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Post by BeautifulGame Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:47 pm

There is a difference btw Suarez enhancing the team and giving us more edge AND team build around him.

The reason why kill scrub teams with ease is because of our system where we create abundance of chances.Obviously Suarez being world class player helps but main factor is the system and BR .

Our system wasnt build around anyone.We missed Suarez for 6 games last year and we managed to stay close to top comfortably and now with lot more depth its laughable to say we cant stay in touch for 3 more games.

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Post by futbol Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:48 pm

Stats are well and dandy but it doesn't disprove my statement. Of the 5 EPL games which Suarez missed last season 3 were narrow 1-0s, 1 draw, 1 loss and none of those teams were actually particularly tough except United like your fixture list the upcoming season will be. You had 1 shot on target against Aston Villa for example: http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/719913/Live

My point is simply that 9 games without Suarez can already kill your entire season. Unless you keep him but add quality like Sanchez on top of it (but Barca ain't selling Sanchez without replacing him). Make that actually 13 or 14 games as I don't see how someone who will miss 4 months of training will come in and influence games. Last season he could at least train with his teammates and had just 5 games of rest. Training day in day out is so much more crucial to match fitness though.

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Post by sportsczy Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:52 pm

Liverpool did great to start the season without Suarez this past year... if i remember correctly, Sturridge and Sterling were killing it and Liverpool were in 1st place when suarez returned from suspension (for his 2nd chomp).
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:00 pm

Liverpool still easily finish top 4 without Suarez.

Who gonna get instead? Spurs or Everton? Lol pls.

I do mean last season btw, who knows how teams will strengthen this summer.
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Post by BeautifulGame Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:00 pm

Nah Sterling only started regularly and shining in the 2nd half of the season.From the West Brom game to be specific.Once he started though he was GOAT  :bow:  even better than Suarez and STudrrige in our late run in

It was Studrrige who was carrying us when Suarez was suspended.he has record like 9 goals in 10 matches without Suarez i think  Very Happy 

@fusball

Yeah that Villa game we were poor but absolutely battered stoke first match even though the score line would say 1-0.We had 6-0 Newcastle away and fulham 4-1(i think) the previous season as well.

We will miss him certainly massively but now with Sterling in and lot more depth in the squad we can manage until he returns imo.

Anyway  the ban will be reduced after the appeal  :coffee:
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Post by Arsenalfaithfull Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:02 pm

Liverpool why you gota cock block us ffs.
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Post by futbol Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:06 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:
@Futbol, your argument makes sense but for 9 games Pool can survive, and i think not having him for the beginning of the season wont be that prejudicial for them. they can still get results and stay around the top until suarez returns.


For Barca and Madrid in La Liga that's maybe the case. But for Liverpool in the Premier League 9 games (some tough ones in there as well) without their MVP? I expect the EPL title race to be the most competitive in many years next season.

Surely we can agree that Mourinho in his 2nd season will not drop out of the top 4, especially after adding a striker and Fabregas. They were already close to winning it last season. For me they are next season's winners.

City? Veeery unlikely. Too much firepower.

Arsenal make it everytime. It's like a law. 4th place specialists.

So now is the question: Will United, after adding a proper coach, adding players and no CL distraction remain outside the top 4 AGAIN?

For me the likeliest is Liverpool dropping out, particularly when missing their MVP for a quarter of the season. Last season was slightly punching above their weight IMO. The only team where everything clicked and some more while Chelsea had not 1 functioning striker, United had Moyes and Arsenal had some major injuries to Rambo and Flopzil. I might be undererstimating them and Sepi will not lend me his sister ever again but that's how I see it in all honesty. Sad

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Post by BeautifulGame Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:08 pm

Actually has any decent english source has linked Sanchez to Arsenal? Guardian/Times/BBC?

Maybe its Arsenal rumors thats blocking us  Laughing 
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Post by Arsenalfaithfull Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:15 pm

Adding 2 players will not be enough for United to displace Liverpool or any one else out of the top 4 imho. To assume that Suarez is the core reason to their resurgence is a bit disrespectful to their manager and other players who have stepped up.

Also, LVG is no Alex Ferguson. There is nothing which suggests that he will get the team running from the get go. Moyes wasnt the only reason why the team was soo poor last season. A lot of the players simply were washed up, or were made to look like super stars under SAF.
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Post by Arsenalfaithfull Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:17 pm

I personally think that there is enough quality within the Liverpool squad for them to balance the league run with other cup games. At worst, they may have to not gaf about the Capital 1 cup.
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Post by Abramovich Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:49 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Liverpool still easily finish top 4 without Suarez.

Who gonna get instead? Spurs or Everton? Lol pls.

I do mean last season btw, who knows how teams will strengthen this summer.


Man Utd?
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Post by McAgger Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:51 pm

He means this past season.
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Post by RealGunner Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:25 pm

HEIL MEIN REDS wrote:Btw, if Arsenal buy Sanchez, will they still buy a striker?


Not a marquee striker. A Giroud back up perhaps unless Joel stays
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:29 pm

imo that he is not allowed to train with his team is absolutely scandalous. wtf is it with this over the top punishment.
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Post by Helmer Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:38 pm

RealGunner wrote:
HEIL MEIN REDS wrote:Btw, if Arsenal buy Sanchez, will they still buy a striker?


Not a marquee striker. A Giroud back up perhaps unless Joel stays

campbell, looking in good shape
Hapless_Hans wrote:imo that he is not allowed to train with his team is absolutely scandalous. wtf is it with this over the top punishment.

yes it is and after the appeal, i think it should be reduced

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Post by Abramovich Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:50 pm

You still need a better striker than Giroud if you want to challenge for the title imo.
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Post by Helmer Sun Jun 29, 2014 11:34 pm

BeautifulGame wrote:Nah Sterling only started regularly and shining in the 2nd half of the season.From the West Brom game to be specific.Once he started though he was GOAT  :bow:  even better than Suarez and STudrrige in our late run in

It was Studrrige who was carrying us when Suarez was suspended.he has record like 9 goals in 10 matches without Suarez i think  Very Happy 
in the next season it will be
Gerrard
Hendo Can/Lallana
Coutinho/Lallana
Studge and Sterling
we will just rip apart the league  pirat 

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Post by windkick Sun Jun 29, 2014 11:43 pm

would be nice if Barca spent the amount of energy they are using trying to get Suarez, to get a few quality defenders lol
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Post by Helmer Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:10 am

Fußball wrote:It would be in Liverpool's interest to lower their demands if Alexis is to be included in the deal IMO. If Barca sell Alexis to someone else in the EPL like Arsenal or United and pay cash only to Liverpool because they remain stingy with their buyout demand that would only strengthen direct rivals of Liverpool and which other player of Sanchez caliber can Liverpool get this window? Rather Sanchez + € 30M than Sanchez going to United and asking € 80M cash IMO.
we will also frrack around then and say 'if you sell Alexis to some other EPL team, we will not sell Suarez to you'
as simple as that

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Post by McAgger Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:13 am

HEIL MEIN REDS wrote:
BeautifulGame wrote:Nah Sterling only started regularly and shining in the 2nd half of the season.From the West Brom game to be specific.Once he started though he was GOAT  :bow:  even better than Suarez and STudrrige in our late run in

It was Studrrige who was carrying us when Suarez was suspended.he has record like 9 goals in 10 matches without Suarez i think  Very Happy 
in the next season it will be
Gerrard
Hendo Can/Lallana
Coutinho/Lallana
Studge and Sterling
we will just rip apart the league  pirat 


Dear lord I hope to god that's not our starting line up or we're gonna be properly *bleep*.

Must keep Suarez. If that's not possible then get two top class players for his money. Sanchez+Whoever(preferably Hames).

Gerrard
Hendo - Lallana
Coutinho
Suarez - Sturridge
Sterling rotating with the front 3.

or

Gerrard
Hendo - Lallana
Hames
Sanchez - Sturridge
with Sterling and Coutinho rotating in there for front 3 and Lallana.
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Post by McAgger Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:16 am

BeautifulGame wrote: Barcelona to make opening bid of "30M + 6-7M incentives + Alexis" for Liverpool's Luis Suarez. Clubs will talk in coming days

http://www.sport.es/es/noticias/barca/luis-suarez-barca-van-mano-3338862


reject please. terrible deal for us.
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Post by McAgger Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:18 am

Natalie Portman wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:sepi, barca can sell him to another team, use that money and pay u the rest, it doesnt matter for them.

you confirm that the clause is not 100 mil but 80 mil like we always told u?


If Barca sell Sanchez to someone else, it's very unlikely that they get all the amount UP-FRONT.

Whereas the clause has to be paid UP-FRONT . all money. that was my point.

and its '80M pounds, but you've been saying 80m euros...that was the difference.


If we don't get a world class replacement for Suarez we WILL NOT sell Suarez. It's simple as that. If they sell Sanchez to someone else then there's one less player of that talent level we can get.
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Post by RealGunner Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:38 am

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Post by Robespierre Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:41 am

AS Roma is trying to take Ferreira Carrasco from Monaco.
The agreement between 2 clubs doesn't seem far.
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Post by RedOranje Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:54 am

Hapless_Hans wrote:imo that he is not allowed to train with his team is absolutely scandalous. wtf is it with this over the top punishment.
Can't train with team.
Can't attend matches in stands.
Can't visit training ground for medical attention or meetings.
Can't be in any team photos for the season (unless taken after ban).
Can't be a part of any LFC merchandizing or advertising campaigns started during ban.
All too related to playing the game to be allowed under the ban.

But he CAN transfer between clubs.
That's NOT related to playing the game.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:02 am

those are parts of the ban that will be changed after appeal, it's utterly ridiculous. It's as if fifa want him to disappear for 4 mnonths
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