Liverpool vs Chelsea discussion

LMAO i never laughed so much from reading a thread.  

Thread of the year.   

LeVersacci wrote:

LMFAOOO

LeVersacci wrote:

LOL

^ this 1 was abit low in my opinion.

1991 wrote:

Red Alert wrote:Are you really calling us "victims fc" after what's came out in the past year?

You've been Victims FC for the better part of 30 years mate.

Is there action going to be taken for this? Really really over the line.

McAgger wrote:

1991 wrote:

Red Alert wrote:Are you really calling us "victims fc" after what's came out in the past year?

You've been Victims FC for the better part of 30 years mate.

Is there action going to be taken for this? Really really over the line.

Is that all you have to say for yourself you pos? Tell Sepi to stop hiding at RAWK too.

Got to say pool were poor today but still you won't face double buses every week

Agreed on early thread of the year contender.

This thread

"This does not *bleep* slip" should become a GL meme tbf.

I hope Sepi is still in good health...

RED wrote:Rodgers is clearly annoyed, give him a break. Nothing different to what SAF, Wenger, Mou etc, have said in the past.

Butthurt? yes, but it's normal.

It's great to see though

Agreed. Anyway it is perfect in this case

why i'm remembering lyrics from the song "London calling" is strange but i did know Chelsea have this one they got better results against top 4 teams and had bad results against lower table teams. Probably for their counter attacking football

I would not draw any conclusions about the title race or the Premier League table from the result of this match. Two or three games (from Man City's perspective) is massive in the Premier League.

Lupi wrote:why i'm remembering lyrics from the song "London calling" is strange but i did know Chelsea have this one they got better results against top 4 teams and had bad results against lower table teams. Probably for their counter attacking football

Chelsea average more possesion per game and shots per game than liverpool. Only difference is one team has a set of WC finishers and one team doesn't. If Chelsea had a striker who could punish the scrub teams the league would have been done weeks ago.

Funny how you speak about not having a finisher, yet despite dropping points against the scrub teams you guys seem to score goals against the bigger sides. I'll tell you something the reason the scrub teams beat you is because they use the same defensive set up you do, which makes it just as difficult for you guys to break down, were as the bigger sides attack you and you use the defensive set up and get the best out of them.

Winter is Coming wrote:Funny how you speak about not having a finisher, yet despite dropping points against the scrub teams you guys seem to score goals against the bigger sides. I'll tell you something the reason the scrub teams beat you is because they use the same defensive set up you do, which makes it just as difficult for you guys to break down, were as the bigger sides attack you and you use the defensive set up and get the best out of them.

Yes of course but against West Ham etc we're having like 20 attempts per game, against Swansea there is a blooper reel of just how awful our finishing is. That game in reality wasn't 'close' and should have been 3/4 - nil yet we just can't capatilise on chances.

Like I said we average more shots per game than liverpool, we struggle to score against relegation candidates yet Liverpool are on track for the most goals ever scored in a season. Can't tell me we don't lack a proper finisher.

I'm not saying you don't need a finisher, but against fodder teams not really. As far as chances etc go the same thing Barcelona/Bayern could say when they faced you guys or more recently both Atleti/Pool who had 20+ shots against you guys and didn't capitalize on chances.

As i said before you struggle to score against those teams because the way those teams are set up defensively...Messi hasn't scored against you guys in 8 games does that mean he sucks? Or should be replaced? And he's had a lot of shots during those 8 games.

There's a difference between struggling to score against one of the best defensive setups in the world and struggling to score against Aston Villa. It's not like we struggle to create chances against these teams, we just struggle to finish them of. These teams would setup the same way against any top 4 team yet we seem to be the only ones who can't put them to bed with ease. Compared to 3/4 seasons ago when we used to regularly hit them for 8 it's not that we can't break them down it's just not being able to take easy chances. Again with Swansea Eto'o missed 2 open goals, Salah missed 1/2 very easy chances and the list goes on. Chances come and we simply don't take them, it's not an issue of breaking them down/them being impeccible defensivly like we are.

lszanto wrote:There's a difference between struggling to score against one of the best defensive setups in the world and struggling to score against Aston Villa. It's not like we struggle to create chances against these teams, we just struggle to finish them of. These teams would setup the same way against any top 4 team yet we seem to be the only ones who can't put them to bed with ease. Compared to 3/4 seasons ago when we used to regularly hit them for 8 it's not that we can't break them down it's just not being able to take easy chances. Again with Swansea Eto'o missed 2 open goals, Salah missed 1/2 very easy chances and the list goes on. Chances come and we simply don't take them, it's not an issue of breaking them down/them being impeccible defensivly like we are.

Other teams have struggled against them tho. For example Sunderland, Everton put only by them recently, City drew 2-2 against them as the home team, Liverpool won by one and you guys lost by one. The difference here is, not to take anything away from the other top teams, but they aren't competing in CL or they would also struggle a little more then they are as well.

The same can be said about your defensive unit, its not like teams struggle to create against Chelsea, but they struggle to finish, i.e. your game against Bayern earlier this season they had what 19 shots on target and only scored 2 not like they couldn't create against you guys or break you down, but they simply couldn't put the ball in the net when they should be. Just as you guys against the like of Villa, etc.

For some reason there seems to be a relationship between shots and chances here that is too strong.

Having more shots per game than Liverpool doesn't mean you're creating more chances...it means you're taking more shots. Same as taking a billion shots against a team like Chelsea or some other team parking an airplane doesn't mean they've created many chances, it just means they took a billion shots. Look at Gerrard today, how many shots did he have alone? How many of those even had a hope of going in? Maybe one.

Winter is Coming wrote:Funny how you speak about not having a finisher, yet despite dropping points against the scrub teams you guys seem to score goals against the bigger sides. I'll tell you something the reason the scrub teams beat you is because they use the same defensive set up you do, which makes it just as difficult for you guys to break down, were as the bigger sides attack you and you use the defensive set up and get the best out of them.

Exactly. its shocking why the top 4 teams didnt give them some of their own medicine. liverpool have the players to sit deep and counter, but they were stubborn and they played possession.

CBarca wrote:For some reason there seems to be a relationship between shots and chances here that is too strong.

Having more shots per game than Liverpool doesn't mean you're creating more chances...it means you're taking more shots. Same as taking a billion shots against a team like Chelsea or some other team parking an airplane doesn't mean they've created many chances, it just means they took a billion shots. Look at Gerrard today, how many shots did he have alone? How many of those even had a hope of going in? Maybe one.

Yes that's why i'm pointing out specific points in games when ccc's have been created and we are simply not putting them away.

Giggity5313 wrote:

Winter is Coming wrote:Funny how you speak about not having a finisher, yet despite dropping points against the scrub teams you guys seem to score goals against the bigger sides. I'll tell you something the reason the scrub teams beat you is because they use the same defensive set up you do, which makes it just as difficult for you guys to break down, were as the bigger sides attack you and you use the defensive set up and get the best out of them.

Exactly. its shocking why the top 4 teams didnt give them some of their own medicine. liverpool have the players to sit deep and counter, but they were stubborn and they played possession.

I think we all know had it not been for Gerard they'd probably end the game 0-0 at the rate it was going and Rodgers would've been a bit more defensively set up holding onto a point which would still have Pool in the lead, but the first goal messed everything up for them.

Winter is Coming wrote:

Giggity5313 wrote:

Winter is Coming wrote:Funny how you speak about not having a finisher, yet despite dropping points against the scrub teams you guys seem to score goals against the bigger sides. I'll tell you something the reason the scrub teams beat you is because they use the same defensive set up you do, which makes it just as difficult for you guys to break down, were as the bigger sides attack you and you use the defensive set up and get the best out of them.

Exactly. its shocking why the top 4 teams didnt give them some of their own medicine. liverpool have the players to sit deep and counter, but they were stubborn and they played possession.

I think we all know had it not been for Gerard they'd probably end the game 0-0 at the rate it was going and Rodgers would've been a bit more defensively set up holding onto a point which would still have Pool in the lead, but the first goal messed everything up for them.

This is nonsense. You do realize we had a stone wall handball penalty denied, right? Which means we wouldshould have been up 1-0 before the Gerrard error. "Messed up everything" yeah right

Yeah a tie would have still been great for liverpool. oh well, it is what it is..