Re: The Official Rival Thread

by Shed Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:45 pm

I'm not saying instead of Costa, I'm saying in addition to.

You can say there'll be issues of the starting spot, but fierce competition is hardly a bad thing (see Cech-Courtois), and surely Falcao would have been a better addition than Remy? It's not like money is a problem.

by Kick Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:57 pm

Because he is 28 years old (will be almost 29 by the time he gets back to 100% fitness) would cost 55m and is coming off a poor half season in the physical French league (a lot of Falcao's goals were Pens).

Remy on the other hand, is a year younger, cost at most 10.5m and is coming off a good season in England where he scored 15 goals + Remy deal was easy to secure while Falcao, with his 75m release clause would have either cost that, or very close to that with Madrid and City snooping around.

Thats not even mentioning the wage difference.

by Shed Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:10 am

Wages I'll take as a reasonable point, but the loan fee being thrown around is roundabout £20m rather than the huge sums you keep mentioning.

How City with their FFP sanctions and already having spent up to their alleged hard-line limit are able to swing it legally I have no idea.

by Kick Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:11 am

20m for a one year loan? rofl

Oh yeah, let's pay that.

Also, I think the fact we're still paying part of Torres wages has something to do with it.

by Shed Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:12 am

But we aren't, by all accounts.

by Kick Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:14 am

From what I have read, we are.

Also, if Falcao flops horribly, we would have wasted 20m on him AND not even own him. Sounds like the a recipe for a bad deal.

by Kick Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:22 am

Javier Hernandez looking likely to move to Madrid on loan, with an option to buy for 22m.

Glad we got Remy over him.

by Shed Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:23 am

Really?

by Kick Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:25 am

According to the latest reports.

by Shed Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:26 am

I meant the second part.

by Kick Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:30 am

You rate him higher than Remy?

by Shed Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:31 am

Probably, yea.

by Kick Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:38 am

He is probably a better goalscorer but Remy is just as quick and is a much better all-round footballer. Since Remy can dribble, pass and play in multiple positions.

by Shed Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:42 am

I'm not really arsed about the multiple positions thing.

Cheatcharito has proven he can perform and produce for a top side. Remy, not so much. At least not yet.

by Kick Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:46 am

He does have 59 goals in 153 games for Utd. Reasonable but not special.

by Shed Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:52 am

Considering his role with them for the entirety of his time there, I'd say that's damn near spectacular.

by Kick Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:58 am

Here is some interesting facts for you. (via wiki)

Total games: Remy 238. Hernandez 232
Total goals: Remy 91. Hernandez 86

Remy is a year and a half older than Hernandez but Remy has been scoring most of those goals for clubs like Newcastle, Nice and Marseille while most of Hernandez's come from Utd.

by Shed Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:04 am

Yea, that's my point. Hernandez has done it for a big side fighting for titles; Remy, as yet, hasn't. And like I said, the fact that the former was almost exclusively a bench player brought on as a sub for the majority of his appearances makes his superb record all the more impressive.

by Kick Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:07 am

Remy scoring for scrub teams like Nice and Newcastle is equally impressive due to his lack of service there.

Hernandez, while good, often got it served to him on a plate.

by Shed Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:14 am

You can say that if you'd like, but football doesn't get easier the higher up you go. Performing consistently for a team at the very top is much harder than doing so for a mid-table side where the pressure's considerably less.

by Kick Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:17 am

Considering he isn't coming with the pressure of being first choice. I think he'll handle the pressure.

I personally think Remy is the better player, but we shall see.

by Shed Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:18 am

I'm more than happy for you to be right, it goes without saying Wink

by Kick Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:20 am

@kpsundayworld 29m
ESPN reporting Man City are not pursuing any interest in Falcao. He would be an expensive deadline day buy or loan #MCFC #AFC #MUFC

by Shed Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:31 am

Wish I could believe it.

by Kick Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:33 am

A deal that makes no sense for them, I didn't believe it would happen.

by Shed Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:36 am

Face it Kickster – it's happening.

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