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One Man Army
by Mr Nick09 Sun Jul 10, 2011 5:49 pm
How many players today in world football, are talented/good enough to turn around the fate of a single club?
well, i was reading a quote of moggi qualifying aguero and rossi of not being good enough to turn juventus around. so it got me thinking about what kind of players are good enough to turn around such club, unless ofc he meant that their issues are too deep for a single player to help.
well, i was reading a quote of moggi qualifying aguero and rossi of not being good enough to turn juventus around. so it got me thinking about what kind of players are good enough to turn around such club, unless ofc he meant that their issues are too deep for a single player to help.
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Re: One Man Army
by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Jul 10, 2011 5:53 pm
None.......
And no one ever has and no one ever will, the people that mention Maradona at Napoli and Dinho at Barca fail to realise the quality those players had alongside them to take those players to glory.
It's impossible for one player to take a team to success.
And no one ever has and no one ever will, the people that mention Maradona at Napoli and Dinho at Barca fail to realise the quality those players had alongside them to take those players to glory.
It's impossible for one player to take a team to success.
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Re: One Man Army
by Mr Nick09 Sun Jul 10, 2011 5:55 pm
Immaculate_Mole wrote:None.......
And no one ever has and no one ever will, the people that mention Maradona at Napoli and Dinho at Barca fail to realise the quality those players had alongside them to take those players to glory.
It's impossible for one player to take a team to success.
I think we all realize that a little bit, but there has to be a point at which a player is so influential, that we can call him such, even sometimes, regardless of the quality of talents he has around him.
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Re: One Man Army
by chinomaster182 Sun Jul 10, 2011 5:56 pm
Immaculate_Mole wrote:None.......
And no one ever has and no one ever will, the people that mention Maradona at Napoli and Dinho at Barca fail to realise the quality those players had alongside them to take those players to glory.
It's impossible for one player to take a team to success.
+1, no prayers can be answered by a single player.
However, i would consider Messi, CR7 and Ibrahimovic "game changers", with a single stroke a brilliance they can turn a game around.
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Re: One Man Army
by la_liga1 Sun Jul 10, 2011 5:57 pm
St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:Immaculate_Mole wrote:None.......
And no one ever has and no one ever will, the people that mention Maradona at Napoli and Dinho at Barca fail to realise the quality those players had alongside them to take those players to glory.
It's impossible for one player to take a team to success.
I think we all realize that a little bit, but there has to be a point at which a player is so influential, that we can call him such, even sometimes, regardless of the quality of talents he has around him.
No but Zidane single handedly carried france to the 98 world cup and 06 final. He did it by himself, it was all him. He didn't need help from anyone.
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Re: One Man Army
by Yeezus Sun Jul 10, 2011 5:58 pm
Ermmm... Zidane 2006 WC, and Souleymane Colibaly 2011 u17 WC.
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Re: One Man Army
by Busby Babe Sun Jul 10, 2011 5:59 pm
la_liga1 wrote:St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:Immaculate_Mole wrote:None.......
And no one ever has and no one ever will, the people that mention Maradona at Napoli and Dinho at Barca fail to realise the quality those players had alongside them to take those players to glory.
It's impossible for one player to take a team to success.
I think we all realize that a little bit, but there has to be a point at which a player is so influential, that we can call him such, even sometimes, regardless of the quality of talents he has around him.
No but Zidane single handedly carried france to the 98 world cup and 06 final. He did it by himself, it was all him.
Zidane only played great in the final of the '98 world cup. I think people literally have made up memories of how good he was in the '98 world cup.
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Re: One Man Army
by Mr Nick09 Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:00 pm
la_liga1 wrote:St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:Immaculate_Mole wrote:None.......
And no one ever has and no one ever will, the people that mention Maradona at Napoli and Dinho at Barca fail to realise the quality those players had alongside them to take those players to glory.
It's impossible for one player to take a team to success.
I think we all realize that a little bit, but there has to be a point at which a player is so influential, that we can call him such, even sometimes, regardless of the quality of talents he has around him.
No but Zidane single handedly carried france to the 98 world cup and 06 final. He did it by himself, it was all him.
zidane didnt carry france alone in 98. do you remember the team they had? in between thuram , desailly, blanc, deschamps, viera etc... all those amazing leaders that all decided to show up at the same time.
He did much more in 2006 imo. that team without him was a wreckage.
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Re: One Man Army
by la_liga1 Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:01 pm
ronaldo__9 wrote:la_liga1 wrote:St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:Immaculate_Mole wrote:None.......
And no one ever has and no one ever will, the people that mention Maradona at Napoli and Dinho at Barca fail to realise the quality those players had alongside them to take those players to glory.
It's impossible for one player to take a team to success.
I think we all realize that a little bit, but there has to be a point at which a player is so influential, that we can call him such, even sometimes, regardless of the quality of talents he has around him.
No but Zidane single handedly carried france to the 98 world cup and 06 final. He did it by himself, it was all him.
Zidane only played great in the final of the '98 world cup. I think people literally have made up memories of how good he was in the '98 world cup.
Yeah I was just acting like your typical Zidane fanboy.
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Re: One Man Army
by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:02 pm
Except for one man........
Alan Shearer we averaged 5th with him in the side in the 10 years he played for us.
Then we get relegated :lol!:
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL @ Zidane in 98 he was suspended for half of the tournament FFS
You say +1 but i see no rep
Alan Shearer we averaged 5th with him in the side in the 10 years he played for us.
Then we get relegated :lol!:
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL @ Zidane in 98 he was suspended for half of the tournament FFS
chinomaster182 wrote:Immaculate_Mole wrote:None.......
And no one ever has and no one ever will, the people that mention Maradona at Napoli and Dinho at Barca fail to realise the quality those players had alongside them to take those players to glory.
It's impossible for one player to take a team to success.
+1, no prayers can be answered by a single player.
However, i would consider Messi, CR7 and Ibrahimovic "game changers", with a single stroke a brilliance they can turn a game around.
You say +1 but i see no rep
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Re: One Man Army
by Busby Babe Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:04 pm
Immaculate_Mole wrote:Except for one man........
Alan Shearer we averaged 5th with him in the side in the 10 years he played for us.
Then we get relegated :lol!:
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL @ Zidane in 98 he was suspended for half of the tournament FFS
But he was manager when you got relegated
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Re: One Man Army
by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:05 pm
ronaldo__9 wrote:Immaculate_Mole wrote:Except for one man........
Alan Shearer we averaged 5th with him in the side in the 10 years he played for us.
Then we get relegated :lol!:
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL @ Zidane in 98 he was suspended for half of the tournament FFS
But he was manager when you got relegated
That was'nt his fought that due to having 5 managers in one season
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Re: One Man Army
by Guest Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:05 pm
Downing
Adam almost single handedly kept Blackpool up
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Re: One Man Army
by Busby Babe Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:08 pm
Towards the end of the season Van Persie for Arsenal. Gerrard for Liverpool but they aren't as dependent on him anymore.
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Re: One Man Army
by Lord Spencer Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:12 pm
I agree with Mole here, and lol at Zidane carrying france in 98 and 2006; you seem to forget Thuram (who was a rock at both tournaments), Vieri, Barthez (who is a great goal keeper for the NT), and the rest were not mediocre at all.
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Re: One Man Army
by la_liga1 Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:15 pm
Robben for Bayern in the cl last year.
A lot of Ronaldo's season in 2007 08.
Ronaldinho in his first couple of seasons of Barca.
Kaka for milan in the cl in 2006 07.
Of course you need quality around you. It's not like shevchenko could win the world cup for ukraine. There's never been anything like that, even Maradona in 86 wasn't all him. But there's a point where you can give most of the credit to one player and call it a one man show.
A lot of Ronaldo's season in 2007 08.
Ronaldinho in his first couple of seasons of Barca.
Kaka for milan in the cl in 2006 07.
Of course you need quality around you. It's not like shevchenko could win the world cup for ukraine. There's never been anything like that, even Maradona in 86 wasn't all him. But there's a point where you can give most of the credit to one player and call it a one man show.
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Re: One Man Army
by la_liga1 Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:18 pm
Lord Spencer wrote:I agree with Mole here, and lol at Zidane carrying france in 98 and 2006; you seem to forget Thuram (who was a rock at both tournaments), Vieri, Barthez (who is a great goal keeper for the NT), and the rest were not mediocre at all.
Yeah I know I was kidding. But go on youtube to any Zidane video, you'll always find dumbasses who say exactly that. They have no idea who Deschamps, Dessaily, Blanc, Djorkaeff, Thuram etc are.
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Re: One Man Army
by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:20 pm
Lord Spencer wrote:I agree with Mole here, and lol at Zidane carrying france in 98 and 2006; you seem to forget Thuram (who was a rock at both tournaments), Vieri, Barthez (who is a great goal keeper for the NT), and the rest were not mediocre at all.
THE LORD SPENCER AGREE'S WITH MOI?
This is indeed a..............
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Re: One Man Army
by Mr Nick09 Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:34 pm
Ben Arfa was on his way before someone tore him apart.
i guess a lot of those players are pretty old now, a new generation will take over.
i guess a lot of those players are pretty old now, a new generation will take over.
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Re: One Man Army
by Guiltybystander Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:34 pm
Luis Saurez - I think he is already more of a one-man-army than Messi and CR, although he might not have reached there level yet (I think he will in the future).
He can win a game on his own.
He can win a game on his own.
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