Re: Bale the new Ronaldo?

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:20 pm

Gil wrote:Prime Giggs had fantastic close control and was a far better passer. I have to disagree on that comparison.

Bale is more like a downgraded version of the Ronaldo of today.

Bale has fantastic close control, in fact i feel it's often ignored part of his game.

His passing may not be Giggs level but neither was Giggs at Bale's age but it's still at a good standard it's much better than CR's anyway.

by Onyx Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:27 pm

Gil wrote:
Yohan Modric wrote:Ronaldo is a winger currently.

How many bots does it take to change a light bulb?

Not sure, around 2 maybe? hmm

by The Franchise Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:12 pm

Le Samourai wrote:
The Franchise wrote:Bale puts in many crosses though, Cristiano almost never does.

I dont see Bale similar to him in this sense. Take up different areas of the pitch also, Cristiano puts himself in goalscoring positions more frequently.

Ronaldo does cross. To me it's ineffective and pointless..but he does do it relatively well. Bale does it a bit better and more frequently as it's somewhat the staple of his game.

No. I am not one for stats but Cristiano is at 0.3 crosses per game, meanwhile Bale is at 1.6.

In the Europa league he is up to 4 a game while Cristiano in the CL 0.4.

Bale via my eye test and stats crosses far more than Cristiano.

by DuringTheWar Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:32 pm

1. Kick the ball
2. Chase it
3. Kick it to the penalty area

This is basically bales game, throw in a 360 turn every once in a while as well. He was a full back who couldnt defend so he converted to a winger. He has a great engine, thats what his game is about

Ronaldo is a better athlete generally (this goes for power, strength, coordination, agility, timing, ect)

by Le Samourai Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:54 pm

I am not denying that Bale puts in more crosses than Ronaldo , anyone who watches both play will say that.

But I think crossing is literally the sole creative tool Ronaldo can claim to possess that is elite. He can get by a man on the line and he's accurate enough with either foot. It's simply ineffective with us because no one is ever going to get on the end of them.

The metric on who scored reflects accurate crosses per game

Ronaldo - 4/33 = 11%
Bale - 23/114 = 20 %

Almost double Bale's crosses hit the target. Which is probably why he sends in more of them, he has better targets and the team is setup to facilitate a crossing game.

With Benz playing CF sending in crosses really has no point. The 3 a game Ronaldo send in senselessly (nevermind the 5 or 6 from Di Maria) endlessly trouble my mind.

They are good at it but what is the point?

It's an ineffective tactic, they might as well not use it. I'm positive if there was someone slightly different he would send in more crosses.

by BarrileteCosmico Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:55 pm

Not saying stats are relevant, but what's the average age of the first 99 games for both players?

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:10 pm

Diego Armando Maradona wrote:1. Kick the ball
2. Chase it
3. Kick it to the penalty area

Rubbish if it was all he had then defenders would just sit deep and render him useless when in reality he's been one of the best players in the league for a long time now and is a much more complete player than people give him credit for.

The funniest thing about all this is basically everyone who says this support teams that Bale would walk into blindfolded.

by Le Samourai Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:15 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Diego Armando Maradona wrote:1. Kick the ball
2. Chase it
3. Kick it to the penalty area

Rubbish if it was all he had then defenders would just sit deep and render him useless when in reality he's been one of the best players in the league for a long time now and is a much more complete player than people give him credit for.

The funniest thing about all this is basically everyone who says this support teams that Bale would walk into blindfolded.

I'm sure some Madrid fan somewhere said this and he is not even cracking rotation on this team.

Serious talk.

Where is he going to play?

Ronaldo will obviously start ahead of him and guys like Benz and Di maria would kill to play on the left in the event of him getting injured and we're gonna play Bale?. Nah man, don't see it. And it's not like he's going to play left back either.

They're linking us with him and I'm getting scared. Tottenham is not our own personal charity case.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:23 pm

I had not seen any Madrid fans say that tbf.... mostly PL fans of other clubs.

I agree he would not start for Madrid unless you prefer Bale to Di Maria for what ever reason.

by Ganso Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:25 pm

I would rather have Bale than Di Maria.At least Bale plays well once in a while against top teams and never has 25% pass accuracy

by the xcx Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:27 pm

Bale dosent compute to youth players that RM has in their cantera Laughing

..

For startes, being able to cross, cut in, good first touch, reknown as a dribbler dosent give him an 50m pricetag.

I dont see him ever ending up in Madrid, might as let Jese play instead.

by jibers Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:28 pm

Diego Armando Maradona wrote:1. Kick the ball
2. Chase it
3. Kick it to the penalty area

This is basically bales game, throw in a 360 turn every once in a while as well. He was a full back who couldnt defend so he converted to a winger. He has a great engine, thats what his game is about

Ronaldo is a better athlete generally (this goes for power, strength, coordination, agility, timing, ect)

Biggest load of BS I've read all day. Better athlete? Bale is quicker than him, works harder, is definatley more agile, timing of what? We all know Ronaldo only times to get goals. Bale gets goals and is balnced. There is a reason why any fullback would need an extra set of lunngs to cover Madrid's lb position. Strength? Are you for real? The same strength that led to him going to ground on almost every challenge?

by jibers Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:28 pm

Ganso wrote:I would rather have Bale than Di Maria.At least Bale plays well once in a while against top teams and never has 25% pass accuracy

LOL

by Ganso Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:33 pm

The Franchise wrote:
A player is so overrated, eventually due to the criticism he then takes he becomes underrated.

by jibers Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:35 pm

The xcx wrote:Bale dosent compute to youth players that RM has in their cantera ..

For startes, being able to cross, cut in, good first touch, reknown as a dribbler dosent give him an 50m pricetag.

I dont see him ever ending up in Madrid, might as let Jese play instead.

Read cantera and stopped. Brb Madrid need rb....

sell Carvajal rofl

by Le Samourai Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:37 pm

jibers wrote:
The xcx wrote:Bale dosent compute to youth players that RM has in their cantera ..

For startes, being able to cross, cut in, good first touch, reknown as a dribbler dosent give him an 50m pricetag.

I dont see him ever ending up in Madrid, might as let Jese play instead.

Read cantera and stopped. Brb Madrid need rb....

sell Carvajal

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by the xcx Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:42 pm

jibers wrote:
The xcx wrote:Bale dosent compute to youth players that RM has in their cantera ..

For startes, being able to cross, cut in, good first touch, reknown as a dribbler dosent give him an 50m pricetag.

I dont see him ever ending up in Madrid, might as let Jese play instead.

Read cantera and stopped. Brb Madrid need rb....

sell Carvajal

Evra makes Arbeloa look like WC. This brb joke is old btw, you need a new material.

by jibers Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:44 pm

The xcx wrote:
jibers wrote:
The xcx wrote:Bale dosent compute to youth players that RM has in their cantera ..

For startes, being able to cross, cut in, good first touch, reknown as a dribbler dosent give him an 50m pricetag.

I dont see him ever ending up in Madrid, might as let Jese play instead.

Read cantera and stopped. Brb Madrid need rb....

sell Carvajal
Evra makes Arbeloa look like WC. This brb joke is old btw, you need a new material.

yet Evra has been decent this season. Anyone that watches United games would know that. Arbelao is the reason Madrid are second in that cl group. Awful defender. Never seen a fb were a winger has to work hard for him. Madrid have opposite problems on either flanks.

if it ain't broke don't fix it...

by the xcx Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:49 pm

Evra decent Laughing

..I was watching UTD concede 3 goals against newly promoted Championship yesterday, for me he looked frustrated as hell, Ive lost count how many times he got burned defending his own flank Laughing

.

Stop giving GL a bad name, for starters post less.

by Onyx Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:51 pm

Spanish/Argentine/whatever > British players.

The only British player that would maybe get into the Real Madrid side is Wilshere.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:56 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:Spanish/Argentine/whatever > British players.

The only British player that would maybe get into the Real Madrid side is Wilshere.

pls go.

The xcx wrote:Evra decent ..I was watching UTD concede 3 goals against newly promoted Championship yesterday, for me he looked frustrated as hell, Ive lost count how many times he got burned defending his own flank .

Stop giving GL a bad name, for starters post less.

Jibers is one of the best posters on here, pls go.

by Abramovich Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:59 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:Spanish/Argentine/whatever > British players.

The only British player that would maybe get into the Real Madrid side is Wilshere.

your posts are as good as your fifa pro stats eco smile

by the xcx Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:04 pm

It is true tho.

by Luca Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:17 pm

The xcx wrote:It is true tho.

No it's not, it's a generalization and a horrid one at that

by jibers Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:19 pm

Luca wrote:
The xcx wrote:It is true tho.

No it's not, it's a generalization and a horrid one at that

Let's see, where did Argentina finish in the last WC? Where did England finish? In b4 excuses

by Le Samourai Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:22 pm

jibers wrote:
Luca wrote:
The xcx wrote:It is true tho.

No it's not, it's a generalization and a horrid one at that

Let's see, where did Argentina finish in the last WC? Where did England finish? In b4 excuses

Last world cup was a circus for both teams lol (Much like this thread is becoming )

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