are simply thinking of how well the individual plays instead of the team, they wouldn't have played like this with Fellaini in the team.

The whole team is just a lot more fluid and balanced, which doesn't happen with Fellaini.

Totally agree mate.
And Art lol Herrera's been many things but not certainly invisible today. Its not his natural role or the role he's used to playing, the holding deep lying CM. Yet he's done more than decent and the confidence is building and with increased game time its only going to improve from here on. Heartening to see his positional discipline. Always staying back and keeping it ticking. Against better oppositions though, we might need a Carrick/Schneiderlin too by his side to help him out. He alone might not be able to handle.

You could have had Fellaini on and still won 4-1, that's all I'm saying. Leicester look like they have to re-discover themselves this season. Playing 4-4-2 at Old Trafford with a meh midfield and without ever looking like counter-attacking successfully, it was never going to be a good outcome for them. One of the easiest games your midfield is going to have all season and therefore kinda the wrong game to say "see, benching Fellaini solved our problems".

I think I have already addressed that fact in a previous post. Luck played its part and Lester were outright poor. And I havent said Ander was wc or anything either. He did the job that was asked of him and the major difference in his play to fellaini's play as Mole pointed out is his quick forward thinking approach. He keeps the game flowing and gives that pass quickly after winning the ball. Fellaini on the other hand is too slow and his vision for a CM is quite limited.

Its way too early tho and we need to wait to find out how Ander cope up with better teams. Mou's arrival has certainly rejuvenated him it looks like compared to Van Gaal who used to treat him like shit.

Aguero man so good.

1-0.

son is on fire lately

Brought him into Fantasy for this week.

Swansea have deserved that, Llorente scores.

City have been a mess defensively.

LLORENTEEEE 1-1

swansea ffs, got my aguero goal they can lose now tbh

Lallana 1-0

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

Firenze wrote:swansea have looked dreadful so far this season, I think they're going down personally. Easy win for City. will probably outscore us today.

Agree, they are going to really struggle imo.

Bournemoth 1-0. Stanislas


Wilshere with a presence assist

Son scores again

2-0 Tottenham

son again FFS

I left Lamela in becuase I didn't want another 4 point hit this week

fantastic second goal from son

11 points for Son already

Shame i took a 20 point hit this week

Hull down to 10. Pool Penalty

Milner 2-0

firmino pls respond

Liverpool 3-0

Mane

ffs GET INVOLVED FIRMEHNO

Sunderland 1-0. Defoe

Llorente thriving in his favored false 9 role out there.