Your dream United lineup next season?

RED 80s. wrote:-----------------De Gea-----------------
Rafael----Smalling---Vidic------Evra (hopefully he'll regain his form)
--------------Martinez---Modric---------------
-------------------Kagawa---------------------
Valencia----------Rooney---------Nani

That is one heck of a team. Will dominate the EPL and the CL.

RED 80s. wrote:I agree with the Evra part, he has declined badly, but he is still better than Baines and offers more going up front than Baines does. Baines is more solid defensively and has better crossing, but can't beat his man like Evra can. I prefer someone else than Baines tbh. There is talk of us being in for Alba as his replacement, who's allegedly really good. I don't really watch Valencia that much, so I don't personally if he is top class or not.

Smalling overall is a better defender than Evans imo. We all saw in the 2010/11 just how great he was along side Vidic. You cannot pinpoint that mistake he made v City, that was his first game back in about 3 months. Evans, for all his good form, is still prone to the odd bad game- V everton in that 4-4 draw at OT.

Mdric is not overrated and he is exactly what we need. A deep lying CM, good vision and can score goals. But hey, that's your opinion if you think he's overrated. You also say he has done nothing. Putting in top class performances week in and out in the prem is nothing now? Cmon. He will take his game to the next level with United imo.

Martinez...hasn't done "sod all", but he was great v us, has starred in a Bilbao team that reached the EL and Copa Del Ray finals. Is young and great defensively. Versatile too. He will be a great addition, and the fact that both us and Barca are in for him lets you know how highly rated he is.

As for Kagawa....cmon dude. Why are you being this ignorant towards a potentially great player who has just won the Bundesliga player of the year. A player that is a 2 time Bundesliga champion. He deserves some respect. Just check out this video..

RED 80s. wrote:I respect your opinions, Jibers. But..some points I need address:

1) I still feel we shouldn't burden too much of our midfield responsibilty on Cleverley's shoulders. For all the talent and potential he has, I still feel he is not ready and that we should go with someone more established. Someone like Modric. Modric is great, but obviously you don't rate him. He is good at bringing the ball out from deep in the MF, drive it forward, pick out a pass and contribute to the attack. He is just like Scholes (obviously not as good) and is exactly what we need.

We need to push him to be ready. If we get Modric, and with Scholes already there he would barely get a sniff. Again our limited finances mean we can't go around buying players we don't need pre Glazers. Cleverley showed his class against Tottenham and Arsenal. He drives the ball forward and is easily the best on the ball in our team. I can count how many times he got dispossessed last season.

2) Kagawa can play as an AMF or a SS. He will be useful for when we play in Eurpe and against the tough teams. With us atm, once you stp our wingers, we are completely devoid of any attacking threat. Kagawa will give us another dmension to our attacking play. He is great with both feet, has pace,is selfless, is a great dribbler and has improved his goal scoring. Someone like Hernandez, who loves playing on the shoulders of ppo defenders will benefit with playing with someone as creative as Kagawa.

The way we want to play Hernandez shgould be used as an impact sub. No build up ability, first touch of a rapist, shocking technique, the pass of Heskey, I could carry on. This is modern football. We saw what playrs like Gomez do when they don't score, sod all.


3) Rooney can play CF. Remember the 09/10 season? He was a monster in front of goal and even expanded his game. Scoring headers left, right and centre. He had his best season playing as a lone forward. So, that for me, is not even an issue.

Again, That was a 1 off. Are we going to rely on a guy that has been inconsistent for all his career bar one season as our main CF? Not a wise strategy if you ask me. Kagawa will play holding CM, you watch.

This season he was pretty poor bar the goals. Most games he looked like he wasn't interested.

4) again, I feel you are seriously underrating Martinez. Yeah he bossed a shet United MF...but it still doesn't detract from the fact he was involved in a team that reached 2 finals. Again, I'm only eluding to the fact you said he hasn't done "sod all".

I agree with the Evra point. He's a lazy mofo'. everyone on this board knows my feelings towards Evra. I want him to get replaced, despite me including him in the formation in the previous post, but it has to be for someone really good.

There are no good quality LBs, Baines will do tbh. Martinez hasn't found his solid positin, till he does he is just an expirement as far as I'm concerned.

Adit wrote:Martinez played against Cleverley too a full 90 minutes and Ander showed him whos the bose..

What has cleverley done to warrant the hype?

5 games where most PL team including tottenham barely found form during season start . Anderson looked like GOAT as well during that time lol..

RED 80s. wrote:-----------------De Gea-----------------
Rafael----Smalling---Vidic------Evra (hopefully he'll regain his form)
--------------Martinez---Modric---------------
-------------------Kagawa---------------------
Valencia----------Rooney---------Nani

That is one heck of a team. Will dominate the EPL and the CL.

RED 80s. wrote:-----------------De Gea-----------------
Rafael----Smalling---Vidic------Evra (hopefully he'll regain his form)
--------------Martinez---Modric---------------
-------------------Kagawa---------------------
Valencia----------Rooney---------Nani

That is one heck of a team. Will dominate the EPL and the CL.