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Post by Luca Tue 5 Sep 2017 - 22:59

It's not even a knock on Conti, Zappacosta was just really impresssive when he came on.

Also, what's with Conti being subbed so early in the second half? Did he get hurt or is Ventura just that tactically inept that he decided three minutes into the second half to make a change rather than at half time?

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Post by rincon Tue 5 Sep 2017 - 23:03

^he got hurt. Tried to continue but couldn't and came off.

But yes, its what I think too. Zappacosta looked impressive. He had this level for a while last season when he broke through and made the NT but then struggled for a bit. This Zappacosta I'd like to be a starter until Conti hopefully comes through with Milan.
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Post by GiancarloC Wed 6 Sep 2017 - 0:35

Conti probably sprained his ankle. And said it happened around the 20th minute. That is why he had to be removed. Not a serious injury, but it most likely had an impact on his game.

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Post by GiancarloC Wed 6 Sep 2017 - 0:38

Conti has been pretty good with Milan from what I have seen and has been our starter. Here is what he had to say about what happened:

http://app.football-italia.net/index.htm#article/footballitalia-109455&menu=news-all

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Post by Tomwin Lannister Wed 6 Sep 2017 - 0:38

If they don't start putting Insigne exactly where he needs to play then don't even call him up as a sub. He's useless every time I've seen him play for Italy but he's also playing practically as a wing back.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Wed 6 Sep 2017 - 0:39

Oh and disclaimer I never watched this game so if Insigne beasted in this shit formation then that's an exception Laughing
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Post by Luca Wed 6 Sep 2017 - 0:53

Tomwin Lannister wrote:Oh and disclaimer I never watched this game so if Insigne beasted in this shit formation then that's an exception Laughing


He didnt and you're right. It would be like Juve playing a 4-4-2 with Dybala as the right midfielder. It's a massive waste.

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Post by GiancarloC Wed 6 Sep 2017 - 3:17

http://app.football-italia.net/index.htm#article/footballitalia-109459&menu=news-all

Lmao there is a difference between creative possession and crap ball holding. Buffon needs to retire.

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Post by Warrior Wed 6 Sep 2017 - 6:33

Guess what ? He will soon. Let him be content with his starter status and be a mentor to Donnarumma.

4-2-4, Ventura, too much possession... Gigi is way above all that. Barely a concern for him anymore, as long as the Nazionale qualifies and it's 90% gonna happen now. Then he'll feature in his last World Cup and retire right after. You really think he gives 2 shits about the post game interview in WC qualifiers ? Buffon is just too polite to tell the journos to *bleep* off. That's what a true captain is, no need to talk in the medias or bash on Ventura like everyone else would.
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Post by GiancarloC Wed 6 Sep 2017 - 6:42

Lmao spin spin spin me around.

He will retire after his third group stage exit lol?

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Post by GiancarloC Wed 6 Sep 2017 - 6:46

At least Italy looks better than the USMNT. Now that is a blundering embarrassment to watch lol. I guess they are just replicating their country.

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Post by Warrior Wed 6 Sep 2017 - 6:50

Italy has a talented squad, the 4-2-4 will be scrapped by then.

But i guess he needs to retire so your milanista child can look good right ?
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Post by GiancarloC Wed 6 Sep 2017 - 7:13

The 4-2-4 will most likely be scrapped after Ventura is fired and Italy exits at the group stage. Then we can all talk about how the team is in transition. Except it's been in transition for well over 11 years. Italy has some talent, and a lot of rubbish. It's a diamond in the rough, but Ventura isn't the one that can polish it. Frankly I don't know anyone would want to or even could at this point.

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Post by Warrior Wed 6 Sep 2017 - 7:29

Allegri or Sarri could but i don't think they want. A foreign coach is out of question i guess.

Ventura won't keep the 4-2-4, it cannot happen in a reasonable world. Let's hope this nightmare vs Spain/Israel was the final nail in the coffin.
In a World Cup situation i do believe Italy will have a more serious/intelligent approach.

Immobile is a sub at best. 4-3-3 please, it's OBVIOUS to everyone bar the manager, unbelievable :facepalm:
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Post by rincon Sat 30 Sep 2017 - 16:33

The new squad

GK: Gianluigi Buffon (Juventus), Gianluigi Donnarumma (Milan), Mattia Perin (Genoa);

D: Davide Astori (Fiorentina), Andrea Barzagli (Juventus), Leonardo Bonucci (Milan), Giorgio Chiellini (Juventus), Danilo D’Ambrosio (Inter), Matteo Darmian (Manchester United), Daniele Rugani (Juventus), Leonardo Spinazzola (Atalanta), Davide Zappacosta (Chelsea);

M: Daniele De Rossi (Roma), Marco Parolo (Lazio), Lorenzo Pellegrini (Roma), Marco Verratti (Paris Saint Germain), Federico Bernardeschi (Juventus), Antonio Candreva (Inter), Stephan El Shaarawy (Roma), Lorenzo Insigne (Napoli), Simone Verdi (Bologna);

F: Andrea Belotti (Torino), Eder Citadin Martins (Inter), Manolo Gabbiadini (Southampton), Ciro Immobile (Lazio).

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Post by rincon Mon 2 Oct 2017 - 13:23

Belotti injured and replaced with Inglese. Verratti injured as usual and replaced by Barella (first cap).

De Rossi in doubt since he has some inflammation from the Milan match. Marchisio is still of course. Hopefully Ventura calls up Gagliardini if De Rossi has to go.

I guess Parolo and Pellegrini will be starting in these circumstances.
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Post by Robespierre Mon 2 Oct 2017 - 16:27

Inglese Laughing
Gagliardini Laughing
Gabbiadini Laughing

The World Cup race is going to be lysergic .


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Post by rincon Mon 2 Oct 2017 - 16:39

Pellegrini out too. Gagliardini in. :facepalm:

The first 4 midfielders injured. Who knows who will play these two games.
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Post by Kaladin Mon 2 Oct 2017 - 16:43

Bonaventura--Gagliardini--Jorginho

But that will never happen
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Post by rincon Mon 2 Oct 2017 - 17:09

He-who-must-not-be-named will never be called up (Jorginho). Maybe its because of the Brazil comments. The reason cannot be a sporting one.

Is Bonaventura fit and on form?
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Post by Kaladin Mon 2 Oct 2017 - 17:26

Not in form but fit, he just came back from an injury so he's finding his feet
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Post by breva Wed 4 Oct 2017 - 1:30

Decent talent but a very limited manager. Even if Italy gets through the playoffs, they will be returning home quickly. The 12 year itch ends in 2018.
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Post by Warrior Wed 4 Oct 2017 - 5:47

so he goes with the 4-2-4 again ? how foolish

and the plan is to give minutes to some proper finished lads Eder & Gabbiadini ffs :facepalm: even Zaza is far better than them
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Post by Robespierre Thu 5 Oct 2017 - 9:16

Bonaventura hasn't good tradition with Italy, called up just few times in these years even if there are worse players and even if he plays with Milan ( yep , playing with Juve,Milan,Inter help them, I suppose De Sciglio was called up these years just for this reason. But even Gagliardini's been called up back even if he was crap in this beginning of season).
I hoped it tbh, there's derby next week and while we 've some of our best players to play in South America, Milan keeps in the cooler his 2 best players ( Suso too ) . good for them
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Post by rincon Thu 5 Oct 2017 - 23:27

The U21 won their game vs Hungary 6-2.

Scuffet; Calabria, Romagna, Mancini, Adjapong; Murgia, Locatelli, De Paoli; Cutrone (Orsolini 46), Vido, Chiesa (Verde 46)

5 goals in the first half. 2 from Cutrone, 2 from Chiesa and 1 De Paoli
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Post by Luca Thu 5 Oct 2017 - 23:40

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Some finished scrub wearing the new Italy kit

Might risk it all for a Bernardeschi home kit hmm

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