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Post by Abramovich Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:49 pm

Top 10:

The List:

#1 Manchester United ($2.23 billion)

#2 Real Madrid ($1.88 billion)

#3 New York Yankees ($1.85 billion)

#3 Dallas Cowboys ($1.85 billion)

#5 Washington Redskins ($1.56 billion)

#6 Los Angeles Dodgers ($1.4 billion)

#6 New England Patriots ($1.4 billion)

#8 Barcelona ($1.31 billion)

#9 New York Giants ($1.3 billion)

#10 Arsenal ($1.29 billion)




http://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2012/07/16/manchester-united-tops-the-worlds-50-most-valuable-sports-teams/
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Post by Abramovich Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:55 pm

Can't believe NFL teams are worth so much Neutral most of them are NFL teams that make up the rest of the top 50.

#11 Bayern Munich

#27 AC Milan

#45 Chelsea
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Post by Rebaño Sagrado Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:56 pm

Is the Highest-Paid Athletes list up to date?
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Post by RealGunner Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:58 pm

We used to be ahead of barcelona :facepalm:
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Post by Gil Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:03 pm

45th ffs. :facepalm:
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Post by Swanhends Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:04 pm

Problem, Perez? :I'munoriginal:
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Post by 7amood11 Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:05 pm

The top 5 back in 2004 or something used to have Manchester United, Milan, and JUVE.

How the great have fallen Sad
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Post by Gil Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:11 pm

How rhe hell are Milan still ahead of us btw?

Suppose it's because of transfers?

And are Liverpool on that list Ade?
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Post by Onyx Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:13 pm

If Arsenal are so rich why do they have wage caps and never get big players etc? Suspect

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Post by RealGunner Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:15 pm

To pay of the debt. We have a sustained model atm. We can spend 100m per transfer window, but then we will end up in a dept of 1bn like some teams.

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Post by Onyx Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:15 pm

And why do Arsenal have a debt?

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Post by RealGunner Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:16 pm

Took a loan to build the Stadium + Develope Highbury Apartments and the Training Facilities. Think it was over 500m but we have paid most of it, now its around 150m
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Post by chinomaster182 Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:17 pm

I absolutely despise these forbes list, how the hell do they attempt to value a football team like Manchester United?

Worse yet, the online article does not explain at all.

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mtfootball wrote:If Arsenal are so rich why do they have wage caps and never get big players etc? Suspect

This is precisely the reason they are so "rich".


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Post by Lex Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:17 pm

mtfootball wrote:And why do Arsenal have a debt?
Not sure if serious tbqh
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Post by Onyx Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:19 pm

Isn't Wenger going to continue the youth model after the debt's been cleared?

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Post by RealGunner Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:20 pm

We will be in the same situation as barca then ( without the debt ). Use youth as well as being able to spend as well as others
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Post by Abramovich Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:23 pm

Gil wrote:How rhe hell are Milan still ahead of us btw?

Suppose it's because of transfers?

And are Liverpool on that list Ade?

No I listed all the football clubs in that list, its filled with NFL mainly. I think a few baseball and like two NBA (Lakers & Knicks).

Also F1 Ferrerri and MC
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Post by RealGunner Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:25 pm

Gil meant, how are milan 27th and chelsea 45th
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Post by Abramovich Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:39 pm

He asked me about Liverpool d-bag
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Post by TalkingReckless Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:42 pm

the reason man u is valued so much is their fan base all around the world, especially in Asia (India, China and South Korea). That is a big part of their value.

Then you have to add the 400-500mil debt they have.

The Glazers bought them for 800mil in 2005

One more thing to increase their price is the possible listing as a IPO on NYSE.
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Post by Zealous Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:43 pm

It clearly says most valuable not richest lol and since Madrid would never be subject to sale that number doesn't mean much.
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Post by TalkingReckless Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:47 pm

mtfootball wrote:If Arsenal are so rich why do they have wage caps and never get big players etc? Suspect

Being rich doesn't mean you have money....

Man City has the biggest transfer kitty, but if that was taken away. Their club is worth nothing, small stadium, not a big fan base.

If Chelsea built a new stadium they would jump up alot in the list. The reason they are so low is due to their facilities which aren't the greatest
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Post by Zealous Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:50 pm

Chelsea isn't that valuable because of their monster debt to Abramovich. If Roman was ever going to sell you can bet he would ask for that debt to be paid.
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Post by TalkingReckless Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:58 pm

Zealous wrote:Chelsea isn't that valuable because of their monster debt to Abramovich. If Roman was ever going to sell you can bet he would ask for that debt to be paid.

Chelsea are additionally funded by Abramovich via interest free soft loans channelled through his holding company Fordstam Limited. The loans stood at £709 million in December 2009, when they were all converted to equity by Abramovich, leaving the club itself debt free, although the debt remains with Fordstam. Since 2008 the club has had no external debt.

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Post by RealGunner Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:00 pm

Abramovich wrote:He asked me about Liverpool d-bag

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