Re: The Official Mata Thread

by Kick Wed 22 Jan 2014 - 22:15

This is fecking pissing me off! We're selling him to Utd when they won't give us Rooney.

Just look at what Ozil did for Arsenal or RVP did for UTD last season. This is idiotic! The Official Mata Thread - Page 22 2276801876

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by Shed Wed 22 Jan 2014 - 22:21

Exactly.

Having seen United stand firm and unmoved under unbelievable pressure over Rooney all summer, now seeing our mob show all the resilience of a tissue paper origami and roll right over at first ask is just... :facepalm:

by El Chelsea Fuerte Wed 22 Jan 2014 - 22:23

Shed wrote:Exactly.

Having seen United stand firm and unmoved under unbelievable pressure over Rooney all summer, now seeing our mob show all the resilience of a tissue paper origami and roll right over at first ask is just...

Rooney's importance to Man Utd is not comparable to that of Mata's to Chelsea.

by Kick Wed 22 Jan 2014 - 22:24

I think the difference is that Mata wants out. Rooney didn't as much.

I have dealt with us selling him, but it's to Utd which bothers me the most.

by Shed Wed 22 Jan 2014 - 22:26

El Chelsea Fuerte wrote:
Shed wrote:Exactly.

Having seen United stand firm and unmoved under unbelievable pressure over Rooney all summer, now seeing our mob show all the resilience of a tissue paper origami and roll right over at first ask is just...

Rooney's importance to Man Utd is not comparable to that of Mata's to Chelsea.

You're not getting it. Mata's importance to us is irrelevant. He's one of the best players in the league and we're handing him to a rival.

by Kick Wed 22 Jan 2014 - 22:29

Mata is a world class AM, why would we strengthen Utd so much? He is in the realm of Ozil, see what he's done to Arsenal?

by Shed Wed 22 Jan 2014 - 22:30

But but but....he's sitting on our bench. So who cares. Or something.

#FuerteLogic

by fatman123 Wed 22 Jan 2014 - 22:35

ffs this couldnt be any stupider :facepalm:

We'd be back to where we were this time last season with 4 AMs covering three postions and we'd be more or less throwing United a life line back into a CL place

Can you imagine how much better United would be if they had Mata fedding Rooney and RVP, it wouldnt matter how awful their backline and CMs are because they'd just end up out scoring the other team every week

This is a big moment for the club here, if United fail to qualify for the CL this season and next season they may well be headed down the path Liverpool took over the last five or so years which would make life much easier for the club. Give them Mata though and they're an alright chance of grabbing 4th place and rebuilding over the off season

by Shed Wed 22 Jan 2014 - 22:39

^ This is the biggest :facepalm:

for me. United are on the decline and there is a very real chance they won't finish in a CL place this season, meaning their revenue will drop, top players won't want to join them and all their stars will invariably want out. A real chance to put them well off the map for seasons to come. Why throw them a life-jacket? Makes absolutely no sense.

by Kick Wed 22 Jan 2014 - 22:40

Agree, fitty.

They needed a third party just to make the bid, that should be evidence enough of their situation.

by fatman123 Wed 22 Jan 2014 - 22:41

Future (english jewel?) theres no way United arent still a threat to us, they could well be back in the title hunt in a season or twos time, remember it wasnt that long ago we finished 6th

by Uncanny Thu 23 Jan 2014 - 0:13

In a cynical way this May or may not help us this season. We do not play united anymore, but united still have Liverpool, city, and arsenal to play. A reguvenated united with mata may be able to drop points for city or arsenal through the stretch of this season. Or Moyes will continue to suck and united will stick with how they are on the table, anyway it's not hurting us much for this season, now next season may totally screw us with a more amped up united.

by Kick Thu 23 Jan 2014 - 0:15

As bad as it sounds, I'd rather see Mata play well at Utd than play poorly.

by Shed Thu 23 Jan 2014 - 0:17

Just don't see Mata alone being the difference between a loss to those sides and a result.

by Shed Thu 23 Jan 2014 - 0:17

Kick wrote:As bad as it sounds, I'd rather see Mata play well at Utd than play poorly.

I don't. I hope he's a dud.

by Kick Thu 23 Jan 2014 - 0:18

How many times did he win us a game last season? Yeah, he can be the difference maker. Especially with Rooney or RVP in front of him. They'll put away more chances than our CF's could.

by Kick Thu 23 Jan 2014 - 0:19

Shed wrote:
Kick wrote:As bad as it sounds, I'd rather see Mata play well at Utd than play poorly.

I don't. I hope he's a dud.

Mata is my favourite player alongside Lampard. I couldn't wish for Mata to play poorly, where ever he goes.

by Shed Thu 23 Jan 2014 - 0:23

I can. His 2 years here have been fantastic. I love him as a player and even more as a bloke. But in no way do I want him or any other player of ours doing well for a rival just to fulfill some fictional sense of football fraternity. I hope he fails spectacularly. Because doing so will mean the best for Chelsea, which is all I'm bothered about.

by Kick Thu 23 Jan 2014 - 0:27

I obviously have more compassion for players than you do. Laughing

by Shed Thu 23 Jan 2014 - 0:33

I'd feel the same if it were Lamps at a rival, JT at a rival, Didier at a rival, etc.

What vested interest do you have in him succeeding there? Only the satisfaction of some farcical sense of magnanimity. Means f-all to me.

by Kick Thu 23 Jan 2014 - 0:34

The fact I don't want to see any player play poorly, especially one which I adore so much.

by Shed Thu 23 Jan 2014 - 0:36

So naturally you'd like to see Drogba put a few past us next month then, yes? After all he's an adored player and we'd all just love to see him do well, no?

by Kick Thu 23 Jan 2014 - 0:38

If you recall, I didn't want Gala in the draw for that reason. I don't want to see Droggles fail miserably against us. Knowing him, he'll score regardless.

by Shed Thu 23 Jan 2014 - 0:39

That doesn't answer the question. Do you want him to do well and score against us or not?

by Kick Thu 23 Jan 2014 - 0:40

I don't want him to play against us Very Happy

by Shed Thu 23 Jan 2014 - 0:42

You know whatever way you answer, you're damned if you do and damned if you don't with this one Kicky Laughing

Point proven.

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