Re: The FIFA Ballon d'Or Gala 2011 thread

by the xcx Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:19 pm

rsinatra wrote:
The xcx wrote:
rsinatra wrote:i dont think xavi ever expected to win it.. but he definitely deserved to be ahead of c. ronaldo. what has ronaldo done in 2011? won the copa del rey? ffs xavi was fundamental in all of barça's titles.
not about the trophies, invidual performances against others, whats more valuable to club..Midfielder whos vital for a team or a player who scors 50 goals a season? The answer should be obv nuff.

so only strikers and goal scorers should ever win the award?

its not just a team.. the best team in the world. without xavi things this team would look very different.

im sure c. ronaldo is very important for madrid, and he's there with the best atm, but i just dont think that 50 goals in la liga say that he's the second best in the world. i think xavi deserves more recognition!!!

but messi is best.

Pretty sure he has scored 60 goals overall this year, Nt included. Im sorry to break your bubble but no midfielder can do better for a club than a striker who scores a 60 goals a year. But watever, its ur opinion.

by rsinatra Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:24 pm

The xcx wrote:
rsinatra wrote:
The xcx wrote:
rsinatra wrote:i dont think xavi ever expected to win it.. but he definitely deserved to be ahead of c. ronaldo. what has ronaldo done in 2011? won the copa del rey? ffs xavi was fundamental in all of barça's titles.
not about the trophies, invidual performances against others, whats more valuable to club..Midfielder whos vital for a team or a player who scors 50 goals a season? The answer should be obv nuff.

so only strikers and goal scorers should ever win the award?

its not just a team.. the best team in the world. without xavi things this team would look very different.

im sure c. ronaldo is very important for madrid, and he's there with the best atm, but i just dont think that 50 goals in la liga say that he's the second best in the world. i think xavi deserves more recognition!!!

but messi is best.
Pretty sure he has scored 60 goals overall this year, Nt included. Im sorry to break your bubble but no midfielder can do better for a club than a striker who scores a 60 goals a year. But watever, its ur opinion.

and still RM was second in the league, and went out of the CL at the semi finals.. all those goals have to count for something too.. and im not saying they didnt.. but yeah we agree to disagree Smile

by Harmonica Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:26 pm

Lionel Messi won the FIFA Ballon d’Or after polling 47.88 of the votes, ahead of Cristiano Ronaldo (21.6)%) and Xavi (9.23%).

by EarlyPrototype Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:29 pm

rsinatra we lost the league and went out in the CL because of Messi.

by the xcx Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:32 pm

rsinatra wrote:
The xcx wrote:
rsinatra wrote:
The xcx wrote:
rsinatra wrote:i dont think xavi ever expected to win it.. but he definitely deserved to be ahead of c. ronaldo. what has ronaldo done in 2011? won the copa del rey? ffs xavi was fundamental in all of barça's titles.
not about the trophies, invidual performances against others, whats more valuable to club..Midfielder whos vital for a team or a player who scors 50 goals a season? The answer should be obv nuff.

so only strikers and goal scorers should ever win the award?

its not just a team.. the best team in the world. without xavi things this team would look very different.

im sure c. ronaldo is very important for madrid, and he's there with the best atm, but i just dont think that 50 goals in la liga say that he's the second best in the world. i think xavi deserves more recognition!!!

but messi is best.
Pretty sure he has scored 60 goals overall this year, Nt included. Im sorry to break your bubble but no midfielder can do better for a club than a striker who scores a 60 goals a year. But watever, its ur opinion.

and still RM was second in the league, and went out of the CL at the semi finals.. all those goals have to count for something too.. and im not saying they didnt.. but yeah we agree to disagree

And all those goals were from Messi, he is pretty much carrying barcelona not vice versa.

by rsinatra Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:34 pm

messi carrying barcelona? im not saying he is not hte best in the world, and the best in the team, but anyone who ahs watched that team knows that it's the most collective one in the world. a real team. its not like there's one indivdual superstar who carries a mediocre squad. but sure whatever!

by Pedram Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:36 pm

rsinatra wrote:messi carrying barcelona? im not saying he is not hte best in the world, and the best in the team, but anyone who ahs watched that team knows that it's the most collective one in the world. a real team. its not like there's one indivdual superstar who carries a mediocre squad. but sure whatever!

That's proven time and time again, everytime Messi had a bad game Barca couldn't win.

by Omniscient Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:44 pm

Who voted for Forlan? What the actual *bleep*?

by la bestia negra Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:46 pm

Omniscient wrote:Who voted for Forlan? What the actual *bleep*?

someone with dignity

by rsinatra Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:46 pm

El Pipita wrote:
rsinatra wrote:messi carrying barcelona? im not saying he is not hte best in the world, and the best in the team, but anyone who ahs watched that team knows that it's the most collective one in the world. a real team. its not like there's one indivdual superstar who carries a mediocre squad. but sure whatever!

That's proven time and time again, everytime Messi had a bad game Barca couldn't win.

im not sure you watched barcleona without puyol and with messi.. they didnt do that well early at some matches in early 2011 if i remember correctly..
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there's no such thing as "proven" in this case..

by halamadrid2 Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:04 pm

Ronaldo got more votes than he got the year before. Improvement

by Ganso Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:09 pm

CR 09<10>11 imo

by Albiceleste Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:15 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:Ronaldo got more votes than he got the year before. Improvement

Ronaldo wasn't even part of the finalists last year that's why.

by halamadrid2 Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:26 pm

which ws the year where he only got like 5 % (something like that) was it the year before???

by Ganso Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:30 pm

1 - Lionel Messi
2 - Cristiano Ronaldo
3 - Xavi
4 - Andrés Iniesta
5 - Wayne Rooney
6 - Luís Suárez
7 - Diego Forlán
8 - Samuel Eto'o
9 - Iker Casillas
10 - Neymar
11 - Mesut Özil
12 - Wesley Sneijder
13 - Thomas Müller
14 - David Villa
15 - Bastian Schweinsteiger
16 - Xabi Alonso
17 - Sergio Agüero
18 - Éric Abidal
19 - Daniel Alves
20 - Karim Benzema
21 - Cesc Fabregas
22 - Nani
23 - Gerard Piqué

pique is in the last position lulz

by the xcx Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:32 pm

Suarez ahead of Özil, Neymar, Alonso, Benzema? :facepalm:

by Albiceleste Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:32 pm

Sneijder Muller Nerman Villa Alonso Suarez :lol!: shouldn't even be on this list

by la bestia negra Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:38 pm

Lionel Messi wrote:Sneijder Muller Nerman Suarez :lol!: shouldn't even be on this list

says who

suarez rapped messin in the copa as i remmber

by halamadrid2 Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:45 pm

Alonso should agree with the rest, Cex shouldnt be there either and suarez, plus roonay soo high up wtf

also someone needs to investigate how some of the players in there got so many votes( such as forlan and eto)

by Lex Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:47 pm

RVP not even on the list :facepalm:

Goodnight, Irene

by la bestia negra Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:49 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:Alonso should agree with the rest, Cex shouldnt be there either and suarez, plus roonay soo high up wtf

also someone needs to investigate how some of the players in there got so many votes( such as forlan and eto)

:lucas: really

by halamadrid2 Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:50 pm

i know right lex, such a farce

Villa was friggin good for half a season ffs and he is there

by Albiceleste Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:29 pm

supra969 wrote:
Lionel Messi wrote:Sneijder Muller Nerman Suarez :lol!: shouldn't even be on this list
says who

suarez rapped messin in the copa as i remmber

Only thing Suarez did in the Copa was dive to get mascherano sent off, without that he has nothing, he did nothing for his club either

by la bestia negra Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:33 pm

Lionel Messi wrote:
supra969 wrote:
Lionel Messi wrote:Sneijder Muller Nerman Suarez :lol!: shouldn't even be on this list
says who

suarez rapped messin in the copa as i remmber
Only thing Suarez did in the Copa was dive to get mascherano sent off, without that he has nothing, he did nothing for his club either

more like karma beating the barcelona player at his own game

and no wait the goals he scored werent enough

by Albiceleste Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:38 pm

supra969 wrote:
Lionel Messi wrote:
supra969 wrote:
Lionel Messi wrote:Sneijder Muller Nerman Suarez :lol!: shouldn't even be on this list
says who

suarez rapped messin in the copa as i remmber
Only thing Suarez did in the Copa was dive to get mascherano sent off, without that he has nothing, he did nothing for his club either

more like karma beating the barcelona player at his own game

and no wait the goals he scored werent enough

He did nothing against Argentina, except dive and scream at the ref of course, I doubt you even watched the Copa America.

by la bestia negra Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:41 pm

Lionel Messi wrote:
supra969 wrote:
Lionel Messi wrote:
supra969 wrote:
Lionel Messi wrote:Sneijder Muller Nerman Suarez :lol!: shouldn't even be on this list
says who

suarez rapped messin in the copa as i remmber
Only thing Suarez did in the Copa was dive to get mascherano sent off, without that he has nothing, he did nothing for his club either

more like karma beating the barcelona player at his own game

and no wait the goals he scored werent enough
He did nothing against Argentina, except dive and scream at the ref of course, I doubt you even watched the Copa America.

timezone diffrence

and well i couldnt even afford a subscription at that time but im telling you suarez and forlan are perfect for the list

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