Neymar Watch

Please mate. We all know Messi is the best player right now u don't need to belittle other players to make him great. even Messi is not perfect and that's what makes it more exciting that there is always room for improvement. If he was to be perfect in every way then that would be very sad as Messi fan because then the only way is downwards. Right now Neymar has been out of the world and is lifting the team singlehandedly with every help from Suarez and that's the fact.

Actually I do when trolls like you start spew things like Neymar is somehow carrying the team, and team playing better without Messi. Casual fanboys like you are the reason for state of media and everything that is wrong in football, you create fanboy atmosphere outside reason and reality, and that's why media publish bullshit reports, to get more money from your bullshit. Fanboys like you are the reason why Cronaldo were still called top 3 player in the world after playing like complete donkey full year, by casual fans.

And that's why kids STAY IN SCHOOL

Betty La Fea wrote:His legacy rides on what happens in Buenos Aires in two days IMO.

Please tell me this is sarcastic

Cruijf wrote:

Betty La Fea wrote:His legacy rides on what happens in Buenos Aires in two days IMO.

Please tell me this is sarcastic

Serious as Adam Johnson at the playground fam.

Just to be clear that notion is absolute nonsense. If Messi can go his entire senior international career without a trophy and still (rightfully) be considered the best ever, I think Neymar will do just fine with or without a good performance in one meaningless qualifier.

Cruijf wrote:Just to be clear that notion is absolute nonsense. If Messi can go his entire senior international career without a trophy and still (rightfully) be considered the best ever, I think Neymar will do just fine with or without a good performance in one meaningless qualifier.

I don't think he was serious.

Barcelona have been trying to get Neymar to sign a new deal for sometime.
They have tried contacting his father to arrange a time to sit down and negotiate an improved deal for the striker who is out of contract in 2018.
Daddy Ney has so far ignored them, fobbing off the board with pleasantries, whilst telling the media that his son will pen a new deal at Barcelona. That said, talk is cheap. Amidst all of this, there has been the odd conversation with Manchester United who have been desperate to
sign the Brazilian.
Neymar knew exactly what he was doing. Time plays in his favour, especially considering his outstanding performances out on the pitch this
season. Neymar is worth more today than he was a month ago and probably less than he will be in December if he leads Barcelona to the FIFA World Club Cup. He will be worth even more in February, once he has joined world-class players of the calibre of Messi and Cristiano on the shortlist for the Ballon d'Or, something which looks to be a done deal right now.
With that in mind, Bartomeu and Susana Monje had better start getting their wallets out in what is a complicated time for the club in terms of its
finances. Firstly, they had better start writing the cheque they will have to send to Santos if the striker is one of the three finalists shortlisted for the Ballon d'Or. After all, that was one of the terms of his transfer deal.
- MARCA

*double post*

Marca with DEM desperation articles.

Cruijf wrote:Just to be clear that notion is absolute nonsense. If Messi can go his entire senior international career without a trophy and still (rightfully) be considered the best ever, I think Neymar will do just fine with or without a good performance in one meaningless qualifier.

What exactly is meaningless about a qualifier? Especially against Argentina? Of course his legacy doesn't depend on one game, but Brazil should at least get a draw against an Argentina in poor form, and missing so many important players. Nerman should definitely step up in this game.

the game will be bullshit lets be honest
Argentina with no messi or aguero
and one of Brazil's worst team ever.

Neymar: "I tend to play well against Madrid, I already scored several goals against them, scoring one isn't enough anymore now." [sport]

@barcastuff: Neymar Sr (father): "We're talking about renewing, but the tax problems bother us. If this can't be solved, we can't stay." [ser]

Uhmm... Looks like daddy Neymar needs a new deal for himself.

How much is Neymar's dad on atm?

3 orgies per week

Come home, Nerman

We'll treat you right

urbaNRoots wrote:@barcastuff: Neymar Sr (father): "We're talking about renewing, but the tax problems bother us. If this can't be solved, we can't stay." [ser]

Uhmm... Looks like daddy Neymar needs a new deal for himself.

This is what happens when you give people who would normally live under a bridge in the streets of Brazil or flip burgers at McDonald's millions of Euros.

"Tax problems bother us." Yeah, really unfair that you have to pay taxes for the defrauded € 40M that you received.

Nermans dad is an absolute shady pos. hopes he gets locked up soon. Be better for nerman to be represented by messi's dad

someone tells him to come to madrid, his tax problems will go away

For the past few years, there has been a general
consensus of opinion among football supporters
that Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo are the
best players in the world.
You might argue about the order in which they
should be placed, but few fans - aside from some
Barcelona or Real Madrid followers who are
unwilling to praise their greatest enemy's biggest star - would question the suggestion that those two are head and shoulders above everybody else.
That impression is supported by the result of the
annual Ballon d'Or award, which has been presented to Messi in 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2012 and to Ronaldo in 2008, 2013 and 2014, with nobody else claiming the prize since Kaka in 2007.

Now, however, perhaps it is time to reconsider the old notion that nobody else comes close to touching Messi and Ronaldo, because another flamboyant talent is also performing at similarly outrageous levels: NEYMAR.

And this weekend he could have no bigger stage to prove it, as Barcelona travel to Real Madrid for the first Clasico of the season.

A STATEMENT OF GENIUS

Late on in Barcelona's home game with Villarreal this month, with the hosts leading 2-0 through goals from Neymar and Luis Suarez, a familiar chant echoed around the Nou Camp as fans reminded an injured hero that he had not been forgotten: "Meeessi, Meeessi, Meeessi…"

While they sang, Barca surged forward and Luis
Suarez advanced down the left before curling a
bouncing cross towards Neymar on the edge of the penalty area.
What Neymar did next will never be forgotten by
those fortunate enough to witness it, with the
Brazilian forward conjuring a piece of magic which his national team coach Dunga later described as "the sort of thing that makes football the beautiful game".
With his back to goal, Neymar controlled the cross with his stomach, then immediately flicked it over his head to lose his marker and swivelled 180 degrees to meet the dropping ball with a fierce low volley which flew into the back of the net.
The goal was met with astonishment as much as
jubilation, and more than 70,000 fans rose to their feet to acclaim the scorer by quickly adapting their previous chant: "Neeeymar, Neeeymar, Neeeymar." Same song, different name and, although he obviously did not mean it in this way, the goal felt like a symbolic moment with Neymar delivering an emphatic message to the watching world: 'Forget Messi. I'm king now.'

Goals, goals, goals

That goal against Villarreal was Neymar's 11th of the season in La Liga, making him the league's top scorer - three ahead of Ronaldo despite playing 93 fewer minutes.
Not insignificantly, he has been in a particularly rich vein of form during Messi's spell on the sidelines, rising to the challenge of compensating for his fellow South American's absence by scoring 10 goals in his past seven club games.
Although this season's achievements have been
particularly impressive, nobody should be too
surprised to see Neymar making such a big impact because he has been scoring goals for fun ever since breaking into the Santos first team at the age of 17.

He is still only 23, yet Neymar has 249 career goals: 136 for Santos, 67 for Barcelona and 46 for Brazil.
To put those figures into context, by the time Messi and Ronaldo reached the age Neymar is now (23 years and nine months), they had 'only' registered respective career goal tallies of 186 and 127.
Each case is different, with Ronaldo needing some time to develop into the awesome physical specimen he is today, while Messi's younger years were spent in a Barcelona team containing other established stars who commanded more than their fair share of attention.
Furthermore, you could argue that a chunk of
Neymar's early goals came 'cheaply' as they were
scored in the relatively low standard Brazilian state championship.
While it does not necessarily follow that Neymar will end up scoring more goals than Messi and Ronaldo simply because he has scored more than them by his current age, surely it suggests that this young man from Sao Paulo should be taken seriously as a potential all-time great?

ALREADY THE BEST?

Neymar's electrifying performances over the past few weeks have attracted considerable attention in Spain and Albert Masnou, the deputy editor of Barcelona- based newspaper Sport, believes he is playing better than Ronaldo.
"At the moment he is surpassing Ronaldo," Masnou told BBC Sport. "Cristiano is enduring a 'grey' period, uncomfortable with his club and his coach. He isn't leading his team or serving as their reference point, although that could easily change in just one game.
"But Neymar has become more integral to Barca. He is more consistent and growing a lot as the years go by. Now he is capable of leading the team when Messi's not there, and we are seeing his full potential."
Those views were echoed by a man who knows
Neymar extremely well: Tata Martino, who was his coach at Barcelona when he arrived from Santos in the summer of 2013 and who is now in charge of Argentina.
Before last week's World Cup qualifier between the two nations, Martino commented: "Neymar has reached a point of maturity. What he's doing now puts him on a level with the two footballers we consider above the rest."
Ronaldinho, who remains a revered figure among Barcelona fans, was also glowing in his tribute of his countryman as he enthused: "Neymar is a phenomenon. It's nice to see a Brazilian continuing to make history and I think he can be the greatest in the world."

A MESSI DILEMMA

It will soon get much harder for Neymar to maintain his recent standards, however, because Messi's absence through injury is nearly over. And when that happens, the focus of the Barca team and everyone else - fans, media and opponents - will immediately return to the Argentine.
Messi is, quite simply, the man around whom the
Catalans have built their team, and when he is on the pitch the primary function of the other 10 players is to service him.
Messi's status is illustrated off the pitch by the
parrot-like phrase trotted out weekly by every Barca player that he is "the best player in the world", and manager Luis Enrique notably brushed aside a question after the Villarreal game asking whether Neymar is the second best, instead blandly asserting that he is proud to coach lots of great players.

Neymar's touches Last three games with Messi 74 v Roma
76 v Levante
64 v Celta Vigo

Last three games without Messi
105 v Getafe
111 v Bate Borisov
95 v Villarreal

Average: 71.3 (with messi) VS Average: 105 (without messi)

Considering Messi's consistent greatness, the
reliance upon him is understandable. But it does
mean the other players are forced to somewhat
subdue their natural games in order to meet the
demands of contributing to a team built around
Messi.
Some, such as Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Alexis
Sanchez, have been forced to leave in order to allow their personal talents to flourish. Others - and there is perhaps no better example than Neymar - have accepted that role and made the most out of playing for Messi first, the team second and themselves third.
Masnou says Neymar will, in the short term, have no problem stepping out of the spotlight once Messi returns.
"He didn't join Barca to overshadow Messi, but to be his heir," Masnou said. "Neymar has been the king for two months but he knows that when Messi is there, the leader is Messi."

HEIR APPARENT

Neymar is widely regarded in Barcelona as the heir apparent: the player lined up to become the team's focal point when Messi has retired or entered into decline.
The question, however, is how much longer Neymar will be prepared to accept that role. Messi is only 28 and could still be performing at or near his peak for another four or five years.
By then, Neymar will be in his late 20s and may well have grown tired of being the chief member of the supporting cast rather than taking the lead role.
Perhaps the key for Barca will be to create a slightly more level playing field, one which places just as much importance in Neymar as it does in Messi: to use Masnou's poetic phrase, a system which makes them "equal protagonists". The past few weeks have suggested that Neymar is good enough to merit a more elevated standing, placing him shoulder to shoulder with Messi rather than deferentially looking up to him.
Whether Messi will be prepared to share his crown is another matter.

By Andy West
Spanish football writer

@Bankz
If ever Neymar leaves which team u think he will opt? It has to be big rich club because we are talking atleast 70-80millions. Also would he be the same player if he leaves Barca? Will he improve more or will stagnate? Because what he has with Barca is symbiotic relationship in which both parties are benefited. And most imp question is who will lose more if he leaves, Barca or Neymar?

Neither would loose tbh, Barca wouldn't loose anything and will still be european power houses/favourites in all competitons. Barcelona are bigger than any player much less Neymar.

If Neymar leaves he'll definitely fulfill his potential as he'll be the focal point of any team he goes to and as a result, his value, marketability would rise 10 fold. IMO, he stands a better chance of winning the balon d'or in a team without messi.

Meanwhile, if Neymar leaves, the ideal place he ought to move to would be

1. Man utd but the physical nature of the premier league, their conservative culture, would make it quite difficult for him to seemlessly adapt to the club.

2. Juventus and milan are ideal options but no italian team can afford him there and the league is seriously in decline.

3. Psg is another club that would be able to afford him but I honestly do not see neymar playing in the frence league tbh

4. Real madrid would have been the other magic destination but, it will all depend on the uncle flos ego and desperation since Neymar is his original fantasy/X target but knowing barca, they'll probably sell for a world record fee without even giving it a thought, so it'll all depend on uncle flos ego.