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Post by M99 Tue Feb 18, 2014 10:29 am

The last Italian team standing in the CL takes on Atletico tomorrow. Do any of you think we can win it?

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Post by Lord Spencer Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:09 am

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Post by McLewis Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:18 pm

Will be rooting for Milan regardless of how they do. I really hope they can pull off an upset, but it's extremely hard to see it.

If they lose, let's just hope they go down swinging.
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Post by S Tue Feb 18, 2014 1:58 pm

James Pallotta, the American owner of AS Roma, was openly enthusiastic in December after presenting a plan for a new, privately owned stadium to the mayor of Rome. Mayor Ignazio Marino was also enthusiastic, waving a Roma pennant and giving the “futuristic” design raves.

Both realize they are in the initial stages of not merely breaking ground on a 52,000-seat stadium, but breaking with Italian culture and tradition, which has dictated since the construction of the Colosseum, two generations after the birth of Christ, that sports and entertainment facilities in Italy are built, owned and operated by the government.

The only exception of note is the Juventus Stadium in Turin, which opened two years ago. And while that stadium is not publicly owned, the proceeds accrue to the nonprofit club that runs Juventus football.

The proposed stadium in Rome marks a radical departure in Italian sports architecture; it is designed by Americans for the American owners of AS Roma, the Boston-based investment group that introduced American commercialism to Serie A football.It will be privately funded, privately owned and privately operated in the traditional American for-profit manner.

The stadium is planned for a site on the banks of the Tiber called Tor di Valle. It’s about six miles southwest of the historic center of Rome. A horse track there will be demolished. It is served by regular train service and is easily accessible from the GRA, the ring road that circles Rome.

That site is owned by Luca Parnasi, the CEO of Parsitalia, a Roman real estate company. Parnasi is alternately listed as owner of the site and director of the stadium project, but Pallotta’s man overseeing the project is Mark Pannes, the managing director of Raptor Accelerator, who served an interim stint as AS Roma’s CEO before Italo Zanzi got the permanent job.

The architect is Dan Meis, who joined Woods Bagot in 2012 to head its global sports practice. His résumé includes the Staples Center and Lincoln Financial Field. He designed a 52,000-seat facility for Roma, but the design calls for expandability to 60,000, which would meet FIFA requirements to host major international matches.

Pallotta lists among the stadium’s features its adaptability for specific events. “It’s designed as a 52,000-seat stadium for Roma games, but we can hold hundreds of events there. It can be expanded to 60,000 for world-class soccer matches and can go down to 14,000 for Springsteen concerts,” said Pallotta with obvious pride. He said the facility will have a state-of-the art retail component and top-tier amenities for premium and VIP customers.

Meis said, “It will be the best stadium in the world.”

Details on the project are scant. Meis, Pannes and Pallotta all said it is politically imperative to unveil the project to Roma fans before responding to press inquiries. They expect to do that and provide renderings this month.

Neither Pallotta nor Zanzi would be specific about revenue predictions, but Zanzi said, “We expect the revenue from the new stadium to be transformative.”

The stadium’s cost is estimated at $227 million to $289 million (165 to 210 million euro). Ideally, it could open for the 2016-17 season, but that also bucks Italian tradition.

“From concept to construction, it takes seven to 10 years in Italy for a sports project to get off the ground,” said Cino Marchese, a Roman who once ran the Italian Open tennis event and has been a force in Italian sports business for a half-century. He said monumental bureaucracy in Italy, more than culture and tradition, discourages private development of sports facilities.

The Italian Parliament is wrestling with legislation that would allow construction to start within a year of the plan’s submission. The city’s support is equally crucial. After the meeting with AS Roma, the city’s planning director, Giovanni Caudo, and Marino both issued positive statements in the Campidoglio, the Michelangelo-designed piazza fronting city hall.
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Post by McLewis Tue Feb 18, 2014 2:04 pm

Read this with my breakfast as well this morning. Everyone sounds cautiously optimistic about this. It will interesting to hear what they have to say when they address the Roma tifosi directly about this, but until then many will remain skeptical.
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Post by Robespierre Tue Feb 18, 2014 2:06 pm

for me Milan won't lose at San Siro.
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Post by M99 Tue Feb 18, 2014 3:43 pm

Robespierre wrote:for me Milan won't lose at San Siro.

Stop jinxing ffs.
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Post by Robespierre Tue Feb 18, 2014 3:52 pm

M99 wrote:
Robespierre wrote:for me Milan won't lose at San Siro.

Stop jinxing ffs.

no seriously it was my forecast (but I said simply " not lose " ) .

On the other hand you  asked for an opinion.  

I do not feel the need to bring bad luck because  obviously I don't fear you can win the champions league,  complete indifference about Milan in CL this year to be fair.
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Post by S Tue Feb 18, 2014 4:01 pm

This reverse-jinxing shit needs to stop.Its pretty annoying to see even mods following this thing.
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Post by M99 Tue Feb 18, 2014 4:04 pm

It's a GL legend and has a pretty alarming success rate. We just need Gil predicting an Atletico thrashing to have the match in the bag.
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Post by Robespierre Tue Feb 18, 2014 4:19 pm

A general question : who do you rate the best player of Inter?
Handanovic? Hernanes ? Palacio ? Guarin ? Other?
Unlike other years, there is no clarity about it imo


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Post by M99 Tue Feb 18, 2014 4:21 pm

Hernanes.
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Post by zizzle Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:00 pm

Hernanes is up there, on form Palacio makes a good case as well. Guarin is too inconsistent, Handanovic is having a bad season, and Naga's defensive deficiencies are not funny to watch. So its between Palacio and Hernanes
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Post by chinomaster182 Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:48 pm

Maravilla Alvarez  :coffee: 
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Post by Lupi Tue Feb 18, 2014 6:05 pm

I think Milan can just beat AT Madrid at home but they need montolivo muntari/dejong ,kaka at top of their game to deal with a compressed AT Madrid side , the key for might be Milan avoiding 4 mid vs 2 mid to happen ,4-3-2-1 is what i would , Forza Milan  Thumbs up 
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Post by Kaladin Tue Feb 18, 2014 6:07 pm

Atleti are better in every phase of the game. Such an organised and well set up side with a fantastic coach. I just don't see us being able to beat them, especially since it's Seedorf's first CL match as a coach.

Spoiler:
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Post by flameas Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:35 am

I believe milan will go through, then meet barca and fail.

http://forzaitalianfootball.com/2014/02/roma-club-focus-2/

this man here writes about those stupid Curva closures under the roma club focus.
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Post by M99 Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:41 pm

Italy coach Cesare Prandelli believes Mario Balotelli can fulfil his potential if he avoids wasting energy on "trivial" matters.

The AC Milan forward often found himself in the headlines for off-the-field incidents during his time at former club Manchester City.

However, the 23-year-old has established himself as a key player at San Siro under both Massimiliano Allegri and Clarence Seedorf since his switch in January 2013.

Prandelli believes Balotelli still has plenty of room for development, but urged him to concentrate on football rather than other distractions.

"Mario Balotelli has the potential to be one of the greats. However, he needs to find a seriousness and a balance so that he can realise his potential," he told FIFA.com.

"In recent years he has wasted lots of energy on trivial things. The great champions don't do that. For them the only thing that matters is winning."

Balotelli will likely form a key part of Prandelli's attacking line-up at the World Cup this year - having featured regularly in his country's run to the Euro 2012 final and their qualifying campaign for Brazil 2014.

Prandelli explained there is a positive working rapport between the two, adding that Balotelli could prove pivotal for the Azzurri as they look to win the World Cup for a fifth time.

"We have a good relationship, and we both know how to get across what we want to say," he continued.

"All the coaches that have worked with Mario try to offer him something new, because they know the enormous potential he has. When he fulfils his potential he will make a huge difference to any team."
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Post by M99 Sat Feb 22, 2014 1:42 pm

Rafael Cabral out for the season.
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Post by McLewis Sat Feb 22, 2014 4:42 pm

Tore some ligaments I hear during the Swansea game....sad to see....he looked very good in that game too.
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Post by chinomaster182 Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:26 pm

More talk abouts Balotellis potential... At this point i'm sure we will forever speak of this concept such as in Cassanos case.
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Post by M99 Sun Feb 23, 2014 9:22 am

Naingollan :bow:
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Post by Forza Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:21 pm

I hope Maravilla took my advice and bet on Verona...

3-0 up at HT. Jankovic, Romulo, Toni.

After Jorginho has gone, this team still has some pillaging potential in it yet. Romulo, Albertazzi, Iturbe. :bow:
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Post by Robespierre Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:22 pm

lol Livorno already destroyed to HT
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Post by Kaladin Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:28 pm

Iturbe is such a f*cking beast, pls Sogliano bring him with you
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Post by Firenze Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:39 pm

Luca Toni 2 goals off of being the top scorer in Serie A and 2 assists off of being top assist provider too :bow:

Gilardino not far behind on goals either hmm

Both have more than Penatelli, call them up for the WC Proud
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