If Andrea Pirlo were at Barcelona..
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Re: If Andrea Pirlo were at Barcelona..
How can you even compare a b2b cm and a regista using stats !
I'll leave it at that.Wont even go into this discussion anymore.
I'll leave it at that.Wont even go into this discussion anymore.
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Re: If Andrea Pirlo were at Barcelona..
You cant bench Busquets. Hes the only defensive mid, so he needs to be there. If Pirlo was inBarcas roster, I would play like this:
If Villa can get back on form, then he would undoubtedly take one of Sanchez or Iniestas spots, but Pirlo would continue to start.
--Valdes--
--Alves-- --Puyol-- --Pique-- --Abidal--
--Xavi-- --Busquets-- --Pirlo--
--Sanchez-- --Messi-- --Iniesta--
--Alves-- --Puyol-- --Pique-- --Abidal--
--Xavi-- --Busquets-- --Pirlo--
--Sanchez-- --Messi-- --Iniesta--
If Villa can get back on form, then he would undoubtedly take one of Sanchez or Iniestas spots, but Pirlo would continue to start.
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Re: If Andrea Pirlo were at Barcelona..
The Franchise wrote:Like Pep would ever allow such a thing.
Surely even Pep would play Pirlo>Keita. He can't be ignorant of the correlation of lost points and Keita...
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Re: If Andrea Pirlo were at Barcelona..
I wouldnt put any money on that.
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Re: If Andrea Pirlo were at Barcelona..
I used the opinion of the best coach in the league and you dismissed it, stats apparently aren't good enough for you, then enlighten me and tell me how is Pirlo better?Surag.Blueguy wrote:How can you even compare a b2b cm and a regista using stats !
I'll leave it at that.Wont even go into this discussion anymore.
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Re: If Andrea Pirlo were at Barcelona..
I keep forgetting the
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Re: If Andrea Pirlo were at Barcelona..
Baresi, did Allegri explicitly say that Nocerino is better than Pirlo?
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Re: If Andrea Pirlo were at Barcelona..
lol. do you really think Pirlo has the lungs to play the Barca game.juventus101 wrote:You cant bench Busquets. Hes the only defensive mid, so he needs to be there. If Pirlo was inBarcas roster, I would play like this:--Valdes--
--Alves-- --Puyol-- --Pique-- --Abidal--
--Xavi-- --Busquets-- --Pirlo--
--Sanchez-- --Messi-- --Iniesta--
If Villa can get back on form, then he would undoubtedly take one of Sanchez or Iniestas spots, but Pirlo would continue to start.
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Re: If Andrea Pirlo were at Barcelona..
Does he have to? Is it not enough that he wasn't ready to renew his contract and instead he replaced him.kiranr wrote:Baresi, did Allegri explicitly say that Nocerino is better than Pirlo?
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Re: If Andrea Pirlo were at Barcelona..
But he didnt replace him with Nocerino..they dont even play the same role.
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Re: If Andrea Pirlo were at Barcelona..
baresi wrote:Does he have to? Is it not enough that he wasn't ready to renew his contract and instead he replaced him.kiranr wrote:Baresi, did Allegri explicitly say that Nocerino is better than Pirlo?
Then couldn't it be that Nocerino fits Allegri's plans better than Pirlo and not necessarily that he think Nocerino is better than Pirlo?
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No not really.kiranr wrote:baresi wrote:Does he have to? Is it not enough that he wasn't ready to renew his contract and instead he replaced him.kiranr wrote:Baresi, did Allegri explicitly say that Nocerino is better than Pirlo?
Then couldn't it be that Nocerino fits Allegri's plans better than Pirlo and not necessarily that he think Nocerino is better than Pirlo?
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Re: If Andrea Pirlo were at Barcelona..
And lets not forget Aquillani here, since you want two midfielders with similar roles, Aquillani has more GOALS and Assists than pirlo has in the league alone.
So to say that Pirlo is the best midfielder in the league does;nt make sense, during pre 2010/2011 season yes he was.
So to say that Pirlo is the best midfielder in the league does;nt make sense, during pre 2010/2011 season yes he was.
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Aquillani better than Pirlo? Are you serious?
Then again the fact that you're using goals and assists to judge a midfielder tells me all I need to know...
Then again the fact that you're using goals and assists to judge a midfielder tells me all I need to know...
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Re: If Andrea Pirlo were at Barcelona..
simply because Nocerrino wasn't bought as Pirlos replacement. :lol!:kiranr wrote:
Why?
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Re: If Andrea Pirlo were at Barcelona..
currently yes I am serious, what makes you think Pirlo is better.BarrileteCosmico wrote:Aquillani better than Pirlo? Are you serious?
Then again the fact that you're using goals and assists to judge a midfielder tells me all I need to know...
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baresi wrote:currently yes I am serious, what makes you think Pirlo is better.BarrileteCosmico wrote:Aquillani better than Pirlo? Are you serious?
Then again the fact that you're using goals and assists to judge a midfielder tells me all I need to know...
Their eyes, most likely....
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the left or right one?bhends wrote:baresi wrote:currently yes I am serious, what makes you think Pirlo is better.BarrileteCosmico wrote:Aquillani better than Pirlo? Are you serious?
Then again the fact that you're using goals and assists to judge a midfielder tells me all I need to know...
Their eyes, most likely....
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Re: If Andrea Pirlo were at Barcelona..
Imho, at the peak of Pirlo's career, Xavi would've lost his place.
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Re: If Andrea Pirlo were at Barcelona..
Pirlo could always be taken out of a game with heavy pressing, even in his prime.... Xavi on the other hand thrives when pressed, dude cant be stopped
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Re: If Andrea Pirlo were at Barcelona..
Im sorry to say it, because I love Pirlo, but people are really rewriting history when talk about him vs Xavi.
I would love people to actually take time and watch Barca vs Milan in 04 for example. Xavi ran that game just like he does now, Pirlo was nowhere to be found.
Go find the possession, territory and passing % stats, or I can post them and you can see for yourself.
Barca would never of benched Xavi for Pirlo, not because Pirlo wasnt great, but Xavi was a gem in his own right.
I think its fair to say, pre Pep, they were around the same level, but since Pep, Xavi has been at a level Pirlo hasnt ever touched.
I would love people to actually take time and watch Barca vs Milan in 04 for example. Xavi ran that game just like he does now, Pirlo was nowhere to be found.
Go find the possession, territory and passing % stats, or I can post them and you can see for yourself.
Barca would never of benched Xavi for Pirlo, not because Pirlo wasnt great, but Xavi was a gem in his own right.
I think its fair to say, pre Pep, they were around the same level, but since Pep, Xavi has been at a level Pirlo hasnt ever touched.
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The Franchise wrote:Im sorry to say it, because I love Pirlo, but people are really rewriting history when talk about him vs Xavi.
I would love people to actually take time and watch Barca vs Milan in 04 for example. Xavi ran that game just like he does now, Pirlo was nowhere to be found.
Go find the possession, territory and passing % stats, or I can post them and you can see for yourself.
Barca would never of benched Xavi for Pirlo, not because Pirlo wasnt great, but Xavi was a gem in his own right.
I think its fair to say, pre Pep, they were around the same level, but since Pep, Xavi has been at a level Pirlo hasnt ever touched.
Pirlo at his prime MIGHT only a slight possibility that he could have found a spot in this Barca team and definitely not at Xavi's expense.
We all say nice words about Pirlo at his prime, but we all tend to forget who he had to protect him in Milan and the NT, Pirlo if he plays for Barca will be very well exposed, Barca can't afford having two miss protecting their playmaker.
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Re: If Andrea Pirlo were at Barcelona..
Have to agree with you here.
Everyone seems to ignore that, even at his peak, Pirlo needed protection from a prime Gattuso and Ambrosini for it to work. Now he gets that same protection from Vidal and Marchisio.
Xavi, just one defensive player, Cocu then Edmilso then Marquez, then Yaya, now Busquets.
Everyone seems to ignore that, even at his peak, Pirlo needed protection from a prime Gattuso and Ambrosini for it to work. Now he gets that same protection from Vidal and Marchisio.
Xavi, just one defensive player, Cocu then Edmilso then Marquez, then Yaya, now Busquets.
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Re: If Andrea Pirlo were at Barcelona..
Xavi is better, but I highly disagree how posters pit the gap between their levels. Thats just unjustified frankly and near laughable.
And no Pirlo didnt NEED protection as their have been countless games for Milan and Italia where both teams played purely attacking formations with Pirlo getting little protection, but destroying other team. Its only that that Pirlo-gattuso partnership was the most effective.
And ambrosini didn't work around to protect Pirlo as his role was always different almost detached from Pirlo in the mid while Gattuso formed a cohesive partnership with him
And no Pirlo didnt NEED protection as their have been countless games for Milan and Italia where both teams played purely attacking formations with Pirlo getting little protection, but destroying other team. Its only that that Pirlo-gattuso partnership was the most effective.
And ambrosini didn't work around to protect Pirlo as his role was always different almost detached from Pirlo in the mid while Gattuso formed a cohesive partnership with him
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Re: If Andrea Pirlo were at Barcelona..
on form Pirlo would walk into any team in the world including Barca
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