Re: Of Mattress makers and Lions - Atletico Madrid vs Athletic Bilbao

by iNFINITY9910 Wed May 09, 2012 2:25 pm

gg wp, im gonna get my sleep Very Happy

by animal.crackers Wed May 09, 2012 2:28 pm

Can Falcao play with a strike partner?

I don't watch Porto or Athletico.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed May 09, 2012 2:44 pm

animal.crackers wrote:Can Falcao play with a strike partner?

I don't watch Porto or Athletico.

Are you willing to pay 50 million? and yes i see no reason why he cant.

by Raptorgunner Wed May 09, 2012 2:44 pm

I just have this feeling that Man City will pay big money and will lure Falcao to City next year.

by Raptorgunner Wed May 09, 2012 2:45 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
animal.crackers wrote:Can Falcao play with a strike partner?

I don't watch Porto or Athletico.

Are you willing to pay 50 million? and yes i see no reason why he cant.

No way they will sell him for 50m, I think nothing less than 60m.

by punkfusion1992 Wed May 09, 2012 2:51 pm

animal.crackers wrote:Can Falcao play with a strike partner?

I don't watch Porto or Athletico.

he plays with Adrian... and they form a pretty beast partnership

by guest7 Wed May 09, 2012 3:19 pm

RIP Tiki-Taka 2008-2012

by LeBéninois Wed May 09, 2012 3:23 pm

Se7en wrote:RIP Tiki-Taka 2008-2012

Euhhh

??

by guest7 Wed May 09, 2012 3:44 pm

Did Javi Martinez cry?

Poor Bilbao, they really wanted that trophy... They were crying Sad

by Le Samourai Wed May 09, 2012 3:46 pm

Moles tyranny must end :X:

by BarrileteCosmico Wed May 09, 2012 3:49 pm

Better luck next year Bilbao, they had a hell of a run Very Happy

by EarlyPrototype Wed May 09, 2012 4:02 pm

gratz to Atletico.

by S32TABLANCA Wed May 09, 2012 4:07 pm

Se7en wrote:RIP Tiki-Taka 2008-2012

by Arquitecto Wed May 09, 2012 4:12 pm

For the first time in the EL Bielsa has well and truly flopped.

-He played the much-maligned 4-3-3.

-Didn't play Javi in the midfield and opted to play him as CB sacrificing Ekiza or San Jose's position, thus leaving Iturraspe alone.

-Played a high line with Amorbieta

-Restricted Llorente's signiture False 9 role and played Susaeta as a forward alongside him on the RIGHT while De Marcos on the left. Llorente is supposed to be isolated with Iker supported him, De Marcos behind and Suseata on the left as a WINGER.

-Pushed Ander waaay to deep.

-Once again, played an all to unnecessarily high line

- Screwed up the 2nd half by removing Aurtunexte and Iturraspe for Inigo and Ibai aka his worst substitution decision this season.

-Brought in Toquero for Ander as the former was NOT needed at the time.

He is a brilliant and imo a world class manager. But how stubborn he is reflects on why Athletic have failed to succeed in the league despite the CDR and EL successes.

Nonetheless, he was brought in for a long term project and even exceeded expectations with the youngest side in the Liga. If he sticks to what works best, top 4 will be a cinch and the CDR final should be brought home.

P.S if anyone who believes this is Tiki Taka is just :facepalm:

by Le Samourai Wed May 09, 2012 4:17 pm

If he has to play a 4-3-3 he might as well drop Ander....because it's pointless.

by che Wed May 09, 2012 4:19 pm

bilbao... i am disappoint...

by S32TABLANCA Wed May 09, 2012 4:27 pm

Bielsa failed big. He has to show some adaptability.

by Zealous Wed May 09, 2012 4:33 pm

Finals have to be won not played.

Bilbao just couldn't take advantage of their chances. I didn't feel like there were large tactical flaws.

by Arquitecto Wed May 09, 2012 4:36 pm

S32TABLANCA wrote:Bielsa failed big. He has to show some adaptability.

-He played the much-maligned 4-3-3.

-Didn't play Javi in the midfield and opted to play him as CB sacrificing Ekiza or San Jose's position, thus leaving Iturraspe alone.

-Played a high line with Amorbieta

-Restricted Llorente's signiture False 9 role and played Susaeta as a forward alongside him on the RIGHT while De Marcos on the left. Llorente is supposed to be isolated with Iker supported him, De Marcos behind and Suseata on the left as a WINGER.

-Pushed Ander waaay to deep.

-Once again, played an all to unnecessarily high line

- Screwed up the 2nd half by removing Aurtunexte and Iturraspe for Inigo and Ibai aka his worst substitution decision this season.

-Brought in Toquero for Ander as the former was NOT needed at the time.

He is a brilliant and imo a world class manager. But how stubborn he is reflects on why Athletic have failed to succeed in the league despite the CDR and EL successes.

Nonetheless, he was brought in for a long term project and even exceeded expectations with the youngest side in the Liga. If he sticks to what works best, top 4 will be a cinch and the CDR final should be brought home.

read the above again.

Adaptability? LOL WHAT?

Bielsa's problem is that he adapts and changes FAR to much.

His problem is that he is over-exploiting the experimentation time given to him when the system that works best is superb.

Its as if Mourinho keeps deviating from his usual formation and for instance, plays Madrid 4-4-2 with CR on the left and Ramos as DM etc etc.

by S32TABLANCA Wed May 09, 2012 4:48 pm

Arquitecto wrote:
S32TABLANCA wrote:Bielsa failed big. He has to show some adaptability.

-He played the much-maligned 4-3-3.

-Didn't play Javi in the midfield and opted to play him as CB sacrificing Ekiza or San Jose's position, thus leaving Iturraspe alone.

-Played a high line with Amorbieta

-Restricted Llorente's signiture False 9 role and played Susaeta as a forward alongside him on the RIGHT while De Marcos on the left. Llorente is supposed to be isolated with Iker supported him, De Marcos behind and Suseata on the left as a WINGER.

-Pushed Ander waaay to deep.

-Once again, played an all to unnecessarily high line

- Screwed up the 2nd half by removing Aurtunexte and Iturraspe for Inigo and Ibai aka his worst substitution decision this season.

-Brought in Toquero for Ander as the former was NOT needed at the time.

He is a brilliant and imo a world class manager. But how stubborn he is reflects on why Athletic have failed to succeed in the league despite the CDR and EL successes.

Nonetheless, he was brought in for a long term project and even exceeded expectations with the youngest side in the Liga. If he sticks to what works best, top 4 will be a cinch and the CDR final should be brought home.

read the above again.

Adaptability? LOL WHAT?

Bielsa's problem is that he adapts and changes FAR to much.

His problem is that he is over-exploiting the experimentation time given to him when the system that works best is superb.

Its as if Mourinho keeps deviating from his usual formation and for instance, plays Madrid 4-4-2 with CR on the left and Ramos as DM etc etc.

What? I agree with your points. Adaptability isnt changing things up, you know. It's changing things up and SUCCEEDING.

by Mr Nick09 Wed May 09, 2012 5:23 pm

by Zealous Wed May 09, 2012 5:27 pm

IS..... IS THAT WHO I THINK IT IS??!!!??

by Mr Nick09 Wed May 09, 2012 5:29 pm

Indeed :vagi:

by Le Samourai Wed May 09, 2012 5:30 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:

loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

His true colours :coffee:

Hala post the vid.

by Mr Nick09 Wed May 09, 2012 5:30 pm

But he is retired now :vagi:

by che Wed May 09, 2012 5:32 pm

that explains so much...

though on second look, wasn't his harline like... two feet further back when he was active?

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