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Post by Bankz Wed Oct 15, 2014 12:45 am

Lol, r9 at 19 was possibly the greatest talent in football history along with el diego but r9 just wins it for me..a striker who could hold his own against any forward at any point in history at any age grade stat-wise at the time and a striker who could also hold his own with any midfielder (till date) when it came to ball wizardry and technique. R9 was a footballing god..though to give credit where its due, nerman is one of the few players who scored a 100
goals as a teenager (against palmeiras in 2012)..along with R9, and pele (those are the one's i remember though as they're very few) and has scored over 200 career goals at 22..he scored it in brazil's warm up game before the world cup. At freaking 22. Wait, this guy won the hors concors award when he became too good for the brazilian league ffs..

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Post by Bankz Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:38 pm

Neymar scored his 200th official goal and has made a 101 assists in 333 official matches against eibar aged 22. He also has 9 in 9 matches this season, 8 in 7 league matches (2 as subs) averaging a goal every 62 minutes this season, while having 40 goals and 23 assists in 58 games for national team..scoring 10 goals in 14 competitive games for the NT.
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Post by Valkyrja Mon Dec 01, 2014 1:40 pm

He should leave Barca asap. he will never fulfill his potential playing second fiddle to Messi. he should go somewhere he would be the main man.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Dec 01, 2014 2:05 pm

11 goals in 11 games, he really seems to be held back Laughing

Stop talking nonsense.
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Post by farfan Mon Dec 01, 2014 2:25 pm

Valkyrja wrote:He should leave Barca asap. he will never fulfill his potential playing second fiddle to Messi. he should go somewhere he would be the main man.


did you copy/paste this post from some months ago ?

i remember reading the same comment with this exact same wording .
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Post by Curtinho Mon Dec 01, 2014 4:37 pm

I believe that all elite level players, who should be go-to guys, should play on teams built around them and not necessarily with other superstars.

Guys like Ronaldo, Bale, Suarez, Messi, Neymar, etc. I think would all look better playing on different teams as opposed to together. They can still be successful, but I think it's a shame that you don't get to see them each lead teams more. They're all forced to sacrifice space, time on the ball and other things to work with other players of similar talents.

Maybe they don't mind at the end of the day, but yeah, I think it would be cool if they all played on different teams.
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Post by futbol Wed Dec 10, 2014 8:34 pm

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Post by M99 Wed Dec 10, 2014 9:25 pm

That finesse Proud
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Post by CBarca Wed Dec 10, 2014 9:41 pm

Neymar using that RB + B Proud
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Post by Bankz Wed Dec 10, 2014 10:30 pm

My Gahd!!! Really needs a team built around him, just like cujo and valk noted.
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Post by LeBéninois Thu Dec 11, 2014 3:31 am

Bankz wrote:My Gahd!!! Really needs a team built around him, just like cujo and valk noted.


Brazil Cool

What a player !
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Post by titosantill Thu Dec 11, 2014 4:21 am

Bankz wrote:Just a thought though. Well, Just realized that if neymar played for france, holland, spain, italy, argentina, portugal and england he could realistically be gunning for their national teams all time top scorer at age 23, considering their top scorers are somewhere btw 40-55 each, albeit some have played like 40+ more games than neymar (50+ in the case of cr7), considering he's still 22 and he still has like 2 games to go this year against turkey and austria in november.like wtf?..whats more mind blowing is that he's doing it in this shit brazilian nt full of scrubs..now, thats some insane modern day shit going on there.. Meanwhile neymar became brazils 5th all time top scorer behind zico (48), romario (53), ronaldo (62) and pele (77), in addition to being one of the only 5 players to score four goals in the brazilian NT..


his scoring record is impressive, but if he played for any of those teams, he may have scored less (or more) its all relative....and if the leading scorers of those teams had played in his place, they may have scored more (or less)....i'm not sure its a healthy comparison. a healthier comparison (and even this too has its perks), will be comparing him to his pears, and against his pears, i think he has one of, if not the best national team record, if i'm not mistaken....this doesn't mean if he played in place of them or they in place of him the record would be better or worse
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Post by Bankz Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:49 am

@titto. u always make valid points. its just that when it comes to national team, neymar is not just better but leagues better than his closest peers. 59 games, 42 goals and 24 assists. C'mon!!!!! on the other hand, when it comes to comparisons with any other player in the national team, neymar is arguably that best player on the planet at the moment, and its not up for debate..14 competitive games, 10 competitive goals (for those that bring up that stat), won confederations cup (5 games, 4 goals & 2 assists), world cup (5 games, 4 goals & 1 assist), Olympic finalist (5 games, 3 goals & 4 assists) won the U-21 south american championships (7 games, 9 goals & 2 assists) copa america (4 games, & 2 goals)..That's 22 goals in 26 games & 7 assists. Now, that's some classic stuff for a 22 year old..BTW, we talked about building a team around him based on what we've seeing him do with Santos and Brazil (recently), especially "THIS" Brazilian team. Though I get what u mean for the most part, but it doesn't change the truth either, or what do you think?..Anyway, I'm not making any claims here (as I know some will imply), as Messi and Cr7 are still Unarguably the best players in the world today.
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Post by titosantill Thu Dec 11, 2014 7:04 am

i actually agree, as i pointed out he probably does have the best national team record among his peers, its just sometimes we make comparisons where there are too many important variables discounted....that said, his goal run is impressive regardless. i don't think the difficult part isn't scoring so much at 22, or younger, but keeping it up for something like a ten year run, just ask owen....it seems he's also showing that form/brilliance at club level, and i hope that ends soon (he can score a hundred goals for brazil, i have no problem or concerns about that)
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Post by futbol Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:12 pm

http://vine.co/v/OjTqELdTb3A

http://vine.co/v/OjItYI5HWxj

Love him. Bringing dat Dinho flair back to Camp Nou.

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Post by jibers Mon Jan 19, 2015 2:21 pm

Fußball wrote:http://vine.co/v/OjTqELdTb3A

http://vine.co/v/OjItYI5HWxj

Love him. Bringing dat Dinho flair back to Camp Nou.


How would you compare Nerman to Dinho in terms of their ability etc?
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Post by Bankz Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:06 pm

And how is a ronaldinho who had a less ambitious (2003-2005/just before 2005 upwards) barca built around him any better? Factoring their national and their club teams?
Santos Neymar>>>R10 at any club outside barca.
Neymar>>>R10 at 22.
Brazil's Neymar>>> Brazil's R10.
Btw, r10 couldnt have dominated footy in this stat dominated era (post 2008) and couldn't have faced this post 2008 messi as a go-to player for barca ffs.
Wait till neymar has an european club team built around him.
Btw @jibers, while R10 is better, u realise you're comparing R10 with a 22yo who just crossed teenage-hood right?
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Post by Ganso Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:22 pm

shut it lol Ronaldinho at 22 was a world champion, Neymar has only won a libertadores so far. still has a Copa America, CL, liga and copa to be compared to dinho (thats leaving out a WC). Ronaldinho in his peak was playing at Maradona/Pele/Messi level. Not even worth a discussion, Jibs was obviously just talking about their skills
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Post by futbol Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:30 pm

jibers wrote:
Fußball wrote:http://vine.co/v/OjTqELdTb3A

http://vine.co/v/OjItYI5HWxj

Love him. Bringing dat Dinho flair back to Camp Nou.


How would you compare Nerman to Dinho in terms of their ability etc?


Dinho had much more ability. Main difference between the two is Dinho's passing and playmaking. Just don't see Neymar pulling something like this (@ 1:40):



Dinho always got double digit assists, 23 in his best season. Neymar so far has 3 this season, pretty sure all of them simple short passes within the box. Dinho was also a better dribbler. I think Neymar is more like Cristiano Ronaldo, primarily a goalscorer, but unlike Ronaldo he has sufficient passing and dribbling ability and his flair tricks actually come off and don't look stupid like Cristiano's pointless stepovers on the spot after which he passes sideways because it doesn't get him past defenders.

@ Bankz: He just asked a question, what are you doing? Laughing

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Post by farfan Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:33 pm

Ac milan vs Barcelona 2006 Proud

the genesis of the uefalona era .
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Post by Ganso Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:43 pm

btw , guti just said in punto pelota that those Nerman dribbles were useless rofl
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Post by Bankz Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:48 pm

@fussball. Lol, dont mind me really, even a fool knows dinho has more goat ability and like i noted is better. Just thought jibes was trolling tbh. Lol, dont tell me u guys are taking my post serious as jibes was suppose to know what u meant by your statement in the first place. Its all funny when u think of it now.
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Post by futbol Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:50 pm

Ganso wrote:btw , guti just said in punto pelota that those Nerman dribbles were useless rofl


rofl

Full scene here @ 0:10 right at the beginning:



Beating 2 defenders and driving the ball into the box = useless. Proud

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Post by Bankz Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:54 pm

@ganso. Btw, how was neymars dribbles useless? Didn't it come off? Or didn't he end up passing the ball to suarez twice in the 18? And/or getting fouled?
Such a shame u now troll neymar cause he was compared to R10.
Its the least thing i expected from u tbh. Anyway, its nice how gutis opinions are now a yardstick for conclusions moreso being a madridista.
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Post by Bankz Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:03 am

Lol. looking at what jibes said again. My gahd, how clueless i was actually. How could i even have being this clueless? What was i thinking? My sincere apologies jibers. Lol *facepalm*
guess i had too much beer for my birthday party.
I actually thought i saw "how dare u compare neymar to dinho in terms of their abilities etc"
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Post by FennecFox7 Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:23 pm

Sorry, but neymar is not a better passer then ronaldo Laughing He has superior dribbling ability and the best player of all time at his side as well as suarez, and he only manages 3 assists?? Come on now...
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