Re: Arsenal are back?

by Hapless_Hans Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:29 pm

they are a much better team though today than they were yesterday.

Oh and LOL @ Franchise for belittling Khedira when Barcelona are about to blow all their money on Suarez instead of getting reinforcements for defense and defensive midfield.

Khedira would be an improvement to Barca's midfield imo.

by RealGunner Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:30 pm

His current position is basically RF so he is happy with that and so are we. He wouldn't score 20+ playing out n out ST tbh.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:30 pm

Define "back"

Because they were top of the table for the most weeks of anyone last season but fell off due to big injuries to the likes of Walcott and Ramsey.

Could really argue they already were "back".

by S Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:32 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Define "back"

Because they were top of the table for the most weeks of anyone last season but fell off due to big injuries to the likes of Walcott and Ramsey.

Could really argue they already were "back".

Capitulating in crucial periods of the season doesnt really suggest the Old 'winning' Arsenal were back more like a reminder of the struggles they went through in recent years.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:42 pm

I know that, that's why i asked Nick to define "back". If he means what you described then No they are not and signing some players won't immediately change that.

They'll need to back it up with trophies consistently.

by Peccadillo Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:24 pm

If we sign a DM (Gustavo/Khedira/Bender/Schneid) and decent striker to compete with Giroud (Remy).. we should be in for a title challenge.

This was always the plan, pay stadium off, proper sponsorship deals. "Transitional period" can often be overused and an excuse, in Arsenals case it certainly was not. Stadiums aren't cheap. But instead people would prefer to call the best manager in England senile and incompetent.

by DeletedUser#1 Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:27 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Define "back"

Because they were top of the table for the most weeks of anyone last season but fell off due to big injuries to the likes of Walcott and Ramsey.

Could really argue they already were "back".

They didn't fall off due to injuries.

You don't lose 6-3, 5-1, 6-0, and 3-0 to teams around you because of injuries, They fell off due to tactical naivety in big games.

by lenear1030 Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:26 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:Let's not get ahead of ourselves now.

Fwiw the positions everyone thought needed improving most urgently are CF and DM, unless you count Alexis as a CF none of them have been addressed so far.

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by BarrileteCosmico Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:38 pm

Arsenal pls sign Masche, we'll give him to you for just 24m. Best destroyer in the world.

by Raptorgunner Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:38 pm

S wrote:
Butt wrote:
Fußball wrote:€ 35M? Nice try. The 2 most trustworthy sources in England and Barcelona are reporting close to € 45M.

Arsenal are close to signing Alexis Sanchez. Clubs reached a deal in principle for around 44M, and player agreed personal terms. [bbc]

Arsenal pay around 45M for Chilean forward Alexis Sanchez (25). [catradio]

BBC is the most trusted source in UK and they say £35M

Thats 44m in euros.

Barca milked Arsenal here.Good business for them.

Take away Song money, we paid nothing for him. Laughing

We got what 20m for Song? rofl

by Peccadillo Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:23 pm

Didn't we sell Overmars to you 14 years ago for about the same amount Laughing

@ the concept of Barcelona milking anyone

35mil.. a fine price.

by Kick Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:28 pm

Khedira is going to Chelsea, straight swap with Ramires :coffee:

Also, Arsenal never went anyway, and signing Sanchez doesn't all of a sudden make them completely different.

by DuringTheWar Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:36 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Arsenal pls sign Masche, we'll give him to you for just 24m. Best destroyer in the world.

Another of your player's careers need saving huh?

by BarrileteCosmico Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:53 pm

I would say his career has been ridiculously succesful since joining Barca, and that is the objective truth.

But I think the only way the club is going to actually buy a CB is if they sell Masche. Which they won't. Because he's a leader and just signed til 2019.

So anyways it was just wishful thinking on my end hoping we could be forced into purchasing a CB rather than buy toys we don't need nor can use.

by Peccadillo Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:51 am

Not that it'll happen or matters, but how much do you think macsh would go for if Barca bought a more traditional CB?

by Peccadillo Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:54 am

@Kick - I can see Khedira going to Chelsea. In part cos of the mou connection, but also because I can see him more suitable than Matic - Cesc, or Matic -Ramires (obviously)

by S Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:00 am

Peccadillo wrote: @ the concept of Barcelona milking anyone

35mil.. a fine price.

Indeed its funny considering their past but upwards of 40m euros for this guy who had like one good season with them is overpaying in my opinion.

Arsenal are not elite so they have to pay a bit more than usual if they want to land big targets.(But they're slowly getting there anyway)

by Kick Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:44 am

Peccadillo wrote:@Kick - I can see Khedira going to Chelsea. In part cos of the mou connection, but also because I can see him more suitable than Matic - Cesc, or Matic -Ramires (obviously)

Hence why it makes sense.

As soon as Mourinho realises that Madrid want Ramires, we'll swap them.

After Pogba rejects the hell out of us Laughing

anyway. Back On topic.

by The Franchise Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:46 am

Hapless_Hans wrote:they are a much better team though today than they were yesterday.

Oh and LOL @ Franchise for belittling Khedira when Barcelona are about to blow all their money on Suarez instead of getting reinforcements for defense and defensive midfield.

Khedira would be an improvement to Barca's midfield imo.

What does Khedira have to do with poor Barca transfers? lol

Switching up points dont make Khedira any better.

Khedira would be an improvement of Barca B midfield, perhaps.

by futbol Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:53 am

The Franchise wrote:

Khedira would be an improvement of Barca B midfield, perhaps.

You take that back, that's an insult to Samper and Denis Suarez!!! Mad

by urbaNRoots Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:06 am

Barça would sell Mascherano after signing a new contract? I would love that to happen but I don't believe Barça are planning to sell him.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:13 am

Natalie Portman wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Define "back"

Because they were top of the table for the most weeks of anyone last season but fell off due to big injuries to the likes of Walcott and Ramsey.

Could really argue they already were "back".

They didn't fall off due to injuries.

You don't lose 6-3, 5-1, 6-0, and 3-0 to teams around you because of injuries, They fell off due to tactical naivety in big games.

Yes i'm sure having Walcott, Ozil, Ramsey, Wilshere, Podolski and Oxlade all out for months at a time during the season had no impact what so ever.... Rolling Eyes

by Hapless_Hans Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:21 am

I forgot, it's only the finest of the finest for Barca. Let's see who you're left with then with Xavi off and Busquets over it.

by S Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:40 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Natalie Portman wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Define "back"

Because they were top of the table for the most weeks of anyone last season but fell off due to big injuries to the likes of Walcott and Ramsey.

Could really argue they already were "back".

They didn't fall off due to injuries.

You don't lose 6-3, 5-1, 6-0, and 3-0 to teams around you because of injuries, They fell off due to tactical naivety in big games.

Yes i'm sure having Walcott, Ozil, Ramsey, Wilshere, Podolski and Oxlade all out for months at a time during the season had no impact what so ever....

Their whole backline was fit and healthy tho.Their defense was also supposedly called the best defense in the league before those games.

by TalkingReckless Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:55 am

S wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Natalie Portman wrote:

They didn't fall off due to injuries.

You don't lose 6-3, 5-1, 6-0, and 3-0 to teams around you because of injuries, They fell off due to tactical naivety in big games.

Yes i'm sure having Walcott, Ozil, Ramsey, Wilshere, Podolski and Oxlade all out for months at a time during the season had no impact what so ever....

Their whole backline was fit and healthy tho.Their defense was also supposedly called the best defense in the league before those games.

A defense is nothing if you don't have a midfield backing it.

by S Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:00 am

Butt wrote:
S wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

Yes i'm sure having Walcott, Ozil, Ramsey, Wilshere, Podolski and Oxlade all out for months at a time during the season had no impact what so ever....

Their whole backline was fit and healthy tho.Their defense was also supposedly called the best defense in the league before those games.

A defense is nothing if you don't have a midfield backing it.

Was your whole midfield out injured ?

Ramsey was missed i agree.But can you suggest that his absence alone was the reason you lost to teams by huge margins ?

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