Re: Has Xavi declined alot?

by alexjanosik Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:40 am

Superstone Mariomintsch wrote:
alexjanosik wrote:Frankly I dont get this.
It seems everyone has forgotten the masterclass he put on in the CL final.
Or in the CL SF at the Bernabeau.And he has continued from that this season.
He has been excellent so far.The man averages something like 122 passes a game this season.That is freakishly good.
I think people take a look at the assists column and automatically assume that he has declined.
The reason for the lower assists tally is simple.Messi has now taken over the primary responsibility of giving the final pass.

Other than that,there is no decline.Infact imo he has improved.I watched the
6-2 Clasico at the Bernabeau yesterday.I was surprised at how static(by his standards now) he seemed to be.And if given a choice betwen that Xavi and the Xavi of the CL final I would take the current version every single time.
For the simple reason that tactically he is better now than he was 2 years ago.

This is true. However, if not due to him being frakking tired, I would be very conclusive in Xavi having not a very high adaptability. As we all see against Bilbao, under the shower of nature with the rain pouring and drenching, the field extremely wet and humid; he didn't dominate the opponent as well as I think he would be just as I have explained in detail here: https://goallegacy.forumotion.com/t11645-this-is-water .

Was he capable of dominating in drenched field back then in 2008 or he simply can't play in that situation? If he just can't he is lucky he plays in a city who afaik don't rain as much as in other continents. Yes, he is the best in dominating in his best condition, but a little bit trouble from nature he becomes a lot weaker no? So I cannot support him being the best CM of all time like you say, sir. With suitable condition maybe, without I think there are many better. But yeah back to topic, he did improve, he's just fatiqued.

Yeah now I remember.What was the name of the guy who played well in that game?
Oh hang on a minute.Not a single player from either team played well in that game.
4-5 inches of water,impossible to play well.But ofcourse its the system.
:facepalm:

by The Franchise Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:25 am

Lord Spencer wrote:
The Franchise wrote:I am still trying to figure out how he has declined at all.

I dont know how many times he has to own big teams for people to listen.

Because he, like the rest of the Spain team arent destroying teams in friendlies he is somehow in decline?

Best player in his position and 2nd best isnt really that close.

I do think he is exhausted however, and the tension on his muscles makes the probability of injury high. Same thing happened to Pirlo and Gattuso after 2007, where they played nearly every game for Milan and Italy from 2003 onward, and both got injured in 2008, and neither recovered form afterwords just going from injury o injury (Pirlo is just getting his form back, and Gennaro may never play again).

Also, who do you think is the 2nd best? just interested.

If we are talking fatigue, thats one thing, decline is something else.

All I know is, when it matters, Xavi is A* for us.

2nd best? I dont really know. I just think Xavi is the best in his position and I am yet to see anybody who you can compare him to and he comes off 2nd best. If we are just talking about midfielders who play somewhere centerally, I think Iniesta is that player.

by Giovanni10 Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:56 am

Xavi is ruining Barca and Spain, Thiago Alcantara should be made first choice immediately for both club and country :coffee:

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:57 am

Giovanni10 wrote:Xavi is ruining Barca and Spain, Thiago Alcantara should be made first choice immediately for both club and country

Agreed

by Onyx Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:19 am

Xavi plays in a different position to his natural one for Spain. They need to get rid of one Busquets or Alonso and move Xavi to CM.

In before someone says 'Spain don't play like Barca'. :coffee:

by white_star Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:09 pm

The Madrid One wrote:believe it or not sahin is better than him.

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Ahahahaha ya definitely, he's done so much for Madrid this year maybe balon d' or candidate!!!

by chaval Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:35 am

Age is always a factor in the decline of a player

by CBarca Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:46 am

Xavi : "Xavi is suffering"

No but really he's fine. This seems knee jerk. Just wait and see the rest of the season + euros, he'll be fantastic. He's just tired. Even if he's tired, I'm not seeing any real decline, idk why anyone else is. Although it would make sense, he's getting old.

by Giovanni10 Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:53 am

Immaculate_Mole wrote:
Giovanni10 wrote:Xavi is ruining Barca and Spain, Thiago Alcantara should be made first choice immediately for both club and country

Agreed

On second thoughts Mole,

Xavi is ruining football. he should retire. :coffee:

by S32TABLANCA Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:57 am

Xavi: "Goallegacy has deceived me".

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