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Post by huntsman Wed Jul 29, 2015 3:22 pm

Second best player in the world after Messi.
Hazard is a level above Neymar and Ronaldo.

If only he plays more for himself rather than for the team and takes more risks, he would close the gap with Messi. Messi would still be number 1 but the gap will significantly close.

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Post by Myesyats Wed Jul 29, 2015 3:44 pm

ffs Hazard did nothing besides that goal and oh my what an achievement dribbling past Douglas, Bartra and Mathieu in a preseason friendly.

His dribbling ability is extraordinary but he'll never be any close to Messi... and no, he's not better than Neymar or Suarez. Ronaldo possibly.
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Post by huntsman Wed Jul 29, 2015 3:46 pm

linetty wrote:ffs Hazard did nothing besides that goal and oh my what an achievement dribbling past Douglas, Bartra and Mathieu in a preseason friendly.

His dribbling ability is extraordinary but he'll never be any close to Messi... and no, he's not better than Neymar or Suarez. Ronaldo possibly.


He is better than all three.
Only Messi bests hazard at the moment.
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Post by Unique Wed Jul 29, 2015 3:54 pm

rofl at some of the posts in here
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Post by Myesyats Wed Jul 29, 2015 3:57 pm

He's done nothing to earn that, to be called better than any of the MSN trident.

Did nothing against 10 men PSG to see his team through. It's not a player of this quality.
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Post by Valkyrja Wed Jul 29, 2015 4:14 pm

linetty wrote:He's done nothing to earn that, to be called better than any of the MSN trident.

Did nothing against 10 men PSG to see his team through. It's not a player of this quality.


He's done nothing to be called better than Suarez and Neymar but he's better than Ronaldo. Laughing
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Post by Myesyats Wed Jul 29, 2015 4:21 pm

Yeah i was being sarcastic lmao it's always fun to undermine CR :whistle:
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Post by halamadrid2 Sun Aug 16, 2015 6:14 pm

Bump.
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Post by Doc Sun Aug 16, 2015 6:21 pm

In Hazard's (weak) defense, players of his ilk tend to have this sort of match more often than not. That being said, another match where being home on his bed would have been more useful.
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Post by halamadrid2 Sun Aug 16, 2015 6:26 pm

when was the last time he actually had a good game against a big team??

Apparently he sees himself as Balon d'or material. I think not babs. You are no better than the likes of Willian and co
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Aug 16, 2015 6:27 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:when was the last time he actually had a good game against a big team??


He never has lol, unless you count skinning Demechelis when he was playing DM as one anyway.
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Post by halamadrid2 Sun Aug 16, 2015 6:29 pm

or running past Bartra in a preseason game

I'd take Alexis over him 10 times out of 10

All he does is just throwing himself on the ground on the faintest of touches and gushing at the most fouled stats at the end of the season
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Post by Doc Sun Aug 16, 2015 6:31 pm

I was gonna mention the Tottenham game but Hala said big team so that ends that. Jose's tactics really don't help his already helpless cause of putting any sort of influence on a match especially in big games.

I know it seems to be illegal to defend Hazard but I firmly believe he would be a whole lot better with a team who actually plays any sort of positive possession football.
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Post by Glory Sun Aug 16, 2015 6:34 pm

Lol @ Top 5 player in the world. rofl
Not even in the league on current form and overall impact to a football game this guy.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Aug 16, 2015 6:36 pm

Doc wrote:I was gonna mention the Tottenham game but Hala said big team so that ends that. Jose's tactics really don't help his already helpless cause of putting any sort of influence on a match especially in big games.

I know it seems to be illegal to defend Hazard but I firmly believe he would be a whole lot better with a team who actually plays any sort of positive possession football.


I don't disagree and i think he's a fantastic player but there are some who vastly overrate him. That's it, i don't hate him or think he's crap or anything.

I laugh at him, to just respond to those who think he's up there with Ronaldo etc etc lol it's childish but who cares.
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Post by halamadrid2 Sun Aug 16, 2015 6:39 pm

I think it's his arrogance that irks me abit. I dont doubt that he'd be a much better player at City for example but that's were I put a line to it. Never will I ever consider him one of the best even in the region he plays in. To me thete is so much more to football than just stepovers and 1-2s
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Aug 16, 2015 6:41 pm

let's stop this jose tactic thing, i have seen players so good under mourinho that they would force him into changing his way of things. Hazard just isnt that, mou knows hazard cant just take over games and win them in bunches.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Aug 16, 2015 6:46 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:let's stop this jose tactic thing, i have seen players so good under mourinho that they would force him into changing his way of things. Hazard just isnt that, mou knows hazard cant just take over games and win them in bunches.


Those players you are thinking of have explosive ability which means tactics go out the window. It was same with Pardew under us, Ben Arfa was the only one who could do something irrelevant of the tactics because of the acceleration.

Suarez, Neymar, James etc etc have the change of pace that Hazard doesn't have which means they cause problems without coaching mattering as much even if Hazard has things they don't.

It clearly has an impact IMO, he would be a lot better in a team more open team.
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Post by Freeza Sun Aug 16, 2015 6:46 pm

Sign me up for this club. I like small clubs.
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Post by halamadrid2 Sun Aug 16, 2015 6:47 pm

I dont know look at that rw for chelsea there is nobody good there and mou is completely fine with that. Also with Cesc playing so far down Hazard has noone to combine with that doesn't immediately give the ball back to him because they are scared of losing it. I dont know hazard doesn't look like the guy who will demand the ball from deep and drive forward with it and whenever he makes runs into the box there is noone to put a nice cross in. Sounds like Mou syndrome to me. Also doesn't help that the striker spends 89 minutes of the game on the ground moaning instead of helping his team
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Post by Doc Sun Aug 16, 2015 6:48 pm

Ronaldo didn't change his mind. Or Ozil, Di Maria, Benzema, Modric, Higuain. Maybe his Inter days or perhaps Porto and Chelsea part 1 where he actually had some sort of flexibility but not now.

Though I would like to make it clear, Hazard's failings are on his own accord but I don't think Jose is doing much to appease the situation.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Aug 16, 2015 6:54 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:let's stop this jose tactic thing, i have seen players so good under mourinho that they would force him into changing his way of things. Hazard just isnt that, mou knows hazard cant just take over games and win them in bunches.


Those players you are thinking of have explosive ability which means tactics go out the window. It was same with Pardew under us, Ben Arfa was the only one who could do something irrelevant of the tactics because of the acceleration.

Suarez, Neymar, James etc etc have the change of pace that Hazard doesn't have which means they cause problems without coaching mattering as much even if Hazard has things they don't.

It clearly has an impact IMO, he would be a lot better in a team more open team.
James and Suarez have a greater change in pace compared to Hazard? i disagree.

I think they are more dangerous because of their visions and their release. Suarez obviously can "fumble" through people, whatever that weird dribbling style of his and also more dangerous releasing the ball around the box, whether it's to shoot or to advance play; and james obviously has a left same Hazard can only dream of, he is far superior, both with shooting and passing.
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Post by urbaNRoots Sun Aug 16, 2015 6:56 pm

Mourinho has made him the main man and he still doesn't deliver, no excuses.
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Post by Bankz Sun Aug 16, 2015 7:04 pm

How this guy is considered elite is beyond me. All he does is run like a headless chicken into brickwalls all day.
He's a decent player who can have 1-3 very brilliant games all season, with 30 mediocre games and 20 very poor ones. Nothing more.
It isnt a coincedence that hazard has remained on this level for bout 4 years now even without injuries, rotations, whilst being the teams go-to player. People talk bout negative football as an excuse as if drogba didnt beast in this same chelsea team with mourinho in it and drogba was even hardly considered a top 5-10 player by most people. Or as if other players arent doing great with other underdogs, i mean chelsea is a wc team ffs.
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Post by futbol Sun Aug 16, 2015 7:06 pm

I approve of all of this but can we please also pay some attention to the Scrubregas thread? Sad

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Aug 16, 2015 7:07 pm

Come off it, Drogba was a beast target man lol. It's hardly the same thing lol.
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