Barclay's Premier League '14-'15 discussion V3

Hazard was fantastic. Gil hyperbole aside it's easy to see why people rate him.

Di Maria on the wing is a waste of his skills. It also exposes his poor decision making lol.

Thought Hazard was good compared to his other big game performances. That merely means he was ok though. He didn't go into hiding and he made somewhat of an impact but to say he tore anyone apart is ludicrous.

His impact maxed at getting through on goal and then missing a sitter, really. Won a couple free kicks.

Willian has to be the highest paid paid person for what he offers. 30 million gets you high work rate....Surely Chelsea could have promoted some Academy player to do that for that amount.

GL is a very funny forum hyperboles from almost every poster. Never fails to amuse

Surprised Phil Dowd fell for Di Maria's razzie award winning performances today, especially the one at the end that got Ivanovic sent off

In other news: Tottenham

Hazard had an ok game. People saying otherwise are hyperboling...or Chelsea fans.

Cesc...does anyone if he played today?

Drogba though This guy is the ultimate big game player.

Our lot played well. Matched them all over the pitch. A draw was the fair result even though stats suggest we were the dominant team.

Fellaini is beginning to look like a United player. Well done Marion!!!!

http://www.goallegacy.net/t36649p468-barclay-s-premier-league-14-15-discussion-v3#1320120

I confirm what I had written about Pochettino...
Tottenham also this year loses against Newcastle at WHL, and that Newcastle was a better team ( Cabaye ) and in that case Krul played an unreal match ... this year Newcastle definitely deserved  to win

I see no change than last year,  and he doesn't get same criticals than AVB (overrated though  )

while if I see a great change , that is on West Ham .
Enough surprising the mutation made by Allardyce, this is his twin brother?
West Ham plays a very good football since first match against Tottenham

Fellaini ruined Cesc today.

2 good games by Fellaini in a row. Possible comeback?

Lumiere_Blanche wrote:
and agreed di maria had an awful game today by his standards.

LVG played him on the right ffs, it's like he hasn't seen any of the Madrid games where he played there

Di Maria is a good enough player at RW
He's very good at LW
And excellent at LM

LVG literally played him in his worst position.

RealGunner wrote:Fellaini ruined Cesc today.

2 good games by Fellaini in a row. Possible comeback?

I'm starting to believe. Playing with a lot of confidence atm.

ADM had an off night, he is wasted as a winger. With Rooney back, he'll revert back to LCM and beast like he has all season prior to the last 2 games.

Spurs lost to NewC at home though

did falcao play? is he injured?

RealGunner wrote:Fellaini ruined Cesc today.

2 good games by Fellaini in a row. Possible comeback?

Using him well.

They let Blind come deep to build the play up in between the CB's.

Mata and him swap places so Mata can assist the build up and if Man Utd are forced to go long they have someone who can challenge the high balls.

chad4401 wrote:did falcao play? is he injured?

No he did not play. He's injured.

BarrileteCosmico wrote:

Lumiere_Blanche wrote:
and agreed di maria had an awful game today by his standards.

LVG played him on the right ffs, it's like he hasn't seen any of the Madrid games where he played there

Di Maria is a good enough player at RW
He's very good at LW
And excellent at LM

LVG literally played him in his worst position.

yea I know I know bruh. From the very first moment he didnt look comfortable on the right. It was clearly because of his position on the pitch it was evident.
But the reason why he was deployed there was to maximize his impact by pitting him against Felipe Luiz who for some weird reason was identified as their weak link )

The problem for us is that we have 2 players who are GOAT (ADM and Adnan) the left but none to do that on the right. So it was obvious one of them would be every time playing in a not so desirable side of the pitch. While adm found it hard in the 1st half, januzaj really thrived on the left where as in the 2nd half when adm was brought to the left and he played better, adnan was kinda anonymous on the right. So this problem is bound to happen again if LvG uses this system again. Onus will be to get a right winger (a good one) so that di maria can permanently move to the left and Januzaj to a more central area.

Courtois, Hazard, Fellaini, Januzaj vs Shaw, Smalling, Terry, Cahill


Same number of Belgians players as English playing yesterday?

Something aint right with that.

Lumiere_Blanche wrote:

cesc's poor performance = Fellaini marking him out of the game

and On the basis of today's performance.
de gea > courtois
hazard = januzaj



So stop overhyping.

and agreed di maria had an awful game today by his standards.

All I'm gonna say is Gary Nev gave Courtois MoM.

Abramovich wrote:

Lumiere_Blanche wrote:

cesc's poor performance = Fellaini marking him out of the game

and On the basis of today's performance.
de gea > courtois
hazard = januzaj



So stop overhyping.

and agreed di maria had an awful game today by his standards.

All I'm gonna say is Gary Nev gave Courtois MoM.

G.Nev has a hard on for Cortouis for some reason and seems to dislike De Gea.

Giving Cortouis the MOTM was laughable...or perhaps complimentary to Utd. Either way, it was laughable. Fellaini was MOTM.

The amount of shit people talk about Chelsea players on this forum is beyond hilarious. For all of the wumming and hyperbole, I do for the LOL's I still admit when an opposing player has played well.

To claim Courtois MOTM award was "laughable" makes you the joke instead. He made about 4 World Class saves and completely dominated his box. How many times was a cross sent in yesterday and Courtois just gracefully plucked the ball out of the sky?

Unfortunately, Dowd cost him a clean sheet yesterday with that farcical sending off.

Every Chelsea player from Fabregas, Courtois & Hazard to Costa, Oscar and Azpilicueta is overrated according to GL. Only Matic seemingly gets his due credit and we all know why that is.

Fellaini MoTM?

Drogba, Courtois, Luis (Di Maria had to switch flanks in the 2nd half since it was such a one sided contest) and Hazard were clearly better. I thought Shaw & De Gea were your two best players. In the context of last season this was one of Fellaini's better games but clearly not a MoTM worthy performance.

The Franchise wrote:Courtois, Hazard, Fellaini, Januzaj vs Shaw, Smalling, Terry, Cahill


Same number of Belgians players as English playing yesterday?

Something aint right with that.

if Rooney wasn't suspended he would of been playing over Mata


and we brought James Wilson on for mata in the 2nd half, good young english lad


could of been more Spanish potentially then anything if Mata, Herrera, De Gea, Fabregas, Costa, Azpilicueta all played

Gil wrote:
To claim Courtois MOTM award was "laughable" makes you the joke instead. He made about 4 World Class saves and completely dominated his box.

4 world class saves ?? really ???

He made 2 genuinely good saves both of van persie and then another one just before the goal; of fellaini, but that again was headed straight at him. Still credit where its due, agreed it was a good save.
But apart from that, whatttt?

where as de gea single handedly kept us in the game by saving a 1 on 1 vs your guy hazard. also he saved 1 from drogba in the 1st half. de gea's saves were slightly better. Ask any neutral ffs. A 51-49 to ddg.

Gil wrote:
How many times was a cross sent in yesterday and Courtois just gracefully plucked the ball out of the sky?

This on the other hand. Wasnt he supposed to do that all day long. Plucking balls from air like its nothing. ffs the kid's a giant. He is 1.99 m as opposed to de gea's 1.91. Even if he just stands there in the box rooted he can simply catch crosses without any problem . You are giving credit to him for that. Come on man, stop kidding.

Gil wrote: For all of the wumming and hyperbole, I do for the LOL's I still admit when an opposing player has played well.


Fellaini MoTM?

Drogba, Courtois, Luis (Di Maria had to switch flanks in the 2nd half since it was such a one sided contest) and Hazard were clearly better. I thought Shaw & De Gea were your two best players. In the context of last season this was one of Fellaini's better games but clearly not a MoTM worthy performance.

Brilliant!
You are contradicting what you yourself is saying. To say it was just a better performance from fellaini compared to last is a big big LOL mate. Seriously.
Fellaini
1. took your most influential player until now, a player who is leading the assist chart, who is basically slicing up defenses like its nothing, completely out of the game. Man marking to perfection.
2. Went back and forth effectively, bombarded your backline whenever we were attacking, and went back whenever we were defending.
3. Won the battle with matic almost every time when he attempted.
4. Linked up play excellently standing between the trio of blind, januzaj and di maria and sent balls to either flanks to help in offense.
Fellaini was the MOTM. Clear as a day. Why only you arent seeing that; its astonishing.

Gil wrote:
The amount of shit people talk about Chelsea players on this forum is beyond hilarious.
Every Chelsea player from Fabregas, Courtois & Hazard to Costa, Oscar and Azpilicueta is overrated according to GL. Only Matic seemingly gets his due credit and we all know why that is.

Nobody is talking shit about anybody. You know that. If you can hyperbole players for fun then what do you expect in return.

Gil, those are standard saves from a top class keeper. The 2 'saves' he made that stood out were 1) the save when he rushed out to close down the space and block Rvp's shot was impressive due to the speed in which he left the goal line and reacted, but again nothing mind blowing- a standard block from a good keeper.

2) The save he made from fellaini's point blank header. A good reflex save from a ball that came directly at him. Would have been more impressive had he quickly reacted and saved RVP's follow up shot.

Everything else was standard stuff that we know from Cortouis. That he commands his box well and that he is great at collecting aerial balls.

The save De Gea made from the Hazard shot was the best of the night. A low drive going at speed in the corner of the net, the way he got down quickly and parried it away to safety was world class. 2 seasons ago, he would have parried that to Hazard for him to knock it in the back of the net.

And Fellaini deserved MOTM simply because, for all the stick he has been getting, he completely nullified your co-best player this season. I actually had to check the team sheets after to know whether Cesc actually played. And not only that, he was involved in many of the good things we did in that game, most vital being the goal we scored.

Lumiere_Blanche wrote:

Gil wrote:
To claim Courtois MOTM award was "laughable" makes you the joke instead. He made about 4 World Class saves and completely dominated his box.

4 world class saves ?? really ???

He made 2 genuinely good saves both of van persie and then another one just before the goal; of fellaini, but that again was headed straight at him. Still credit where its due, agreed it was a good save.
But apart from that, whatttt?

where as de gea single handedly kept us in the game by saving a 1 on 1 vs your guy hazard. also he saved 1 from drogba in the 1st half. de gea's saves were slightly better. Ask any neutral ffs. A 51-49 to ddg.

Gil wrote:
How many times was a cross sent in yesterday and Courtois just gracefully plucked the ball out of the sky?

This on the other hand. Wasnt he supposed to do that all day long. Plucking balls from air like its nothing. ffs the kid's a giant. He is 1.99 m as opposed to de gea's 1.91. Even if he just stands there in the box rooted he can simply catch crosses without any problem . You are giving credit to him for that. Come on man, stop kidding.

Gil wrote: For all of the wumming and hyperbole, I do for the LOL's I still admit when an opposing player has played well.


Fellaini MoTM?

Drogba, Courtois, Luis (Di Maria had to switch flanks in the 2nd half since it was such a one sided contest) and Hazard were clearly better. I thought Shaw & De Gea were your two best players. In the context of last season this was one of Fellaini's better games but clearly not a MoTM worthy performance.

Brilliant!
You are contradicting what you yourself is saying. To say it was just a better performance from fellaini compared to last is a big big LOL mate. Seriously.
Fellaini
1. took your most influential player until now, a player who is leading the assist chart, who is basically slicing up defenses like its nothing, completely out of the game. Man marking to perfection.
2. Went back and forth effectively, bombarded your backline whenever we were attacking, and went back whenever we were defending.
3. Won the battle with matic almost every time when he attempted.
4. Linked up play excellently standing between the trio of blind, januzaj and di maria and sent balls to either flanks to help in offense.
Fellaini was the MOTM. Clear as a day. Why only you arent seeing that; its astonishing.

Gil wrote:
The amount of shit people talk about Chelsea players on this forum is beyond hilarious.
Every Chelsea player from Fabregas, Courtois & Hazard to Costa, Oscar and Azpilicueta is overrated according to GL. Only Matic seemingly gets his due credit and we all know why that is.

Nobody is talking shit about anybody. You know that. If you can hyperbole players for fun then what do you expect in return.

You are so bias, can't be arsed.

Of course you can give credit for command of the area. Just because someone is tall doesn't automatically mean they are commanding, you need a lot more than just height.

Everyone knows DDG is a brilliant shot stopper, probably the best in the league but that's not the be all and end all of a GK.

rewatched the game now.

Have to say this has to be a very lucky point for Utd on the whole.

Can't understand how people can claim Utd 'dominated' the first half. Was fairly even, but with Chelsea 6:0 corners and the best chance for Drogba.
And a double 100% penalty not given, which is quite ridiculous.
Utd had more shots maybe in the first half, but all harmless except for the van Persie throughball. Even that one wasn't that great of a chance, difficult angle, Courtois enough time to come out and spoil the shot.

2nd half was all Chelsea, except for a few minutes before Mikel got subbed on when Utd had some momentum.
Utd pressed for an equalizer last 10m without being dangerous at all, it's no wonder too Chelsea would tire a bit since they had a game in midweek after all. That's why Mourinho was right to shut shop.

Hilarious that Neville claimed beforehand Utd were targeting a weak spot with di Maria vs Filipe Luis, di Maria had a bad game at RW as people on here aptly called, but Luis had also Jumanji in his pocket in the second half.

But what really is completely ridiculous is the MOTM for Courtois.
Makes no sense whatsoever, except to flatter Utd.
A complete joke tbh.

Because in the 2nd half Utd didn't actually have a shot on target until the 75th minute or so, and even then only one where RvP was in a very narrow angle, and another very tame long range one from di Maria. Up to the goal of course.
Courtois sure was very good, but he actually did not have to make one save out of the ordinary all game, De Gea had the harder ones, against Drogba especially.

MOTM should have been Hazard or Matic.

All in all Chelsea was the better team, had the better chances, should have had a penalty and got undone by a gifted last minute freekick and a sending off due to a dive.

Lucky United. Not completely undeserved, but still very lucky.